Value of: Arber Xhekaj value in a trade

[CTHabsfan]

Rather than a thread asking for Arber Xhekaj's value in a trade, there should have been a thread asking what your team would be willing to trade for Xhekaj (no Canadiens fans responses) and a follow-up thread asking Canadiens fans which, if any, of the proposals would be acceptable (no non-Canadiens fans responses). A third-round pick may be fair value for Xhekaj, but the Canadiens have no reason to trade him for that little.

He barely plays a regular shift WHEN he plays. Comparing him to 2008 Lucic is a joke. Some of these Habs fans are just wild.

2007-08 Lucic averaged 12:08 on the ice, not exactly top-6 minutes.

 

[Hookslide]

That's one hell of an overpayment.

Absolute overpayment........

 

[TS Quint]

Curious as how you define the metrics of barely playing a regular shift.

TOI

 

[Tbaybruin]

What's the scoop on Zboril? He looked good his draft year then bang. Injuries or something?

Tools but no tool box Bust

What is the protection? Top 2, 3, 10?

Top 10

 

[HabsAddict]

Well, maybe its because the OP asked for his value in a draft trade?

Its a rather odd and pointless question to begin with, and especially so because the OP @HabsAddict already has his mind made up and is using this thread like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination.

This is an undrafted 22 y.o. player with only 68 NHL games who is presently in the AHL, and we're to think a third-round pick is ridiculously low.

Its entertaining, if nothing else.

Just for Laughs?

That comes from Montreal too, doesn't it?

Sorry that i didn't meet your posting standards. I won't try harder.

Regards

 

[HabsAddict]

Rather than a thread asking for Arber Xhekaj's value in a trade, there should have been a thread asking what your team would be willing to trade for Xhekaj (no Canadiens fans responses) and a follow-up thread asking Canadiens fans which, if any, of the proposals would be acceptable (no non-Canadiens fans responses). A third-round pick may be fair value for Xhekaj, but the Canadiens have no reason to trade him for that little.


2007-08 Lucic averaged 12:08 on the ice, not exactly top-6 minutes.

However you post it the results would be the same. And BTW it is in two parts.

What do you value him at.

What would you part in a trade.

The nature of the beast is that there will always be posters who want to stir the pot or genuinly have a low opinion. And of course those who want to debate the content.

It is what it is...

 

[Wayfarer13]

TOI

Without nuance and context?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Without nuance and context?

What’s the nuance and context for 8th toi?

 

[Habs10025]

If Montreal wanted to trade Xkekaj they could but would the return be better than what they have in Xhekaj doubtful K. Hughes has no reason to trade Xhekaj and likely won't .

 

[dirtydanglez]

pretty good chance the kid will be on waivers in a few years.

 

[Wayfarer13]

What’s the nuance and context for 8th toi?

And all you have is toi with no context or nuance

 

[Golden_Jet]

And all you have is toi with no context or nuance

So you got nothing then, got it.
Ok 8th in toi, so maybe being sheltered, how’s that for nuance and context.

Give you a second chance, what’s your nuance and context, since you side-stepped question the first time.

 

[doomscroll]

And all you have is toi with no context or nuance

Okay here’s some context - Xhekaj has averaged just over 15 minutes per game over his career, 91% of which has been at 5v5. He has spent 19 minutes on the penalty kill in 68 games (6 goals against), and 57 minutes on the power-play (7 goals for, 3 against). 57.12% of faceoffs Xhekaj has been on the ice for have been in the offensive zone, as have 59.02% of all starts overall. Penalty minutes amount to 14.4% of his career TOI.

 

[Wayfarer13]

So you got nothing then, got it.
Ok 8th in toi, so maybe being sheltered, how’s that for nuance and context.

Give you a second chance, what’s your nuance and context, since you side-stepped question the first time.

Are you going to play ahead of Ghule or Matheson?Kinda hard to pound on the minutes sitting in the box after rag dolling people like Reeves.

 

[ole ole]

Pretty simple.
Wifi is more valuable to us than what we could get for him.

 

[Wayfarer13]

Okay here’s some context - Xhekaj has averaged just over 15 minutes per game over his career, 91% of which has been at 5v5. He has spent 19 minutes on the penalty kill in 68 games (6 goals against), and 57 minutes on the power-play (7 goals for, 3 against). 57.12% of faceoffs Xhekaj has been on the ice for have been in the offensive zone, as have 59.02% of all starts overall. Penalty minutes amount to 14.4% of his career TOI.

Second year pro.Best to compare him with peer cadre on those numbers.He is about where he should be at this point.Lots of of upside .

 

[TS Quint]

Without nuance and context?

You mean excuses and fabricated narrative? Knock yourself out.

 

[JRichard]

Pretty amazing: 13 pages in a couple of days on a player in AHL.

