This is like claiming that your promotion of Korpi was the "vast majority" simply because it was loud and persistent. Korpi being "barely NHL level" was never a majority opinion, or even that of a significant minority. Folks had preferences, and usually it was Elvis over Korpi, but that kins of hyperbole was never a commonplace rationale - mostly because it is and always was pure bullshit.
And this conspiracy theory nonsense doesn't suit.
Good point. I will add, though, that, per reporting on the incident, Kivi traveled to the gathering at Legace's home with Elvis and his family, and that Korpi was not in attendance. So while I don't dispute the notion that Kivi's passing must have affected anyone and everyone on the team and in the organization, it's also understandable that Elvis bore a particularly heavy burden.
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I mean we've all had people important to us die in our lifetimes. How many times have any of us actually witnessed it happen?Good point. I will add, though, that, per reporting on the incident, Kivi traveled to the gathering at Legace's home with Elvis and his family, and that Korpi was not in attendance. So while I don't dispute the notion that Kivi's passing must have affected anyone and everyone on the team and in the organization, it's also understandable that Elvis bore a particularly heavy burden.
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Whether any of this is an excuse or explanation is for whomever to decide. Whether the fact that Legace was also there, and witnessed the incident and shared that particular trauma with Elvis, has anything to do with their professional relationship, is also for whomever to decide.
What’s “conspiracy theory”!?!!?
on a long enough timeline there is no such thing as 'the right type' – these things aren't static. torts was the right type until he wasn't. larsen had a good first year (relative to expectations) and then year 2 was a disaster.
Torts was the right type of coach until he wasn't. When the team started going with the youth movement he himself decided he wasn't the right fit and wanted to leave. That is on him for refusing to adapt to younger players.
people forget just how good elvis was when he first came into the league
I agree with this.
I am not seeing where Legace was being steamrolled. If Elvis wasn't listening, that's on him, the other goalies seemed to be ok. I don't think there was any similarity to Larsen. Lars was doomed when he took the job. He took to much blame for last year.
Lars wasn’t blamed for the injury riddled season but the lack of preparation and handling the players. He tried to be too much of a friend.
yes, other guys played with him. but he lived with elvis and was going to be the godfather of elvis's first kid. not unfair to say they had a closer bond than most.
I don't know how you'd feel if a firecracker ripped open your friend's stomach in front of you. Everyone has different character some people can overcome it, others can't.
I appreciate you replying and I agree with most of it, but asking Bus for proof that posters on here (who he's talking about) were claiming he was the second coming of Hasek and that he would rack up Veniza wins. This isn't the first time I've asked him for this proof, he's yet to provide any (I suspect none exist)
NHL coaches don't last as long with a team, as the other majors sports do. It's rare, but not uncommon to see coaches last 15 to 20 years in the other big leagues, almost unheard of in the NHL. Cooper Is the longest tenured coach in the NHL currently and he just passed a decade. Torts may have just wanted to move on. Yes he went to another rebuilding project, but sometimes building something new is easier than seeing something you built fall apart and having to build from scratch there again. As for why they hired Larsen, who knows. But the names hired in that same off-season don't fill me with much confidence either.
Neither of us were there. My personal feelings are that a boss/employee relationship gets pretty tricky when he people are BFFs like Elvis and Manny were.
I could see that, but Legace was just his coach, not his employer. He has no say on Elvis' employment with Columbus. I am sure there are a lot of coaches throughout sports where coaches and players are close, or related.
So, basically, you're castigating this message board based on unsupported assertions (that you are unwilling to attempt to support) about the opinions of damn near everybody here.
The idea you have advanced before that the whole reason Tortorella and Jones left was because of the presence of players you don't like.
That there are others who may have experienced the same trauma as Elvis but make less money and are not in the public eye means nothing to Elvis’ performance on the ice.
