Armchair GMs: What moves would you make to maximize the roster?

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Electric Eric

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You guys realize that you have to go back to 2011 to find a better 5 game start of the season right? 2013, 2014, 2015 after the first five games our record was 3-2. In 2012 we won the five games then lost 6 in a row.

Y'all need to breathe and stop looking for reasons to freak out. It's embarrassing.
 

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Yes they count. But chill out man. The team that won 62 games was 5-4-2 at the end of the first month. They need to play better but the sky isn't falling

I seriously doubt that they will set a record for wins.
 

Retire91

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I really don't see this team missing the playoffs. Eastern conference is still mostly a trash can.

The wings moving to the East is really the only reason the streak is still alive. Could people take their fingers off the panic button a bit lol.
 

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And they don't have to. Did his point really sail that far above your head?

Has their abysmal play eluded you? Its gonna have to get a lot better before I learn to like it.
 

DanZ

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Has their abysmal play eluded you? Its gonna have to get a lot better before I learn to like it.

No it has not. But I am not going to overreact based on a 5 game sample size when a brand new coach is implementing a brand new system with a team that has had the same system for 10 years. Not to mention all the new players added to the team (Larkin, Green, Richards, Pulkkinen) and the players that were injured to start the year and are still getting into game shape (DeKeyser, Helm) or haven't returned at all (Datsyuk).

People need to stop overreacting. This stuff doesn't happen over night. I will start worrying more around the 20 game mark if their play hasn't started looking better.

Do you think Anaheim is going to average 1 goal per game as well?
 

TheMule93

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Do you think Anaheim is going to average 1 goal per game as well?

Of course not.

I don't think they're getting outshot 2-1 on a regular basis though. They also probably aren't struggling to get 20 shots a game either.
 

DanZ

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Of course not.

I don't think they're getting outshot 2-1 on a regular basis though. They also probably aren't struggling to get 20 shots a game either.

No, but very little if anything at all has changed from last season to this season for them.
 

Lil Sebastian Cossa

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I am 100% sure you know this: This team is not the 96 team.

I am 100% sure you know that wasn't my point.

A five game stretch, at the start of the season with a new coach and a couple key players out, is not indicative of anything. You need to have patience with the roster.
 

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No it has not. But I am not going to overreact based on a 5 game sample size when a brand new coach is implementing a brand new system with a team that has had the same system for 10 years. Not to mention all the new players added to the team (Larkin, Green, Richards, Pulkkinen) and the players that were injured to start the year and are still getting into game shape (DeKeyser, Helm) or haven't returned at all (Datsyuk).

People need to stop overreacting. This stuff doesn't happen over night. I will start worrying more around the 20 game mark if their play hasn't started looking better.

Do you think Anaheim is going to average 1 goal per game as well?

Why is it that a lottery team like Carolina is able to play structured hockey and the Wings haven't? They are starting a new season as well. They have new players as well. Yet they can role the disorganized Redwings. Montreal seems to be able to play structured disciplined hockey. Why is it that the Wings can't seem to do so thus far? Should we continue to discuss how awesome they are going to be or how awesome they haven't been?
 

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Anaheim is 1-3-1. Sometimes a slump is just a slump. A new coach or system isn't going to turn the Wings into the worst possession team in the league. Especially after five games.

If the Wings are a .500 team by the time Datsyuk returns, i would consider that a good start to the season. Did people seriously expect this team to look amazing while Datsyuk was out?
 

Lil Sebastian Cossa

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Why is it that a lottery team like Carolina is able to play structured hockey and the Wings haven't? They are starting a new season as well. They have new players as well. Yet they can role the disorganized Redwings. Montreal seems to be able to play structured disciplined hockey. Why is it that the Wings can't seem to do so thus far?

Because it is five games in and the Wings have played two back to backs already.

Seriously, step back from the ledge. I've seen that you hate Blashill and want him gone already, but it is simply not fair to look at 5 games and draw definitive conclusions like you are.

