Sportsnet: Arizona have received an offer matching their asking price for Jakob Chychrun.

[jackjohnson]

Broberg+Yamamoto+1st

Canucks can easily outbid you by giving Boeser>>>Yamamoto, Rathbone>>Broberg and 1st=your 1st

 

[monix11]

Hey, Panthers fans. Would you send Ekblad to the Coyotes for Soderstrom, Hayton and a 2023 1st?

Didn't think so.

You're not getting Chychrun without it stinging a little bit

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

Chychrun will end up in one of three cities: New Jersey, Columbus or Ottawa

Cap space, need, assets, imo those are the 3 most suited to bid on JC

 

[jaric1862]

Laine, Roslovic and a first lol.

 

[ViD]

Laine, Roslovic and a first lol.

And Keller going to Columbus as well right ?

 

[jackjohnson]

Chychrun’s term (3.5 years) is enough to make him attractive to middling teams looking to get better.

This is EXACTLY what JR needs to target. Chychurun matches Canucks core age group plus has terms. So would be a trade for long term as he would eventually replace Myers.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Ryan Strome, Julien Gauthier and a 1st amirite

Honestly, Ryan Strome shouldn't be the butt of jokes, he's a good player even when Panarin is out. An incredibly frustrating player but a good player nonetheless.

 

[Dan Kelly]

Canucks can easily outbid you by giving Boeser>>>Yamamoto, **Rathbone>>Broberg** and 1st=your 1st

How do you figure Rathbone is so much better than Broberg?

 

[jackjohnson]

How do you figure Rathbone is so much better than Broberg?

Rathbone is better because he has shown good potential playing some NHL games UNDER Green who sucks at coaching while no one knows how Broberg will play at NHL level. I bet Rathbone under Bruce will blossom into a great offensive dman.

 

[AcerComputer]

Hey, Panthers fans. Would you send Ekblad to the Coyotes for Soderstrom, Hayton and a 2023 1st?

Didn't think so.

You're not getting Chychrun without it stinging a little bit

I take it and run!

 

[Captain Controversy]

Rathbone is better because he has shown good potential playing some NHL games UNDER Green who sucks at coaching while no one knows how Broberg will play at NHL level. I bet Rathbone under Bruce will blossom into a great offensive dman.

Rathbone will be good.
Broberg is going to be great.
It's not a comparison.

 

[jackjohnson]

Rathbone will be good.
Broberg is going to be great.
It's not a comparison.

I dont know, we have to see what happens with Broberg once in the NHL and actually playing. I mean Juolevi was a bust so you just dont know. Aside from that, Boeser is a lot better than Yamamoto who is light and weak, and is struggling. Boeser would have way higher value which makea the Canucks package more attractive. The Oilers could offer Poolparty instead of Yams to make their package look better.

 

[bsu]

Pls Ducks

 

[BB88]

Panthers fans:

what’s your reasonable package looking like? Absolutely Lundell shouldn’t be included unless it’s straight up but just wonder what you think makes sense

They absolutely shouldn’t do it even if it’s straight up

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

If Lundell was off the table, I feel like we would know by now. I believe it’s been said previously by marek/Friedman that the coyotes wanted byfield/McTavish but kings and ducks said no. The fact that it hasn’t come out that Lundell is off the table suggests he may be included.

I do not think the panthers will include him, and I think due to that he’ll get traded elsewhere

 

[Masch78]

Jacob Larsson + Sam Steel + 1st 22

Thanks

 

[SnowblindNYR]

You guys must be new to this. Guys like Lundell are usually asked for but rarely included.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Good chance that Guenthers ceiling is a 60-70 point winger which Garland already is. But there is also a good chance the Guenther doesnt hit that ceiling. Guenther is also 3-5 years away from becoming that so its just accelerating a prospects development.

Draft picks are valued too highly around here. I wouldnt have choosen Guenther at 9 either based on our needs but thats another story.

How can someone with a career high of 39 points be a proven 60-70 point player?

Guenther probably should have gone higher in the draft than 9th

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

He's FLA's number 1 PKer, leads the team in D zone faceoffs, plays 3rd line minutes with 3rd line caliber linemates, turned 20 two weeks before the season started, and is pacing for 53 points with no PP time. His performance this year and the last few outside of the NHL has suggested nothing less than a 1C lock. Not necessarily a superstar top 10 center but a clear 1C nonetheless.

He's also on an ELC for the next 2.5 seasons. It makes no sense for FLA to give up an impact piece now. He's an integral part to what makes FLA's forward depth the best in the league.

For as good as Chychrun is, he would be the 3rd best defenseman on the Panthers.

Lundell (and Knight) would extend the Panthers cup window by 5 or more years. Since Knight isn't an impact player yet we could get over the loss but losing Lundell would be a disaster and really mean the Panthers are all in this year and next.

Im not arguing Lundell's impact on the team, I am saying you are probably pumping him up too much. You also say Chychrun would be your 3rd best defenseman but isn't Lundell currently your 3rd (arguably 5th if you include Reinhart and Huberdeau) best center? Also there is absolutely nothing wrong with having 3 elite defensemen, look at Nashville a few years back. Ekholm was the clear 3rd best defenseman on the team and he was widely considered a top 30 dman in the league.

I am not saying Florida should trade Lundell I just think you potentially placing him on a pedestal a bit too high, his numbers may be more of a factor of the teams success.

 

[Necrobutcher]

Two out of Knight, Denisenko & Tippett and a 1st?

 

[BB88]

Im not arguing Lundell's impact on the team, I am saying you are probably pumping him up too much. You also say Chychrun would be your 3rd best defenseman but isn't Lundell currently your 3rd (arguably 5th if you include Reinhart and Huberdeau) best center? Also there is absolutely nothing wrong with having 3 elite defensemen, look at Nashville a few years back. Ekholm was the clear 3rd best defenseman on the team and he was widely considered a top 30 dman in the league.

I am not saying Florida should trade Lundell I just think you potentially placing him on a pedestal a bit too high, his numbers may be more of a factor of the teams success.

How?
What numbers exactly?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

How?
What numbers exactly?

I mean he's 9th in team scoring and 8th in p/60. Lundell was widely considered to be NHL ready as soon as last year but also the most developed as in he was already nearing his ceiling. "True 1C" just seems like quite a high standard for a guy that's only played 37 games. I don't doubt he will be a good NHLer but lets ease on the brake a bit here with these predictions

 

[Altimus]

Chychrun will end up in one of three cities: New Jersey, Columbus or Ottawa

Cap space, need, assets, imo those are the 3 most suited to bid on JC

Ottawa has no need for a 1LHD. We got Chabot and Sanderson coming in next season.

 

[kingsfan28]

So you’re saying that the Kings have offered;
Tobias Bjornfot
Gabriel Vilardi
2022 1st rounder

Rasmus Kupari instead.
The Kings have invested way too much money to get Valardi back at playing hockey to trade him now.

 

[BB88]

I mean he's 9th in team scoring and 8th in p/60. Lundell was widely considered to be NHL ready as soon as last year but also the most developed as in he was already nearing his ceiling. "True 1C" just seems like quite a high standard for a guy that's only played 37 games. I don't doubt he will be a good NHLer but lets ease on the brake a bit here with these predictions

He’s not a lock for 1C but his ceiling should absolutely seen as 1C.

He’s already an elite 3C getting better each game and one of his big values to Florida is what his game does to Barkov.
Florida trades Lundell and they’ll end up feeding all the heavy assignments to Barkov instead Barkov-Lundell