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UglyPuckling said:
This thread is funny. The OP asks for a trade value measured in terms of draft pick. Someone says 3rd (likely in the right ball park), and the Hab fans get all pissy. What did they expect: 1st rounder and solid prospect? LOL.
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To be fair, op asked for a young forward. Very few if any offered a name. It was mostly future 3rd round pick.
Yes they expect 1st+ and they hope not to get it.
 
Voight said:
Habs fans think every one of their players is worth a 1st at minimum.
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You are confusing market value vs price for MTL to consider a trade.

Habs fan a well within their right to ask for a 1st. He's a special player with unique skills, some of which have been lacking to this team for YEARS. So make sense that they want to make sure they get something valuable in return

That said, other team also have the right to have reservation on where this guy can fit on their team, what is his real potential...

Bottom line here is that there is no deal to be made on that player for now, unless MTL price is met. a 1st is too much? fine, move along....
 
Voight said:
It's a good thing you aren't an NHL GM then.
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Oh yeah, show me the success level of a late first rounder and how often that turns out to be a regular NHL player let alone a top 4 D man that can play a heavy physical game. Thats what Wifi projects to be. Reading your post history this take doesnt surprise me at all.

UglyPuckling said:
This thread is funny. The OP asks for a trade value measured in terms of draft pick. Someone says 3rd (likely in the right ball park), and the Hab fans get all pissy. What did they expect: 1st rounder and solid prospect? LOL.
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If you think a 3rd is right in the ballpark for Xhekaj go get a new hobby hockey isnt for you.

I am not a habs fan far from it, as a fanbase they overrate most of their players and prospects. This isnt one of those situations. I think its very interesting its all leaf fans here chiming in. Like this player isnt exactly what your team needs. Do any of you understand big D mens development curve at all?
 
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Superlative Soup said:
Are you new here? Any Hab starts with a 1st.

Dvorak, Matheson, Xhekaj, Monahan, Anderson, Montebeault. No exceptions!
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While your generalization of the teams fanbase on here is accurate. There is one obvious outlier here, ones 22 years old and not on the decline. Thats the issue with HF in general too many blanket statements.
 
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Drive425 said:
No comparable so...I guess pass it on the left side?



What is the motivation to trade him then? It's a moronic move and waste of an asset.
Exactly the kind of thinking which has the habs in a 3 decade tailspin.
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I never suggested trading him. Though, it's a thread asking what his value is - so the answer is very little.
 
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Drive425 said:
No comparable so...I guess pass it on the left side?



What is the motivation to trade him then? It's a moronic move and waste of an asset.
Exactly the kind of thinking which has the habs in a 3 decade tailspin.
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The comparable are literally any teams 6D. Pump the breaks. I like the guy and think he can develop but somebody needs to offer something for their to be value
 
The most shocking thing out of this entire 19 page thread (so far) is that people still believe that Habs fans are the only fanbase to rate their players so high when it's every single fanbase that does so.
 
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Drive425 said:
I really detest these kinds of threads especially when the player is obviously worth more to the team than on the market.
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Unfortunately this time its friendly fire. OP is starving for goals and asked who he could get because extra bodies on d. Not that crazy but he got pretty much nothing.
Turned into prospect bloating.
 
I think AX's value is at it's lowest point right now so it wouldn't make any sense to move him at this time or even inquire about his value. If and when he is called back up and is again playing solid minutes as a young player with upside, this discussion can be revisited.
 
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cc said:
I think AX's value is at it's lowest point right now so it wouldn't make any sense to move him at this time or even inquire about his value. If and when he is called back up and is again playing solid minutes as a young player with upside, this discussion can be revisited.
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True ! And Hugues does buy low & sell high !
 
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bert said:
While your generalization of the teams fanbase on here is accurate. There is one obvious outlier here, ones 22 years old and not on the decline. Thats the issue with HF in general too many blanket statements.
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but for most organization he wouldn't be a nhl player right now. an undrafted prospect playing in the ahl hardly ever returns a first even if you factor in size and grit.
 
Well...turns out that the coach didn't like a penalty he took so they sent him to Laval to work on his defensive game

In Laval he has a few points and NO penalties. He now skates past any rough stuff. It could be he's still protecting his shoulder or more likely playing the coaches game.

