Rumor: Apparent Culture/Chemistry issue in Canucks dressing room- Big changes coming this Summer. Lets hear your proposals/predictions

[EVDV]

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[kinghock]

Boeser being an RFA with gross qualifying offer at $7.5mm. Meh. His trade value is so low. Moving those negotiating rights will bring, at best, a modest return. Like a 2nd round pick or B level prospect.

Frees up cap space and a top six role but doesn’t do anything for the rebuilding of the roster.

To LA Kings. Negotiating rights to Boeser.
To Vancouver. Helge Grans + nothing else.

To LA Kings. Negotiating rights to Boeser.
To Vancouver. Iafallo + nothing else.

 

[bh53]

JT Miller- needed only by desperate contending team who do not care what is going to happen in 3 years. Trading value is difficult to estimate.

Horvat- first round pick

Garland- first round pick

Rathbone-2 round pick

Hoglander- 2/3 round pick

Myers- it will be difficult to find taker without incentives

OEL- nobody wants him

P.S. No in regard to Boeser to LA, period

Fair assessment for the other players but a 2nd/3rd round pick for Hoglander???

 

[kinghock]

Fair assessment for the other players but a 2nd/3rd round pick for Hoglander???

I believe his value is low now.

 

[Tact]

To LA Kings. Negotiating rights to Boeser.
To Vancouver. Iafallo + nothing else.

What you mean negotiating rights? He’s not a UFA where he can leave July 1st. He becomes LA property, so you’re actually acquiring the player.

 

[Rude Dog]

Culture often refers to off ice issues. Don't want young guys being influenced. Been around the game long enough to understand what is likely going on. Having said that, I am the first to admit I have no idea if that is what is happening in the Nuck room.

 

[Golden_Jet]

But they already traded Hamonic?

The last game Hamonic was interviewed on TV, just went on and on, how much fun he is having in Ottawa, how great the guys are. Seemed to be going out of his way, how much he was enjoying his time in Ottawa.

 

[YP44]

We're taking a CFL guy at his word about a hockey team?

i would agree but has there not been rumblings all year? If true speaks to how good of a job Bruce has done.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

If the Avs can find a way to swing a deal for Miller that would really fill the hole left by the inevitable Kadri departure. Also, Lehkonen-Miller-Nichushkin would be hilarious to watch together.

 

[Sting]

I thought we were all told Hamonic was the problem?

 

[UrbanImpact]

The last game Hamonic was interviewed on TV, just went on and on, how much fun he is having in Ottawa, how great the guys are. Seemed to be going out of his way, how much he was enjoying his time in Ottawa.

Dressing room in Van had a problem with him because he lied about his vaccination status.

He told the team he was or will be vaxxed by training camp.

Training camp came and he wasnt vaxxed and obviously didnt show up to training camp.

Then he finally got vaxxed around December but apparently he was a head case to deal with when it came to that stuff.

Van was especially sensitive with the vaccination because they got ravished with Covid more than any other team last season.

Reports out there is that covid issues is also why they traded Gaudette.

 

[VanJack]

Since the disastrous run of Benning and Green came to an end after 25 games or so, the Canucks have been playing at a .600 record and have one of best won-loss record in the league since the turn of the calendar year.

If this team supposedly has a 'culture problem' in the dressing-room it certainly isn't evident on the ice. For the most part the hockey media in Vancouver fall into two camps: the pom-pom waiving cheerleaders and the guys who try to 'break any news' and find fault with everything.

Besides I always thought Farhan Lalji was more of a 'football guy'.

 

[UrbanImpact]

This entire thread is a redux pre TDL. It's not going to end well, most of the rumors amounted to nothing pre TDL, and this will just end up being a pissing contest between fans.

Vancouver was never going to make major moves at the TDL.

The management team was still too new and was likely assessing. They also only had to really move Motte as he was the only UFA along with Halak.

They were also in a playoff hunt and i believe made the right choice by not moving any big pieces as they allowed the young core to experience a playoff push and play very meaningful and high pressure level games over the last few months.

Major roster surgery was always going to be done this off-season

-They are able to start negotiating with Miller and see what the number will actually look like and decide if they are moving him.

-Teams are able to move cap space easier in the off-season

- Vancouver wouldnt just be negotiating with playoff teams for trades.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Dressing room in Van had a problem with him because he lied about his vaccination status.

He told the team he was or will be vaxxed by training camp.

Training camp came and he wasnt vaxxed and obviously didnt show up to training camp.

Then he finally got vaxxed around December but apparently he was a head case to deal with when it came to that stuff.

Van was especially sensitive with the vaccination because they got ravished with Covid more than any other team last season.

Reports out there is that covid issues is also why they traded Gaudette.

