Around the League '15-'16--Is it Summer Yet? Edition

[cyclones22]

Forsberg lost his spleen after Game 7.

Yep, it was found in a pickle jar in Norstrom's hockey bag. Loved that guy when he was a King.

 

[YP44]

Forsberg lost his spleen after Game 7.

that is crazy

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The full deal surrounding the Kings and Predators in 1998 involved:

Marian Cisar (May 29, 1998)
Jan Vopat (June 26, 1998)
Kimmo Timonen (June 26, 1998)
Vitali Yachmenev (July 7, 1998)

FYI, the Kings' unprotected list from the 1998 expansion draft:
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/jun/23/sports/sp-62817

Ruslan Batyrshin, d; Doug Bodger, d; Philippe Boucher, d; Dan Bylsma, lw; Frederic Chabot, g; Russ Courtnall, rw; Ray Ferraro, c; Gary Galley, d; Craig Johnson, lw; Jere Karalahti, d; Nathan Lafayette, c; Jaroslav Modry, d; Sandy Moger, rw; Jeff Shevalier, lw; Martin Strebak, d; Jukka Tiilkainen, lw; Mark Visheau, d; Tomas Vlasak, c; Jan Vopat, d; Roman Vopat, c; Magnus Werblom, rw; Vitali Yachmenev, rw; Doug Zmolek, d.

The Kings sent a package of four players to Nashville so that they would ultimately take Freddie Chabot for the purposes that Herby already touched on, to protect the Kings from losing a goalie in the following year's expansion draft.

Some info from the LA Times...

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/jun/27/sports/sp-64172

Taking goalie Frederic Chabot from the Kings was a bit of a surprise, considering defenseman Garry Galley was on the unprotected list. But the Kings sent two prospects to the Predators earlier this month in exchange for Nashville selecting Chabot.

The Kings sweetened the deal by sending defenseman Jan Vopat and the rights to unsigned defenseman Kimmo Timonen to Nashville.

The other reasoning behind the trades orchestrated between the Kings and Nashville was so that Nashville would pass on the opportunity to select Jere Karalahti in the expansion draft. At that time, Karalahti was considered to be one of the best defensemen playing outside of the NHL.

Years later, the Kings would end up trading Karalahti to Nashville in exchange for Cliff Ronning.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Then i must be really confused then because i can't find anything with him signing a KHL contract and from everything I've read and researched the guy was being punished because he wants to come to the Kings....

Successfully offer sheeted by SKA for three years:

http://www.ska.ru/en/news/view/nikolai-prokhorkin-v-ska



Supposedly we balked on giving him up to EDM at the deadline too so that's one last 'no thank you' to a Kings' org who has seemingly tried over and over to get him here.

 

[kings11]

Successfully offer sheeted by SKA for three years:

http://www.ska.ru/en/news/view/nikolai-prokhorkin-v-ska



Supposedly we balked on giving him up to EDM at the deadline too so that's one last 'no thank you' to a Kings' org who has seemingly tried over and over to get him here.

I remember that post RJ but he hasn't signed, so I'm really wondering if theres more to this than we know....

 

[tsanuri]

The full deal surrounding the Kings and Predators in 1998 involved:

Marian Cisar (May 29, 1998)
Jan Vopat (June 26, 1998)
Kimmo Timonen (June 26, 1998)
Vitali Yachmenev (July 7, 1998)

FYI, the Kings' unprotected list from the 1998 expansion draft:
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/jun/23/sports/sp-62817

Ruslan Batyrshin, d; Doug Bodger, d; Philippe Boucher, d; Dan Bylsma, lw; Frederic Chabot, g; Russ Courtnall, rw; Ray Ferraro, c; Gary Galley, d; Craig Johnson, lw; Jere Karalahti, d; Nathan Lafayette, c; Jaroslav Modry, d; Sandy Moger, rw; Jeff Shevalier, lw; Martin Strebak, d; Jukka Tiilkainen, lw; Mark Visheau, d; Tomas Vlasak, c; Jan Vopat, d; Roman Vopat, c; Magnus Werblom, rw; Vitali Yachmenev, rw; Doug Zmolek, d.

The Kings sent a package of four players to Nashville so that they would ultimately take Freddie Chabot for the purposes that Herby already touched on, to protect the Kings from losing a goalie in the following year's expansion draft.

Some info from the LA Times...

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/jun/27/sports/sp-64172


The other reasoning behind the trades orchestrated between the Kings and Nashville was so that Nashville would pass on the opportunity to select Jere Karalahti in the expansion draft. At that time, Karalahti was considered to be one of the best defensemen playing outside of the NHL.

Years later, the Kings would end up trading Karalahti to Nashville in exchange for Cliff Ronning.

Karalahti was good with great potential too bad with his drug problem.

 

[deeshamrock]

Article with a chart of the NHL Teams draft picks using Icons to show the extras they picked up thru trades

http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-draft-2016-traded-nhl-draft-picks/2016/06/17/

Buffalo and the Leafs with 12 picks this year, Sabres have 4 in the 3rd round.
Leafs with 2 picks in rounds 1 thru 4.

But there will be some shifts and changes, I expect this week leading up to and on draft day there'll be picks moving.
Could be some going tomorrow when the Red Wings trade Datsyuk and one goes with him.

 

[Kingsfan1]

So is there any hope Prokhorkin comes over to Kings and is our Panarin ? Id love to see what the kid can do in the NHL being on the 3rd line too . However is his UFA status around the corner ? When do we lose his rights ?

