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Value of: Any bad contract with 3 years term or less to the Blackhawks.
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miscs75
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wintersej
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That's the wrong Aho, lol. Look you can play the McDavid game and go to the playoffs once in your first 4 years and then have to build around Bedard having a big contract or you can make some moves while Bedard is on ELC. I don’t think that specific deal made sense for either team, but I would argue that both EDM and TOR blew it not trying to make hay doing their guys ELC years.
You might recall that 19 and 88 were on their ELC when they first won.
ColbyChaos
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So you think it’s better to do what Edmonton did and try to force contention after 2015 and do short sighted moves like signing lucic, trading Barzal for a Dman that can play right away (and then be a massive bust), and have those problems prevent your team from making any deeper runs?
There’s a reason why Buffalo failed spectacularly after getting Eichel and why the Oilers have so many problems that will hold them back from winning a cup and what your advocating is for Chicago to go down the same path and try to force being competitive in order to not waste Bedards elc even though it pretty much wastes the rest of his career with those same dumb short sighted moves.
Trading Nazar Comesso and Greene for Swayman DeBrusk and Gryzlek is a terrible ass trade for Chicago lmao
wintersej
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Lol no I am not suggesting your GM make BAD moves.
I’m not really interested in that deal from a Boston perspective. Swayman was and is a better goalie prospect. Greene projects as more of a 3rd liner, which seems pretty similar to a 2nd pairing D man like Gryz. DeBrusk is a very good top 6 goal scorer. Maybe Nazar become a very good top 6er, maybe not. Chances are only one of those Chicago prospects actually ends up as good as his matching guy in the trade.
But nor do I think Chicago should be moving their closer to the NHL prospects. But I would be open to moving non-lottery picks for sure.
JaegerDice
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Im sure they’ll look to do that too, but Im not sure there are enough unaffordable good players to reach the cap floor next season.
All indications from the GM are that they expect to still be bad next season.
It takes an army, not a single 1OA pick, even an elite one. So they may as well leverage the cap space while they have it to get as many lottery tickets as possible.
dahrougem2
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You can have all of Colorado's dead weight, which admittedly isn't much but take Kurtis MacDermid and Pavel Francouz for a f***ing 7th for all I care.
I mean not saying Chicago does it but it’s like $2.9 million on the cap. Not exactly first round pick worthy
99% of what’s on here has no chance of happening.
Chicago needs to attempt moving up. Not taking on cap dumps for a pick with a 10% chance of ever seeing NHL ice.
Hughes would be happy to send Armia or hoffman over for a 3rd, maybe a 3rd and 4th for Armia as he has 2 years.
I think they can trade Edmundson for modest value.
If Hawks are asking for a 1st or 2nd for either of those guys, it won't happen.
Habs can easily retain both (they're not desperate / capped out) and the value of a 1st is probably a contract in the 6+ mill range like habs got for Monahan.
Armia makes 3 mill and hoffman 4
I think they can trade Edmundson for modest value.
If Hawks are asking for a 1st or 2nd for either of those guys, it won't happen.
Habs can easily retain both (they're not desperate / capped out) and the value of a 1st is probably a contract in the 6+ mill range like habs got for Monahan.
Armia makes 3 mill and hoffman 4
Never said they were doing it. It’s a poster offering up two guys he sees no point in having on his said team. We aren’t getting a first for both of those guys while trading a lower pick back. Not enough incentive for Colorado to do that.
dahrougem2
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I’m sure he would be happy to dump a contract for pretty much nothing.
Chicago counters, will take the 6 mill you owe Armia and send you a 3rd rd pick (Dallas) for Florida’s 1st (29 to 32) and Montreal’s 3rd rd pick.
No thanks to either for mid round picks. Only way imaginable would be a pick swap. We move up and the habs down Mrazek style.
Maybe 5 1sts?
But why should Chicago do a team with cup hopes a favor and not get back something of value in return?
Blackhawkswincup
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Actually, Armia is going to make $4.8M this year (And $3.8M in 2024/25)
Habs backloaded his costs which will make his final years the costliest and further make it difficult to move contract.
And even eating 50% still will make Armia in actual costs pricey for a 4th liner and unappealing in league that cap space is limited.
Also, Hoffman makes $5M in actual salary this coming year not $4M. Retaining on him 50% though should net Habs maybe a mid-level prospect or potentially 3rd round pick as teams take gamble, he can help PP and find some of his previous success.
This type of stuff matters to owners when taking on cap dumps and how much it will cost to move them.
dahrougem2
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Sure, no issue with the premise there.
A f***ing 1st, though? You realize that'd be mocked immediately. Hell, even a 2nd would be mocked.
Why is hughes dumping contracts with picks? Are you aware the Habs are rebuilding? They aren't using the cap any time soon.
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