And it wont stop after tonight’s lame Pezzetta fight going for a fight with 3 mins left in a lost cause. what is this guy doing in the NHL is beyond me.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Are you going to play ahead of Ghule or Matheson?Kinda hard to pound on the minutes sitting in the box after rag dulling people like Reeves.

Triple down on side stepping, lol.

 

[Ezpz]

Pretty amazing: 13 pages in a couple of days on a player in AHL.

And it wont stop after tonight’s lame Pezzetta fight going for a fight with 3 mins left in a lost cause. what is this guy doing in the NHL is beyond me.

Pezz is a good 13th forward. Pezz worked his way up for six years when most of us thought he wouldn't get signed and was ranked one of our worst prospects several years running. He shouldn't be a regular but that's what happens when the NHL expands to 32 teams when there wasn't enough talent for 30 teams already.

 

[joestevens29]

Pretty simple.
Wifi is more valuable to us than what we could get for him.

Be different if you guys were in a situation where you wanted to add something for a playoff push, but I don't know why a retooling team would trade him for anything other than a massive overpay.

I also don't see a lot of contenders overpaying for a guy that isn't close to a finish project who's a bottom pairing guy. They sooner flip a lessor pick for a more veteran guy.

 

[Ezpz]

Triple down on side stepping, lol.

The context he is talking about is the top two in toi amongst all our D are Matheson and Guhle. Savard, Barron, kovacevic and lindstrom are natural RD and Harris has played RD all season. Look how much more evenly split ice time is amongst the RD, because we lack real top four options. Matheson and Guhle are our only real top four d and Xhekaj has played behind them all year exclusively as a LD.

Xhekaj also left several games early due to injury or game misconducts. The sample size of 17 games is easily skewed. He plays close to 17+ minutes a game when he's not in the box or injured. Games where we're heavily on the PP or the PK also limit his ice time as he's not heavily featured on special teams.

His main issue this year has been he's been taking dumb penalties. Because of last year he has a reputation with refs and his infractions are more commonly called. He hasn't adjusted his game yet.

Again, 17 games means one low ice time game skews it heavily, but there were seven or so games where he was heavily in the box, left the game early to injury, or the game was heavily referee'd.

 

[joestevens29]

Pretty amazing: 13 pages in a couple of days on a player in AHL.

And it wont stop after tonight’s lame Pezzetta fight going for a fight with 3 mins left in a lost cause. what is this guy doing in the NHL is beyond me.

Not really. He's on a Canadian team so that usually gets a lot of pages.

Plus he's quite an intriguing prospect with quite an interesting pathway to the NHL. Passed in two drafts only to get signed with the thought he'd play in the AHL last year, but ends up in the NHL. Pretty rare for any player let alone a d-man

 

[JRichard]

Not really. He's on a Canadian team so that usually gets a lot of pages.

Plus he's quite an intriguing prospect with quite an interesting pathway to the NHL. Passed in two drafts only to get signed with the thought he'd play in the AHL last year, but ends up in the NHL. Pretty rare for any player let alone a d-man

I’ll put in differently: Amazing to have 13 pages with 100% of Habs fans who came in to express support to OP about him being a special player unavailable for trade anyway and most non-Habs fans talking about a 3rd with a few extremists here and there.

hopefully OP doesnt do same with Guhle after the Byfield play.

 

[JRichard]

The context he is talking about is the top two in toi amongst all our D are Matheson and Guhle. Savard, Barron, kovacevic and lindstrom are natural RD and Harris has played RD all season. Look how much more evenly split ice time is amongst the RD, because we lack real top four options. Matheson and Guhle are our only real top four d and Xhekaj has played behind them all year exclusively as a LD.

Xhekaj also left several games early due to injury or game misconducts. The sample size of 17 games is easily skewed. He plays close to 17+ minutes a game when he's not in the box or injured. Games where we're heavily on the PP or the PK also limit his ice time as he's not heavily featured on special teams.

His main issue this year has been he's been taking dumb penalties. Because of last year he has a reputation with refs and his infractions are more commonly called. He hasn't adjusted his game yet.

Again, 17 games means one low ice time game skews it heavily, but there were seven or so games where he was heavily in the box, left the game early to injury, or the game was heavily referee'd.

Seemed weird so went in the stats.
17 games played, 5 times he topped 17 mins, 1 game penalized more than 10 minutes, 0 match penalty, 1 misconduct, 3 majors. Doesnt look like he is not playing more because he is always in the box…

As far as rd-ld thing, most teams have more lds and play some at rd because they are better than the rds they have. With Hutson also ld and more ld prospects on the way will Arber be out of the lineup? And now Struble.

If he is not on PP and or PK on this team well its on him or on the coaches.