Proposal: Arizona offersheet Kucherov

[LordNeverLose]

Tampa would match and then simply move someone (Filp? Bishop? Lots of options)

Also, I would be stunned if Chayka, who is trying to break into the old boys country clud of NHL GMs, decides to alienate himself in his first off-season by offer-sheeting one of Steve Y's best players.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Not a fan of offer sheets but they are entertaining. Cant see a team offering over 9.3 million. That's insane money.

If I were to do this it would be 7.5 aav for 5 years. Comp is a 1st 2nd and 3rd. Does Tampa match? It will be very hard for them to match that.

Before doing this though I would try to work out a trade with Tampa. Have leverage with an offersheet, pay a little more than the compensation, and not look like a Dbag to the league.

Its divided by 5 years not 7 to get the right offer sheet compensation.

so 7,5 aav for 7 years= 52,5/5= 10,5 aav so 4 1st rounders if im not wrong.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Offer Tampa a trade of picks.
If declined.

1 year 8.5 million

 

[Sojourn]

Offer Tampa a trade of picks.
If declined.

1 year 8.5 million

You do realize that you'd be forced to qualify him at $8.5m when that contract is up, right? If you don't, he becomes a UFA, and walks.

Edit: That's assuming he signs it at all. People forget that players need to actually sign those contracts. Long-term security is nice for a player. You aren't offering him that.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Yzerman will match any offer sheet on Kucherov, And he will move Bishop and most likely Filppula before training camp. No reason for Yzerman not to match an offer sheet for one of his best players.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Offer Tampa a trade of picks.
If declined.

1 year 8.5 million

Any team that offers Kucherov this deal has to qualify him for that much at the end of the deal or he becomes a UFA so this makes absolutely no sense.

 

[jw2]

If a player signs with another team, let them go.

 

[tdfxman]

Yzerman will match any offer sheet on Kucherov, And he will move Bishop and most likely Filppula before training camp. No reason for Yzerman not to match an offer sheet for one of his best players.

I agree with the above.

Wow after signing Namstikov TB has peanuts left under the cap, and they still have to sign Kucherov! Something has got to give. My best guess? He has some kind of deal with Dallas that if he can sign Kucherov to a cap hit that only requires him to move Bishop, he will give them Bishop for a few hamburgers. Then Dallas would have to find a home for one of their other two highly paid goalies. Otherwise, I don’t see how this works, which was why I was surprised that they resigned Stamkos. Without him they could have afforded everyone. With him, someone has to go. Then hold onto your hats because Palat and Johnson and Drouin all need to get paid this time next year, and no way the cap will go up enough to absorb all of their raises. Welcome to our (hawks)world, Yzerman!

 

[bluetuned]

I agree with the above.

Wow after signing Namstikov TB has peanuts left under the cap, and they still have to sign Kucherov! Something has got to give. My best guess? He has some kind of deal with Dallas that if he can sign Kucherov to a cap hit that only requires him to move Bishop, he will give them Bishop for a few hamburgers. Then Dallas would have to find a home for one of their other two highly paid goalies. Otherwise, I don’t see how this works, which was why I was surprised that they resigned Stamkos. Without him they could have afforded everyone. With him, someone has to go. Then hold onto your hats because Palat and Johnson and Drouin all need to get paid this time next year, and no way the cap will go up enough to absorb all of their raises. Welcome to our (hawks)world, Yzerman!

I wouldn't exactly call their cap space peanuts. They've got 6.5M and need to sign Kucherov and Nesterov. I'd guess Kucherov will try for 7M. Nesterov won't take much. Moving Bishop would do it, but they're much more likely to try and find a taker for Fillpula than they are to move Bishop, unless the Stars offer a very enticing deal. Bishop increases Tampa's Stanley Cup chances enough that it'll take significant offer for them to want to move him. They'll exhaust all of their other options before trading Bishop.

 

[Xander Sanders]

Help me understand offersheet...

