Around the League 14: PLAY GLORIA!

[DougieSmash]

Terrible and disgusting contract. I like Hayes, he is pretty solid but not that good. On other hand, I like the offseason for Flyers so far. Hayes and two good RHD veterans.

 

[Brock Anton]

Matt Duchene and his agent are probably the two happiest people in hockey atm.

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

I think that for once the week of the draft and the first couple of days of free agency are going to be lit for once and I am here for it.

 

[Vagrant]

Matt Duchene and his agent are probably the two happiest people in hockey atm.

there's another way to look at these moves that might not create such a glowing outlook. not that duchene is going to make any less money because of this deal, but with every one of these massive contracts you see handed out it takes another team off the board to compete against. i have contended all offseason that there are going to be some players expecting raises that are going to be left holding the bag when the dust settles after this unprecedented splurging you're seeing on guys who most would qualify as top six not top line talent. the tier just below guys like hayes are going to get lowballed like crazy because there aren't going to be very many teams with the ability to offer them market value once everyone picks their favorite target to overspend on. the news about the salary cap not going up as much as expected is another factor that will influence the spending. this might be one of those years where some really decent players are going to be out of work until the middle of july waiting on a contract they dreamed up in june.

 

[Brock Anton]

there's another way to look at these moves that might not create such a glowing outlook. not that duchene is going to make any less money because of this deal, but with every one of these massive contracts you see handed out it takes another team off the board to compete against. i have contended all offseason that there are going to be some players expecting raises that are going to be left holding the bag when the dust settles after this unprecedented splurging you're seeing on guys who most would qualify as top six not top line talent. the tier just below guys like hayes are going to get lowballed like crazy because there aren't going to be very many teams with the ability to offer them market value once everyone picks their favorite target to overspend on. the news about the salary cap not going up as much as expected is another factor that will influence the spending. this might be one of those years where some really decent players are going to be out of work until the middle of july waiting on a contract they dreamed up in june.

I agree, in a way, this actually might help a team like us. Guys like Panik, Donskoi, Simmonds and hell, even Ferland might have to take far less than originally planned because of these teams spending ridiculous amounts on above average talent.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

Not for the lack of trying. It was hardly like he was intentionally avoiding trades. We were young and our only assets were prospects and youngin’s, which is all everyone wanted in trade. I never get that comment. Aside from his last two off seasons trades weren’t even on the table as we rebuilt, he tried the second to last one and no one was among moves, then in his last one he made a bunch of moves?

I never get the RF didn’t make trades comment. If there were trades to be made when it was time he obviously would’ve done it. And I don’t get why it had to be player for player. What’s the difference? Trades are there or they’re not. We were a rebuilding team and didn’t have extra players to make player for player moves. We needed our players...

Yup, not to mention the weird criticism of a lack of player for player trades. Are you shitty at your job if you don't trade your hours worked directly for food or items you want? Of course not, you currency as a medium to trade much more easily. And draft picks are the NHL's currency. You can use them to get a better fit than trying to force a player for player trade, just like you can use the money earned from your job to buy a couch easily, instead of hoping to find a guy that both has a spare couch and values what you do for a living.

It's nonsense

 

[SaskCanesFan]

In what world am I required to answer your question? And on top of that, what difference does it make? So, I'll tell you the luncheon was in December of 2017. That changes what? You know everything and nobody else knows anything. Your mind can't be changed. Why do I have to show you the receipts when they change nothing? I have *all* the receipts. I have four years of losing. What do you have, aside from being the only smart person in the room?

And your mind can be changed? Jesus Christ. It's not like the success this season had remotely anything to do with a GM taking an old, damaged roster, full of horrible contracts in the top 6 and failed prospects in the bottom 6, rebuilding from the ground up, adding a 70 point player for peanuts, getting out of the bad contracts to the point the worst left is a $4m goalie, signing the top D pair long term to under $10m combined. That super totally should have all been accomplished in 2 years instead of 4, because working under an owner that makes Melnyk look generous and fighting with real relocation concerns were great conditions for a quicker turnaround that Francis failed miserably to capitalize on somehow

 

[Wolfpuck]

I just saw the Hayes contract. There's no way that's real, right?

