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The NHL could make a real statement by issuing fines and suspensions ... but I sure hope they don't. This is as good as playoff hockey gets, and the league needs more of it.

Screw the yuppies and their European style hockey. We want intensity.

I agree, too. Save fines and suspensions for dirty hits that can/do cause injury.

I'm sensitive to the concussion issue- I just can't stand that these guys who are our heroes at times can wind up in such bad shape at such relatively young ages. It's a real shame. So I'm all for being aggressive with enforcing restrictions on dirty hits.

But an intense scrappy game is something different.

Just wanted to throw that out there after getting too riled up with the Abdelkader hit discussion on the mains...
 

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The NHL could make a real statement by issuing fines and suspensions ... but I sure hope they don't. This is as good as playoff hockey gets, and the league needs more of it.

Screw the yuppies and their European style hockey. We want intensity.

Intensity. Great. Chippiness? Awesome. Cheap-ass BS? No thanks. Lots of it in that Habs-Sens game yesterday, and there has been too much of it in these playoffs. Not enough to mar the postseason, just too much for my liking.

I don't know what you're about with "yuppies" and "Europeans". Been watching Coach's Corner?
 

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Intensity. Great. Chippiness? Awesome. Cheap-ass BS? No thanks. Lots of it in that Habs-Sens game yesterday, and there has been too much of it in these playoffs. Not enough to mar the postseason, just too much for my liking.

I don't know what you're about with "yuppies" and "Europeans". Been watching Coach's Corner?

Tend to agree. Asshattery is over the line. Not suspension worthy, but teams need to be put on notice. This could get way out of hand if they don't watch out.
 

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First home playoff game in TO since 2004 tonight. Despitre the oft-deserved rep of some TML fans, that is going to be one hell of an atmosphere. Will be interesting to see if the team is up to the moment.
 
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First home playoff game in TO since 2004 tonight. Despitre the oft-deserved rep of some TML fans, that is going to be one hell of an atmosphere. Will be interesting to see if the team is up to the moment.

Looks like a great crowd in Toronto, although I'd expect there are still lots of rich pseudo-fans who just show up for part of a game and socialize as part of an extended night of partying and hopping about town. Toronto is always stuck with those people.

Don Cherry just said that the St. Louis - LA series is more physical than any series he's ever seen. Those are two mammoth teams going at it.
 

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Intensity. Great. Chippiness? Awesome. Cheap-ass BS? No thanks. Lots of it in that Habs-Sens game yesterday, and there has been too much of it in these playoffs. Not enough to mar the postseason, just too much for my liking.

I don't know what you're about with "yuppies" and "Europeans". Been watching Coach's Corner?

:laugh: You caught me!

One thing I'll mention: The best playoff series I have ever seen have been series where hardly any penalties have been called, but were played so hard and physical, that by the end of it, both teams were virtually out of gas. While I'll agree that there was plenty of cheap/dirty stuff in that game, it's not often that I can wake up and see any NHL article on the front page of various news sources. As dangerous and cheap as it is, the publicity for the game can't hurt.

As for the European stuff, it's something that is making it's way up from junior hockey and will eventually find it's way into the pro game by default. An example would be the little "stop" signs on the backs of the jerseys, and suspensions for fighting. What's funny is that, I see more instances of guys taking cheap shots now than I ever have. I'm a believer that fighting certainly has it's place in the game ... had Ryan White not engaged Jared Cowen after his two-hander last night, do you think he would have had someone head hunting him later? Quite possible...
 

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Milbury called out Nash at the 2nd intermission. Said he's playing on the perimeter, not wanting contact with anybody, not going to dirty areas.

I don't disagree.
 

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Milbury called out Nash at the 2nd intermission. Said he's playing on the perimeter, not wanting contact with anybody, not going to dirty areas.

I don't disagree.

Sounds all too familiar. Someone needs to rack him in the nuts to get him going.
 

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brassard putting on a show. 1g 2a. 3-2 lead for the rangers. I know its real early, but this looks like a horrible trade
 

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brassard putting on a show. 1g 2a. 3-2 lead for the rangers. I know its real early, but this looks like a horrible trade

I never liked the trade, but remember what many of us said about Brass before the trade. We said he'll blossom with a new start elsewhere, but he won't do it here. It's a bit of a shame, but his big production post-trade is no loss to us.
 

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I never liked the trade, but remember what many of us said about Brass before the trade. We said he'll blossom with a new start elsewhere, but he won't do it here. It's a bit of a shame, but his big production post-trade is no loss to us.

You're absolutely right. I'll add that we may have lost this trade, but we still won the Nash trade big.
 

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You're absolutely right. I'll add that we may have lost this trade, but we still won the Nash trade big.

Uhh. It's a fair deal. Playoffs aside, Nash has been nothing but everything the Rangers wanted. Justl ike Dubi, Arty, and Timmy here. Fair deal.
 

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How can anyone be upset with either the Nash trade or the Gaborik trade?

Nash is a great player, but with him on the team, the team wasn't doing anything. The players we got in return have helped this team establish itself with an identity - something it never had in the past.

On the contrary, the Gaborik trade was born out of necessity above all else. It helped the team continue an incredible streak that left us finished tied for the last playoff spot in the league - something nobody would have dreamed up in February, or even early March. Yes, we had to pay to get him here - but what's important is that we retained all three of our first round picks in getting a guy with 40 goal skill. Brassard will never be anything more than a second line center ... and here, he wasn't even giving us enough of that. He needed a change of scenery bad - and sending him to New York was as big a help to him as it was to us. Same goes for John Moore, who was likely to be lost in the mix of young defensemen in the system, already surpassed by Tim Erixon, and made expendable by the solid defense of Dalton Prout, as well as upcoming Ryan Murray. The last piece, Derek Dorsett, is a third line wing at best ... while I'll miss his effort and determination, his production is easily replaceable, and we have a handful of other guys who do the same thing, only more effective.

I can't complain about either trade, with full honesty. Essentially, we part with Nash, a couple of mid round picks, Brassard, Dorsett, and Moore ... and come away with Dubinsky, Gaborik, Anisimov, Erixon, and a first. When you look at it that way, I think we upgraded on every player except for maybe Rick Nash ... and that's only because he brings more tangibles than Marian Gaborik.
 

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And then, as long as Detroit gets KO'd by Chicago in the next round ... who then loses to whoever they come up against ... who, in the end, loses to whoever comes out of the East.

All would be right with the world.

Oh the dream scenarios.
 
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