You had a bull, one of the biggest, toughest bull but you want him to be an ordinary milking cow. BRILLIANT coaching. NOT.

Sometimes there are points in a young career that can change everything. Hope this one is for the better...or not.

As for the thread, lots of noise but few discussable offers.
 
bert said:
Oh yeah, show me the success level of a late first rounder and how often that turns out to be a regular NHL player let alone a top 4 D man that can play a heavy physical game. Thats what Wifi projects to be. Reading your post history this take doesnt surprise me at all.


If you think a 3rd is right in the ballpark for Xhekaj go get a new hobby hockey isnt for you.

I am not a habs fan far from it, as a fanbase they overrate most of their players and prospects. This isnt one of those situations. I think its very interesting its all leaf fans here chiming in. Like this player isnt exactly what your team needs. Do any of you understand big D mens development curve at all?
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This thread is unusual and has gotten a little aggressive with Senator fans arguing with fellow Senator fans about a Montreal player. LOL. I'm not arguing against Xhehaj's potential but Montreal would be doing pretty good with a 1st as a return for an un-drafted player. I don't think there's any GMs amongst the posters in here so maybe a more relaxed discussion would be in order.
 
bert said:
Oh yeah, show me the success level of a late first rounder and how often that turns out to be a regular NHL player let alone a top 4 D man that can play a heavy physical game. Thats what Wifi projects to be. Reading your post history this take doesnt surprise me at all.


If you think a 3rd is right in the ballpark for Xhekaj go get a new hobby hockey isnt for you.

I am not a habs fan far from it, as a fanbase they overrate most of their players and prospects. This isnt one of those situations. I think its very interesting its all leaf fans here chiming in. Like this player isnt exactly what your team needs. Do any of you understand big D mens development curve at all?
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Did you just say he’s projected to be a Top 4 dman? The man’s retrieval skills are atrocious. When he does get to the puck, his decisions are even worse. He lacks transition skills too. He literally has no attributes that say he would EVER “carry a pairing” in the NHL.

He’s a project still. Nothing more. Gustav Lindstrom is playing over him right now. You cannot be a Top 4 dman in the NHL with far below average retrieval and transition skills.

Teams have their own “projects” in-house. Nobody is paying a high price for the man. Not today. If he evolves, then obviously so will his value to other teams, but as it currently stands, he’s not worth much.. at all.

There’s not a manager in this league who’d make such a move. There’s a reason he’s playing in the AHL. He needs to massively clean up his game. He literally needs to develop skills, just to be a consistent NHL role player, an NHL team can trust every night.

Look, he’s a great story, but reality has set in. He still needs a ton of work…
 
JRichard said:
To be fair, op asked for a young forward. Very few if any offered a name. It was mostly future 3rd round pick.
Yes they expect 1st+ and they hope not to get it.
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Absolutely no way Xhekaj is getting traded for less than a first. He's a unicorn who is young, big, already one of the best fighters in the league, mobile, good shot, feisty, with a good work ethic and room to grow. They'll just keep him if they don't get that.
 
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Guess said:
Absolutely no way Xhekaj is getting traded for less than a first. He's a unicorn who is young, big, already one of the best fighters in the league, with a good work ethic and room to grow. They'll just keep him if they don't get that.
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OP didnt ask for a pick, he asked for a young forward. You can fight all you want about a 1st, 2nd, 3rd i couldnt care less. He wants a young forward.

Seems to me a young forward might be a true need…

Or maybe make him play lw because ld is crowded with better players + Lane Makar coming soon. They could try that in Laval.
 
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JRichard said:
OP didnt ask for a pick, he asked for a young forward. You can fight all you want about a 1st, 2nd, 3rd i couldnt care less. He wants a young forward.

Seems to me a young forward might be a true need…

Or maybe make him play lw because ld is crowded with better players + Lane Makar coming soon. They could try that in Laval.
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Oh, my bad. Yes, a top 6 forward is what the Habs need. And trying Xhekaj at forward is also a good idea, it worked for Buff.
 
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bert said:
While your generalization of the teams fanbase on here is accurate. There is one obvious outlier here, ones 22 years old and not on the decline. Thats the issue with HF in general too many blanket statements.
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He'll be 23 next month and I would say being sent to the AHL is a decline
 
Easily worth more to the Habs than what we could get for him.
He's not for sale.
 
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