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EspenK

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Kev22 said:
I'm not sure about this, but I think the CBA allows for a fine as a percentage of a players salary. Lundqvist makes far more than Thornton, so that would make for a bigger fine.
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You're right. And I think there is also an absolute cap. I think 10k.
 
Double-Shift Lasse

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EspenK said:
You're right. And I think there is also an absolute cap. I think 10k.
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No way I'd pay 10K for one.

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Its 2 2nd rds for Gaborik now right? And a 3rd?

Well I didn't really like or understand the trade at the time. I had some hopes for Frattin and the 2nd round pick was decent. While I'd like to see Frattin get a full year here over guys like Tropp, Comeau and Umberger, I don't have much hope for him anymore. I'd rather have Skille on the team. Gaborik was never bad for us, and never really "didn't fit", he just played a different game. The type our team could have absolutely used against PIT and NY. Was much better than Horton in regards to pretty much everything. The more I see him play for the Kings I get more upset about the trade. The only way this isn't going to bother me for the next couple years is if we use these picks in a trade for another skilled guy this summer or next. I actually see this as a big possibility.
 
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Well after a long debate I guess I will root for the Rangers tonight. As much as I dislike the players on the Rangers, I dislike the fans of the Penguins even more and detest the rude and obnoxious behavior I had to experience all season from them. In addition, when the Rangers were here, their fans couldn't have been more polite and courteous. Anyways, let's go blueshirts!
 
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The Penguins board is mega entertaining to read. Lots of knowledgeable types, but more more importantly, almost all are jaded and cynical. I find them to be very humorous.

I think that I want the Penguins to beat the Rangers in game 7 tonight just so that I can get another two weeks of live season entertainment from their hfboard.:laugh:
 
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Another benefit of the Rangers winning is they would lose their #1 pick as part of the MSL trade.
 

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jackets4life said:
As much as I dislike the players on the Rangers, I dislike the fans of the Penguins even more and detest the rude and obnoxious behavior I had to experience all season from them.
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I'm torn between what Pens fans had to say about us in the playoffs and what NYR fans had to say about us during the Nash saga.
 
Bobcat110

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Tulipunaruusu said:
... Into your crystal ball?

Gaborik had just returned back into action just before trade deadline so there wasn't actually that much time to decide whether he would be a real key player for this team in what might not have been even a play-off struggle to begin with. For Los Angeles Kings he might be first-line winger alongside one of the top centreman's, Kopitar and another succesful first round pick but that doesn't translate to huge play-offs victories on this side of the fence when Blue Jackets still have to improve in many ways that ain't quickly fixed with "rentals" but brick by brick. By bricks that don't likely leave your house in the summer.

They made the play-offs which can still be counted as progress. This team wasn't special enough to take anything more from those games even if you add any ice hockey player in the world for the spot Gaborik manned for them. I'm sure that second and third round picks will eventually help more than Gaborik in a race towards Stanley Cup which hasn't even truly begun despite making the play-offs.

Gaborik might have also liked it here but I'm sure he would also like it in 29 other organizations too if they would come up with better offer thanks to his UFA availibity. Which they would have been likely to do in any case since it went how it went and you could have always ended up with nothing, not even the play-offs.

Safe thing was trade, you got something for the future. Which then might be as at least succesful as Gaborik to Kings deal for them (series victory over San Jose Sharks?) but you might get to see them on long-term like Bjorkstrand or Heatherington even if it ain't so exciting to see them play it out as it would be watching someone with superstar status.
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Tulipunaruusu said:
Yes, if you truly think that Blue Jackets challenging for Stanley Cup this season was anything but a false dream this year. In that case two draft picks for Gaborik (that Columbus couldn't likely been able to defend in free market competition if they somehow could have justified even offering something reasonable for him based on his play and role played) contribute more towards building, not buying or selling that vision of future shown in my crystal ball.

In my mind it is just honest truth that this team with or without Gaborik doesn't have for example Los Angeles Kings kind of arsenal in their use. There ain't (yet) star players of Kopitar or Dougthy class, Bobrovski still has some questions regarding his pressure control and the process for building that core has merely began. Coaching staff has come up with two strong seasons of almost overachieving which is a positive signal. Same can be said about fair chances given to younger players and the organization behind team.

If Richards and his staff can be that difference maker it might make the road shorter but if this was a great season... Nice team identity and all in place now but it just usually takes quality to win. Even in the optimal case it takes seasons to gather that.

The only team anywhere near that same level to make even Stanley Cup finals (not winning it) this decade is New Jersey Devils (and they boasted some offensive names in Kovaltshuk, Parise and Elias) and I guess that speaks little towards why the winners for that period are Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles and not Florida, Ottawa or Buffalo out of the teams that made play-offs.

Would Dallas Stars have became more succesful with Gaborik added on prior play-offs? We don't know but honestly I think we know.
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You do realize there's over 80% chance this 2nd round "brick" doesn't spend any significant time in the NHL? Less chance for a 3rd rounder? Even less chance that either will be a key brick (Top 6 Forward or Top 4 D-man) And, your whole argument is blown up based on the 2013 trade to acquire Gaborik? We traded 2 first round "Bricks" and Dorsett to get Gaborik. So we managed to parlay 2 first round "bricks" into an up-in-the-air 2nd rounder and a contingent 3rd.

The whole reason to play the regular season is to get to the playoffs, not accumulate late round draft picks. Complete losers' mentality to give away an all-star scorer for a 2nd round and contingent 3rd while well in a playoff hunt. I've owned season tickets since Day One and am personally tired of this team playing for the draft instead of the playoffs. I'm sure others, like Jarmo, don't feel the same urgency. It surprises me the value people place on draft picks. We've have what 8 guys on the current roster we've actually drafted?
 
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Robert

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Got to love it… I hope the Rangers go all the way, if one wants to know how to win in the NHL playoffs look no further than the great goaltender H. Lundqvist..
 
EdwardG

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OK, who wants to visit the Pens forums and congratulate them on a strong year? "Don't get down on yourselves. You have a great team. You'll be back one day."
 
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