Speculation: Any interest in Liljegren for a mid round pick?

[SirKillalot]

Petry for Liljegren. Maybe a small sweetener.
Both need a new set of fans to get harassed by and we need something to chat about on here.
Also Leafs save some cap and Red Wings get the younger player.
Change of scenery for both. And Petry got bigger chance of winning the....okay maybe not...but he will fit their playing style better.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

I’d like to see the Ducks offer a roster player like Vaakanainen, or Lunderstrom… both similar former 1st round picks in the same age range. We need another RHD.

I'd like a shot at Lundestrom, I think the hope he can turn into a 3C like Backlund, is the same as the hope of Lily turning into a top 4 D like Stralman. Leafs save a little cap as well, to bring someone off LTIR when ready.

 

[Vitto79]

3rd rounder to a team like Chicago

 

[TheDoldrums]

I like a lot of what Treliving has done lately but being complicit in tanking Liljegrens value like this is pretty poor asset management.

Liljegren played 19:40 last year. He had top 4 deployment for the majority of his games. On a good team. As a youngish RHD. At 5v5 he's at least slightly above-average at everything except physical play and has won his minutes with scoring chances and actual goals for his entire career. This is not someone they should be struggling to move if they wanted to but signing him to a multi-year deal before keeping him in the press box to start the year is a great way to tarnish the asset.

Obviously Berube does not like him as he wants a more physical player but then you move him in the offseason before signing him, or just sign him for 1 year and still move him before games start.

Sandin/Liljegren were viewed as similarly valuable when they were on the Leafs and Sandin got a 1st rounder...

 

[TS Quint]

He's just not good. He's a $3m player who has at least 3 defensemen on his own team who are better for less. Leafs fans can gaslight themselves about him being a top 4 defenseman all they want. The fact is he is objectively bad.

 

[kevsh]

Leafs fans can gaslight themselves about him being a top 4 defenseman all they want.

I think you'll find very few people anywhere, including Toronto, that seem him as a top 4 defensemen. In fact, in Torontoland the majority of fans are happy he's in the press box.

Lastly, I don't think you understand what "gaslighting" means. A very small minority of fans overestimate his value, sure, but that's not gaslighting themselves.

 

[TS Quint]

I think you'll find very few people anywhere, including Toronto, that seem him as a top 4 defensemen. In fact, in Torontoland the majority of fans are happy he's in the press box.

Lastly, I don't think you understand what "gaslighting" means. A very small minority of fans overestimate his value, sure, but that's not gaslighting themselves.

straight from the dictionary:classic gaslighting technique—telling victims that others are crazy and lying, and that the gaslighter is the only source for "true" information. It makes victims question their reality …

In this case Leafs fans and their constantly posted belief that Timmy has played really well in his top 4 stints. "Trust me bro, I watch him play".

Today you learned.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Yeah, most of these offers aren't close for me.

 

[iago]

oh, I wonder if a conditional trade works, say he plays less than 50 games its a 4th, 51-75 1 of the 3rds and if he plays 75-82 its a 2nd?
The way I see it is, if he is playing well enough to play 75+ games then even a 2nd round pick would feel like steal for you guys

Liljigren 50% retained for a bag of pucks and a spare tire for the Zamboni.