 

[KopitarFAN]

Article with a chart of the NHL Teams draft picks using Icons to show the extras they picked up thru trades

http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-draft-2016-traded-nhl-draft-picks/2016/06/17/

Buffalo and the Leafs with 12 picks this year, Sabres have 4 in the 3rd round.
Leafs with 2 picks in rounds 1 thru 4.

But there will be some shifts and changes, I expect this week leading up to and on draft day there'll be picks moving.
Could be some going tomorrow when the Red Wings trade Datsyuk and one goes with him.

Hard to believe their are teams as bad off as the Kings in terms of draft picks, but their are.

 

[Omni Owl]

Yep, it was found in a pickle jar in Norstrom's hockey bag. Loved that guy when he was a King.

Yup, the D in 2001 was actually decent, with Phillipe Boucher, Aaron Miller, Schneider, Norstrom, Modry, and a young Karalahti. That's if I'm remembering correctly...

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Yup, the D in 2001 was actually decent, with Phillipe Boucher, Aaron Miller, Schneider, Norstrom, Modry, and a young Karalahti. That's if I'm remembering correctly...

Don't forget Lubo, he was an overage rookie but he was in the mix too.

They certainly did have great depth, until they let Boucher walk as a UFA, Karalahti preferred partying over hockey, and Schneider would wind up being trade bait in '03.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

So many people act like both uneven conferences and odd numbers are so rare. Every major sports league has done one or the other if not both for years at a time.

I think there will be another team but how long it will be I don't know. I think they want another team that would be in the west. So that means pac-central time zones.

Aesthetic reasons, nothing else. I mean, when setting the volume of the TV, don't you always want it to be at an even number or divisible by 5?

 

[Trolfoli]

Aesthetic reasons, nothing else. I mean, when setting the volume of the TV, don't you always want it to be at an even number or divisible by 5?

No, I only believe in Chaos!


When are they going to start a Vegas section on HF? I guess they won't know if the team is in the Pacific or Central. Pacific would make sense if they're going to sell the LA/LV/AZ rivalry.

What happens in the Vegas section, stays in the Vegas section.

 

[kingsboy11]

So is there any hope Prokhorkin comes over to Kings and is our Panarin ? Id love to see what the kid can do in the NHL being on the 3rd line too . However is his UFA status around the corner ? When do we lose his rights ?

He just signed a 2 year extension with Moscow. He's never coming here

 

[KopitarFAN]

Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 2m2 minutes ago
#Ducks have signed RFA D Sami Vatanen to a four-year extension, taking a major trade chip off the market.

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 12s12 seconds ago
$4.875M cap hit for Vatanen, with Lindholm next up to be signed. Gotta imagine Cam Fowler's name pops up a few times leading up to draft

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They also have to re-sign Lindholm to what will probably be a similar number (perhaps more term) and Rakell, doesn't leave much flexibility to upgrade with their internal cap.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 2m2 minutes ago
#Ducks have signed RFA D Sami Vatanen to a four-year extension, taking a major trade chip off the market.

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 12s12 seconds ago
$4.875M cap hit for Vatanen, with Lindholm next up to be signed. Gotta imagine Cam Fowler's name pops up a few times leading up to draft

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They also have to re-sign Lindholm to what will probably be a similar number (perhaps more term) and Rakell, doesn't leave much flexibility to upgrade with their internal cap.

Well, they'll probably get a top line forward for Fowler. Hall maybe. Then they still have Andersen as a trade chip.

 

[Martyros]

Well, they'll probably get a top line forward for Fowler. Hall maybe. Then they still have Andersen as a trade chip.

Hall? no. Eberly maybe, definitely not Hall.

 

[Johnny Utah]

My buddies met Karalahti at a hockey bar in the South Bay years back and bought him a shot. He then had the bartender line up a row of shots and partied all night with my friends until they had to help him up the steps because he was so drunk. Nice guy though...

 

[Omni Owl]

Ducks are going to lose Fowler or Lindholm, probably Fowler. That Bieksa contract is pretty awful, and Kesler's is only going to get worse. Stoner's is bad as well. They have some decent prospects that might come through next year though. Apparently they're looking for a decent LWer, which they could end up trading one of their young Dmen for. They should just sign Ladd or wait to see if Lucic re-signs here.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Well, they'll probably get a top line forward for Fowler. Hall maybe. Then they still have Andersen as a trade chip.

I meant something that makes them better, I suppose they could involve a goaltender to acquire draft picks or a LW (something that Murray has talked about wanting to do).

Eric Stephens ✔@icemancometh
Bob Murray says in a Facebook Live session that a priority is getting a left-shooting left wing. "High quality left winger if possible."

Eric Stephens ✔@icemancometh
Missed the first part of session but Murray also said he wants to get more draft picks. Essential to re-stock system.
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Really can't do both, as one would take from assets to do the other.

 

[Fishhead]

Hall? no. Eberly maybe, definitely not Hall.

Yea Hall would take Lindholm+.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Fowler is extremely overrated anyways

 

[Omni Owl]

Fowler is extremely overrated anyways

Guy reminds me of Jack Johnson a bit, a lot of hype when he was coming up, but has since stagnated. Fowler is arguably better than him though...

 

[Steve Zissou]

No shocker here... The Magic Man heading back to play in Russia.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Still can't forget Fowler ****ing up on keeping the puck in the zone when the Ducks really needed to get that goal.