If a player accepts the offersheet, is it a done deal right away? Or does the team he was a part of have a certain amount of time to make roster moves to free up space? If so, how long does a team have to match the offersheet?

 

[hockeykicker]

Help me understand offersheet...

If a player accepts the offersheet, is it a done deal right away? Or does the team he was a part of have a certain amount of time to make roster moves to free up space? If so, how long does a team have to match the offersheet?

team has i think a week to match it? forgot how long they have to match

 

[BatVader]

team has i think a week to match it? forgot how long they have to match

1 week is correct.

 

[gorangers0525]

Great player, but I'd be quite surprised if Arizona was willing to make a sub-six foot, left-shot winger their highest paid player. They're chock full of these in the system with Domi, Duclair, Rieder, Keller, and Merkley. Obviously none are as good as Kucherov but it's still a darn good batch of players with similar styles and characteristics. Teams don't generally choose to define themselves by their bunches and bunches of sub-six foot, finesse wingers.

I'd hope they'd care more about how good their players are, than how tall their players are

 

[PaulGG]

Pretty sure Kuch likes it in Tampa where we win and are in the running again for the cup. Doubt he would go to a bottom team for a few extra bucks.

 

[Shootertooter]

Tampa would match and then simply move someone (Filp? Bishop? Lots of options)

Also, I would be stunned if Chayka, who is trying to break into the old boys country clud of NHL GMs, decides to alienate himself in his first off-season by offer-sheeting one of Steve Y's best players.

Exactly.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Any team that offers Kucherov this deal has to qualify him for that much at the end of the deal or he becomes a UFA so this makes absolutely no sense.

After the deal I offer 8.5 x 8

 

[dechire]

After the deal I offer 8.5 x 8

And he could refuse that and just sign the 8.5 QO every year until he reaches UFA where he'd get a bigger payday on his choice of teams. Not that it's especially likely but I'd say the likelihood of that happening is about equal with the likelihood of Tampa not matching an OS.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

And he could refuse that and just sign the 8.5 QO every year until he reaches UFA where he'd get a bigger payday on his choice of teams. Not that it's especially likely but I'd say the likelihood of that happening is about equal with the likelihood of Tampa not matching an OS.

I don't see him signing that but ye he could demand the QO And get the fa raise.
I don't see him signing it because security. But damn not a huge fan of giving up 4 1sts

 

[dechire]

I don't see him signing that but ye he could demand the QO And get the fa raise.
I don't see him signing it because security. But damn not a huge fan of giving up 4 1sts

Also Tampa could easily match any OS for 1 year simply by moving Bishop. There's a few contract structures that would be pretty difficult for Tampa to match(but still possible) but anything they couldn't match would cost 4 1sts which might be an okay tradeoff depending on how bad the other team is for the next few years

 

[CupsOverCash]

Not happening. We will give them Filppula though.

 

[TOGuy14]

5 years at $7.5m would be worth trying.

http://www.generalfanager.com/draftpicks/offersheets

I think giving him a 4 year contract would be more damaging.

Have to think TBL would like a shorter bridge, or a long term 6-8 year deal. A 4 year deal would put him at UFA right in his prime and the team in an uncomfortable position in a few years.

 

[DFC]

I think we match anything under 8m. He's actually worth that. Best forward on the team, bar none. Anything over 8 and it gets really uncomfortable. I think something like 8.5 might pry him away.

 

[Clamshells]

After the deal I offer 8.5 x 8

Why wouldn't you start the offer sheet with 8.5 x 5 then? Same compensation, and you get 1 guaranteed UFA year.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Why wouldn't you start the offer sheet with 8.5 x 5 then? Same compensation, and you get 1 guaranteed UFA year.

Because I want him for more then 5 years

 

[DarthProbert]

I think AZ would be better off offer sheeting Trouba, Lindholm, or Ristolainen. You know, someone who fills a need for them.