And if you're really honest about it, Carolina wasn't playing any kind of great strategic hockey. They had guys with better legs than the Wings did and guys more willing to go after the puck on those nights.

Like Dan is saying, wait until the 20-ish game mark at least before you go nuts. Any team can lay a five game dud and not have it be representative of anything (hence my mentioning the 62 win Wings being ~.500 at the end of the first month. They were one of the best teams in history and even they lost as much as they won for that first month.)
 

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Because it is five games in and the Wings have played two back to backs already.

Seriously, step back from the ledge. I've seen that you hate Blashill and want him gone already, but it is simply not fair to look at 5 games and draw definitive conclusions like you are.

And if you're really honest about it, Carolina wasn't playing any kind of great strategic hockey. They had guys with better legs than the Wings did and guys more willing to go after the puck on those nights.

Like Dan is saying, wait until the 20-ish game mark at least before you go nuts. Any team can lay a five game dud and not have it be representative of anything (hence my mentioning the 62 win Wings being ~.500 at the end of the first month. They were one of the best teams in history and even they lost as much as they won for that first month.)

And if this five game stretch is going to be considered a "slump," that's a slump that's on pace for 96 points this year. Granted, that doesn't make the playoffs last season,but that's far from awful.
 

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Because it is five games in and the Wings have played two back to backs already.

Seriously, step back from the ledge. I've seen that you hate Blashill and want him gone already, but it is simply not fair to look at 5 games and draw definitive conclusions like you are.

And if you're really honest about it, Carolina wasn't playing any kind of great strategic hockey. They had guys with better legs than the Wings did and guys more willing to go after the puck on those nights.

Like Dan is saying, wait until the 20-ish game mark at least before you go nuts. Any team can lay a five game dud and not have it be representative of anything (hence my mentioning the 62 win Wings being ~.500 at the end of the first month. They were one of the best teams in history and even they lost as much as they won for that first month.)
I am not suggesting the season is over. I am suggesting that they need to be better. I guess where our difference lies is I don't really have much confidence in Blashill. That will change when and if he does something to inspire confidence. I don't want him gone. It is too late for that. I didn't want him hired in the first place. I fully expect he will be here for 2 seasons.

And if this five game stretch is going to be considered a "slump," that's a slump that's on pace for 96 points this year. Granted, that doesn't make the playoffs last season,but that's far from awful.
Missing the playoffs is by definition "awful". I would consider missing the playoffs with this roster an epic failure.
 

Winger98

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Missing the playoffs is by definition "awful". I would consider missing the playoffs with this roster an epic failure.

they weren't far from missing last year. Truth is, they are a bubble team, along with the majority of the conference and missing the playoffs isn't a way of defining the season.
 

DanZ

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I am not suggesting the season is over. I am suggesting that they need to be better. I guess where our difference lies is I don't really have much confidence in Blashill. That will change when and if he does something to inspire confidence. I don't want him gone. It is too late for that. I didn't want him hired in the first place. I fully expect he will be here for 2 seasons.

Who is suggesting otherwise?

So you'll be confident in Blashill when the team starts playing awesome? How bold of you. It really seems like you've already determined that he's a bad coach and you won't change your mind until he proves that he is a good coach. Why not just reserve your judgement until he's actually had time to show something either way? That would seem like the rational thing to do. You lost your confidence in Blashill before you even saw him coach a single game.
Missing the playoffs is by definition "awful". I would consider missing the playoffs with this roster an epic failure.

It is not awful for a slump, which is what he said. If your worst stretch of the year has you above .500 than you are a good team. Did you not read what he wrote?
 

TheMule93

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It is not awful for a slump, which is what he said. If your worst stretch of the year has you above .500 than you are a good team. Did you not read what he wrote?

If the team continues to play like this, we will be well below .500. We already should be, tbh. Mrazek bailed us out of the first Carolina game.
 
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