Around the League '15-'16: New Years Edition

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I'm sorry but this is just shameful:

http://nypost.com/2016/01/13/female-hockey-player-plans-to-sue-nhl-following-spinal-injury/

It's unfortunate that this happened but take responsibility for the risks and decisions you make. An accident happen and that doesn't mean it's someones fault.

It was an accident but welcome to the way insurance works. Her insurance is likely the one prompting this. They want to try and mitigate as much liability as they can. And the way to do it is to sue anyone else that can hold any liability in the case.
 
I think when it comes to defensemen evaluations you have to consider their contexts, too. I think you can throw quality of competition out for all the minute eaters since they're not getting hidden, but deployment is important to look at. Karlsson, Klingberg, OEL for example--straight offensive time. NO/little PK, TONS of PP time--Ek will sit for 4 minutes at a time to be fresh on the other side of a PK for offense. I think voters and pundits around the league don't pay attention to the idea that it's impressive that guys like Suter, Doughty, Josi/Weber play massive PK minutes in addition to 5v5 and PP too. Obviously you want to play to the offensive talents, but that inflates their numbers compared to the deployment of the all-around defensive studs.

In addition, GA, GF, things like that--they're nice comparative tools but it's important to look at in relation to their team too. the reason EK is shocking to me is that he's mid/bottom tier on his team in terms of GF%--that is, the percentage of goals for versus goals against scored when he's on the ice. He's scoring lots, but he's BLEEDING goals, even compared to all his teammates. That's bad. Doughty, meanwhile, is the 2nd d-man on the Kings, 6th overall on the Kings, but only tenths of a percentage behind his usual partner McNabb. And actually, lots of the top D-men are in EK's area--like Weber, Josi, etc.--which you can say is because of big, tough minutes to an extent, so why is Doughty so good at that and =/-?

These are questions Norris voters don't typically ask. I'm genuinely surprised there's not a half-decent "defensive performance" formula yet because there are so many moving parts that it's difficult to evaluate these guys appropriately (publicly, anyway; I'm sure the individual teams have their own assessments).

I dunno, I'm a defenseman myself, so I always watch and wonder these things more than most.

:clap: Informative and persuasive post.
 
Glad you thought so, I was mostly just musing :D

I feel like a lot of voters and others have bought into this myth that Doughty is terrible offensively as a hyperbolic swing to Karlsson, too. Drew is on pace for 50 pts--which would have been good for 10th last year--and a +32, which is much more than any defenseman hit last year. That's with a CF% of 58.2, far and away the best of any Norris candidate (hedman is relatively close)--CA/60 of 44.3 does the same, and where other elite d-men sort of make up the gap is in generating CF/60. ANd that's before the eye test with breakouts, before the eye test with defensive play (how many oddman breaks has Doughty slaughtered this year?), and so on.

I just think we're going to see a repeat of last year in a way, and I'm not sure how right or wrong this is--but it will be impossible for voters to ignore Karlsson's point totals. EVERYONE will have him in or around the top-3. I think Doughty, if he falls short of 50 points, will be either 1-2 or drop to 5 or below on some charts because 'points.' I don't trust many of the PWHA to 'do their homework' on this one.

I'm sure towards the end of the year it would be fun to look at some of the 'defensive metrics' of candidates and try to paint a picture but it's such a pain in the arse because there are so many moving parts, vs. context of different teams, vs. eye test, vs. no metric for 'goals prevented.'
 
Bailey and the boys visiting Children's Hospital LA today:

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Does Quick dip 24x7? It always looks like he's got a wad of chew in every time he's photographed.
 
Bailey and the boys visiting Children's Hospital LA today:

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Does Quick dip 24x7? It always looks like he's got a wad of chew in every time he's photographed.

Is it just me or does kopi look like he's like 50 lbs heavier?
 
Everybody say 'cheese!" Except for you, Kopi. You can say "Cha-Ching!"

Nice photo, though. Nice to visit the children.
 
Bailey and the boys visiting Children's Hospital LA today:

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Does Quick dip 24x7? It always looks like he's got a wad of chew in every time he's photographed.

Brown and Martinez are the only ones not wearing hats.

already own Quick and Kopitar's hats...can't make out Toffoli/Carter/Doughty lids very well in this picture. Love Carter's hat, although it doesn't look like that Kings logo has "LA" on it. Also, Doughty wears ****ing Jays hats half the time, that dirty *******.

and yes, Quick looks like he's been dipping or drinking at all times when he's not on the ice as far as i can tell lol
 
Toffoli's is a generic Nike hat. Carter's is most likely a Rednex Rebellion hat. Can't think of Doughty's, but I've seen them before.

Quick either has a big fat wad of cancer tar or Bailey has wandering hands.
 
Just finished watching the third. Where's was the defense?! Karlsson was cheating but Ottawa overall is a hot mess.

RYAN LAMBERT, LEAD COLUMNIST, PUCK DADDY:
He's a generational player. And the statistics show he does a better job of suppressing shot attempts, shots on goal, scoring chances, high-quality chances, and goals when he's in his own zone than Doughty does.

JEN NEALE, EDITOR, PUCK DADDY:
Give Doughty the Norris already. John Klingberg is a remote second for the breakout year he’s having. I added Karlsson as is dictated by the CBA.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-awards--puck-daddy-s-picks-at-halfway-mark-of-2015-16-210523582.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
 
I'm sorry but this is just shameful:

http://nypost.com/2016/01/13/female-hockey-player-plans-to-sue-nhl-following-spinal-injury/

It's unfortunate that this happened but take responsibility for the risks and decisions you make. An accident happen and that doesn't mean it's someones fault.

It kind of puts a dark cloud over the entire leagues support for the family. From what I've read, the league was going to help her out, now with a lawsuit pending who knows what they'll do. I'm not exactly sure how she could sue when reports say she stepped on a stick and fell into the boards.
 

that article is a real good argument for why the voting for those damn awards should be waaaaaaaay more transparent

absolutely awful, i've seen better analysis on the main board here. if being a hockey writer at a major news outlet just involves taking a cursory glance at nhl.com's stats section and going to bed early in order to miss all west coast games then sign me the **** up, i can write a better article on my phone while taking a dump at work
 
Johansen is just a dumpster file. Takes an unsportsmanlike penalty (from a linesman, no less) late in the 3rd.
 
How many times will Lambert be allowed to state factual inaccuracies/lies flat out and still keep his job?

Literally none of that is right.

I have stated very obviously why I don't think Karlsson should win the Norris at this point but I won't begrudge someone their opinion if its sound and sane.

Now SUTER is a really good pick, sneakily doing his work though.
 
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