I get he’d be an issue at beginning of year, for not getting a shot. I know they did get them in November or December.
Gaudette did seem pretty happy with getting shoutout winner. Both have been good teammates imo, Hamonic is playing well.

Obviously it is someone else or others causing a rift now. No idea who.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I get he’d be an issue at beginning of year, for not getting a shot. I know they did get them in November or December.
Gaudette did seem pretty happy with getting shoutout winner. Both have been good teammates imo, Hamonic is playing well.

Obviously it is someone else or others causing a rift now. No idea who.

Hamonic wasnt moved for on ice performance issues. He is still a decent 4-6 Dman imo

Gaudette was made easier to move because he never reached his potential and is looking like an AHL player. He or his wife then partied at Whistler and brought covid into the team this season and caused friction for that reason in the dressing room.

 

[UrbanImpact]

If the Avs can find a way to swing a deal for Miller that would really fill the hole left by the inevitable Kadri departure. Also, Lehkonen-Miller-Nichushkin would be hilarious to watch together.

Can definitely see the AVS go for Miller especially if they choke again in the playoffs.

Van can also retain which would essentially make Miller a 2.5 mil 90+ point player.

Return would be big but i think it would be very much worth it for Col who should be in all in mode now.

 

[My3Sons]

I think Miller is by far the most likely to be traded followed by one of Boeser or Garland.

Also the “culture problems” stuff is so exhausting. It’s getting to the point with the Vancouver media where I just have to assume they’re talking out of their ass. If you’re not going to get into specifics, then stfu. Because every time the culture issues are brought up the conversation is something like:

“There’s clearly culture issues, everyone knows that.”

“What are the culture issues?”

“I don’t know.”

“Is it Miller?”

“Not sure.”

This isn’t how rumours work. Nobody from the Canucks is leaking info to the media saying “just say theres ‘culture problems’ in the dressing room”. It makes no sense. If there’s nothing specific to point to, I’m not buying it. By all accounts everything has been extremely positive since BB got here. There’s WAY more evidence to support the theory that the culture is just fine than there is evidence to support the contrary.

I think they do know and they don't want to have their name attached to thowing specific players under the bus. Wasn't it reported earlier this season that Miller and Horvat clash? If Miller is the intense guy and Horvat the laid back guy it could be that simple based on the current report.

 

[RutherPlan]

Farhan Lalji is as clueless as they come for Canucks reporting.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Hamonic wasnt moved for on ice performance issues. He is still a decent 4-6 Dman imo

Gaudette was made easier to move because he never reached his potential and is looking like an AHL player. He or his wife then partied at Whistler and brought covid into the team this season and caused friction for that reason in the dressing room.

We’re trying to figure out the problem characters now, today.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Can definitely see the AVS go for Miller especially if they choke again in the playoffs.

Van can also retain which would essentially make Miller a 2.5 mil 90+ point player.

Return would be big but i think it would be very much worth it for Col who should be in all in mode now.

I could see them pushing for a Miller trade regardless of their playoff success. If they don't win the Cup, they still see this as their contention window and want to push for the Cup. If they win the Cup, they also realize they have a shortened window and want to go for a mini-dynasty. I do think Miller would fit well into a room with Makar and MacKinnon, both guys are intensely competitive.

 

[McJedi]

To LA Kings. Negotiating rights to Boeser.
To Vancouver. Iafallo + nothing else.

Why would LA do that? That’s a big fat L for them on the trade.

 

[Zippy316]

Devils likely in the market to mix things up offensively. Probably try to swap out Johnsson, Tatar, and/or Zacha for some forwards with size. Preferably interior forwards who can drive the net, work the boards, and free up some space our skilled forwards.

Pearson seems like an interesting target for the Devils, if he would be available.

 

[blankall]

Culture often refers to off ice issues. Don't want young guys being influenced. Been around the game long enough to understand what is likely going on. Having said that, I am the first to admit I have no idea if that is what is happening in the Nuck room.

I dunno. Culture could mean a lot of things. Could be infighting in the locker room. Could mean guys just not putting in enough effort. Could mean the coach thinks they have the wrong attitude.

 

[Love]

I could see them pushing for a Miller trade regardless of their playoff success. If they don't win the Cup, they still see this as their contention window and want to push for the Cup. If they win the Cup, they also realize they have a shortened window and want to go for a mini-dynasty. I do think Miller would fit well into a room with Makar and MacKinnon, both guys are intensely competitive.

I wonder what the Avs would give up though, especially since they just traded Barron who would’ve been an obvious piece. It feels like there’s a gap in the sense that Newhook and Byram are likely too valuable for the Avs to want to trade them for Miller but their other pieces (picks, prospects, and young players specifically) might not be valuable enough.

 

[TorontoTrades]

If playoffs don't go well for Toronto both teams might want to shake up major players.