Of course it's real. It's free agency baby!

 

[Lempo]

I just saw the Hayes contract. There's no way that's real, right?

Of course it's real. It's free agency baby!

Free-for-all Agency.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Free-for-all Agency.

GMs be like

 

[Navin R Slavin]

And your mind can be changed? Jesus Christ. It's not like the success this season had remotely anything to do with a GM taking an old, damaged roster, full of horrible contracts in the top 6 and failed prospects in the bottom 6, rebuilding from the ground up, adding a 70 point player for peanuts, getting out of the bad contracts to the point the worst left is a $4m goalie, signing the top D pair long term to under $10m combined. That super totally should have all been accomplished in 2 years instead of 4, because working under an owner that makes Melnyk look generous and fighting with real relocation concerns were great conditions for a quicker turnaround that Francis failed miserably to capitalize on somehow

He's not here anymore. Move the f*** on.

 

[FreshSeabass]

 

[bleedgreen]

Well I mean.....he’s a righty. He’d help the pp probably. On a short term deal if Willy retires or leaves I suppose it’s on the table.

 

[NotOpie]

there's another way to look at these moves that might not create such a glowing outlook. not that duchene is going to make any less money because of this deal, but with every one of these massive contracts you see handed out it takes another team off the board to compete against. i have contended all offseason that there are going to be some players expecting raises that are going to be left holding the bag when the dust settles after this unprecedented splurging you're seeing on guys who most would qualify as top six not top line talent. the tier just below guys like hayes are going to get lowballed like crazy because there aren't going to be very many teams with the ability to offer them market value once everyone picks their favorite target to overspend on. the news about the salary cap not going up as much as expected is another factor that will influence the spending. this might be one of those years where some really decent players are going to be out of work until the middle of july waiting on a contract they dreamed up in june.

Vagrant, I'm right there with you. I believe this is the year to be patient with the UFA market. There's a fair bit of mid-level scoring talent out there and they are likely going to get squeezed....especially with the news the the salary cap is now likely to be less that $83 million. After the top 5 or so, there are going to be some deals and there are going to be bounce-back seasons. A guy like Brett Connolly is likely not getting the payday he thinks he deserves. Heck, even Dzingel might be surprised by what's left on the table for him.

We may be able to pick up a solid secondary scorer in UFA. But I still believe we'll see some sort of trade.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Well I mean.....he’s a righty. He’d help the pp probably. On a short term deal if Willy retires or leaves I suppose it’s on the table.

Perry's one of those guys I have zero interest in ever seeing don the sightless eye on grounds of being a garbage human being. His antics would have no place here.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Well I mean.....he’s a righty. He’d help the pp probably. On a short term deal if Willy retires or leaves I suppose it’s on the table.

Depending on who else we pick up in the offseason, I'd be ok giving him the Williams contract even if we give Williams the Williams contract as well.

To me that's a far more enticing "veteran who used to be good and could help the powerplay" than Jason Spezza.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Thats cool and all but you cant really have both. I understand not giving him a way but your not going to get anything that good for him.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Brock McGinn for JP?

 

[GoldiFox]

There was a rumor floating around somewhere of Saarela for Puljujarvi

 

[MinJaBen]

There was a rumor floating around somewhere of Saarela for Puljujarvi

Don’t think I’d do that...and I’m not sold on Saarela making the team, either.

 

[DougieSmash]

Oh, no, Poolparty again... Why we should waste anything for this kid when we have Gauthier, Geekie and Mattheos as RH shot in the system?

 

[bleedgreen]

Perry's one of those guys I have zero interest in ever seeing don the sightless eye on grounds of being a garbage human being. His antics would have no place here.

I’m not a fan of him either really, but that seems excessive.

 

[Lempo]

I’m not a fan of him either really, but that seems excessive.

That C on his chest doesn't stand for 'Corey'.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Oh, no, Poolparty again... Why we should waste anything for this kid when we have Gauthier, Geekie and Mattheos as RH shot in the system?

Because his ceiling is a lot higher than any of them.

I’m fine with not going after him but despite his struggles he’s still a better prospect than the 3 you mentioned as a pure scorer.

 

[bleedgreen]

That happens about ten times a game.