Post-Game Talk: Another embarrassing loss

[Scion]

They scored on all those "moments."

In no way am I saying Samsonov didn't lose the game.

However, he had help on at least 3 of the goals against by Liljegren losing the puck on a nothing play, Leafs giving up a 3-1, which turned into a 2-0. And 3 Leafs not being aware of more than 1 player on the ice(puck watching).

Fair enough on two of them, but if that's all you concede while scoring 5 you did pretty well.

 

[Scion]

I'm not arguing that the Leafs are good defensively, but this is not the game to criticize their 200 ft game. They were excellent tonight.

 

[notbias]

Hey, tipping practice.
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Keep going... you've found 3 defensive breakdowns so far...

The Leafs played a pretty good game.

Mistake-free hockey doesn't happen often, but they limited their chances.

Not claiming they played perfect, just that they limited them enough that it should have been a simple win.

 

[Divine]

Leafs three goalies that all play behind the same defense:

Goalie A: 15GP .916 save percentage
Goalie B: 7GP .915 save percentage
Goalie C: 15GP .862 save percentage

All behind the same defense... but Samsonov never has any chance unfortunately. One of those goalies cleared waivers and started in the AHL and no, it's not goalie C.

 

[trellaine201]

Watched the hi-lights er lowlights. We lost to Columbus lmao.

 

[notDatsyuk]

And that's why you don't let JT take faceoffs in OT.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Leafs three goalies that all play behind the same defense:

Goalie A: 15GP .916 save percentage
Goalie B: 7GP .915 save percentage
Goalie C: 15GP .862 save percentage

All behind the same defense... but Samsonov never has any chance unfortunately. One of those goalies cleared waivers and started in the AHL and no, it's not goalie C.

Allan Bester was a special kind of bad... in an era where bad was expected.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Allan Bester was a special kind of bad... in an era where bad was expected.

And yet he had more than his share of fans. I never understood that.

 

[BayStBullies]

The Leafs keefed another easy game.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

And that's why you don't let JT take faceoffs in OT.

And definitely not with Willy and Morgs.. yikes!!

 

[leafs in five]

Post-Game Talk: - Leafs embarrass the pens and dubas, shut them down. WIN 7-0

Dubas built both teams. He played himself...and won. Like playing chess against yourself in public. Technically you win, but people make fun of you.

forums.hfboards.com

 

[Macman]

This team is embarrassing and pathetic. After watching Sweden play picture-perfect defence against Canada in the afternoon to watch the Leafs stumbling and bumbling their way to another loss against a bottom-feeder was too much. Keefe clearly can’t teach or motivate this bunch to do anything. It’s over.

 

[Dave92]

They had a little bit of pressure to beat one of the worst teams in the league and choked their asses off.

 

[baton elevated]

Easy solution, trade Sammy to a team trying to finish dead last looking to pick #1 overall. Win win for everybody (except Sammy).

 

[baton elevated]

On the bright side, if you are a betting man you can make a fortune going with the lousy teams against the leafs. It's almost guaranteed money! This team is clearly not a contender and never was. They spent countless assets when it was clear it wasn't going anywhere. They jumped the rebuild and now we have this.
Interesting how most saw it for what it is and yet these so called hockey experts do not. Goes to show you anybody can run a sports franchise. I bet most on this board would do a better job...........truly!

 

[baton elevated]

I'm confident at this point (actually long before, but reinforced even more now) that there's nothing realistic this team will do on the ice between now and the trade deadline that will convince Treliving to be a buyer and mortgage what few picks/prospects this team has left on a frivolous attempt to go on a deep playoff run.

They don't have it.

The defense is not good enough, they will have to rely on a goalie that hasn't played a full NHL season, still a top-heavy team - even more so with each passing year that doesn't have the scoring depth required, the inconsistency, the failure to show up in "easy" games, barely above .500 in regulation ...

The question really is, internally, what will MLSE/Shanahan's marching orders for the GM be? Do they accept reality and move on from this season or insist that Treliving go for it again, just like Dubas did every year?

There in lies the problem that has plagued this franchise for decades. The ownership/management will not allow the GM to properly do their job. The meddle too much. Keep the boat afloat and hope for success. They are not prepared to make the team champions, if it came by luck gravy . The stands will always be full, TV revenue in the bank, they have it all uncontested.

 

[KingJoffrey]

Dubas caused this mess.

You had top 10 starter (Freddie) and true veteral backup to support your starter. Then you replace McBackup with Sparky Sparks.

People ignore how valuable true veteran backups are. They offer valuable information to starter and understand their role as support player to starter.

The true backup does a lot more than start 25 games. He helps your starter mentally and gives starter supportive feedback so the starter can succeed and do his best.

It is a disaster to have two 20's year olds to fight eachother for a spot for long. Best teams have a true number one and solid vetera! backup who can step in critical times and handle pressuare.

McBackup didn't maybe have best raw skills. But he had experience, experience and experience to do solid job. Boy Blunder though he is smarter than anyone else and ruined it all. Also Andersen's play level dropped after solid backup went away. Because he needed carry the load totally himself.

 

[baton elevated]

Can we sign Curtis McElhinney?

We already did (Martin Jones).

 

[rumman]

The sad thing about the Atlantic is that the Leafs are only 5 points behind Boston, who are also playing like hot garbage lately. Florida might be the best team in the division, and even they never know what they are going to get in net.

What happened to your prediction of a win? I’m not confusing you with the Amazing Kreskin anytime soon………

Garbage in garbage out

Not to mention we constantly have defense issues

Oh yeah guess which coach has the pleasure of having all these goalies.

That 3rd goal by Columbus was a great example, Gio and Brodie leave a BJ unattended in front of the net by a astounding 10’, now that’s bad defence……….

 

[rumman]

I don't know what happened to Sammy. I've said it before, how much did the arbitration affect him. He has to sit and listen to the organization basically tear him down for like 800k on the cap

So he sucks because his feelings got hurt?

 

[Macallan18]

Please rent a rocket from Elon Musk and fire Samsonov, Reeves, Treliving, Keefe, and Shanahan into the sun.

There in lies the problem that has plagued this franchise for decades. The ownership/management will not allow the GM to properly do their job. The meddle too much. Keep the boat afloat and hope for success. They are not prepared to make the team champions, if it came by luck gravy . The stands will always be full, TV revenue in the bank, they have it all uncontested.

This is demonstrably false.
Treliving has been a terrible GM all on his own.
Are you saying Shanahan forced him to sign Reeves and Klingerg?
Wouldn't permit him to sign Nylander early for a slight overpay?
Refuses to let him send Samsonov down to the AHL and call up Hildeby?
Now, to be fair, ownership and management suck, but that got reflected in the hiring of an experienced idiot in Treliving.

 

[rumman]

Based on the mistakes Columbus made tonight, we should have scored 14

Matthews alone had 2 chances from the low slot in the last 5 minutes of the 3rd but was stopped by a waiver claim

Sammy is beyond trash

planning to out score a bad defence and awful goaltending is not a recipe for success imo………

Can't help but wonder if he's signalling something here

Keefe’s trying to deflect blame, it was his genius idea to start a goalie he knows can’t stop a beachball………

 

[rumman]

Keefe’s certainly got the build for playing net.

And comes with his own multi layer chin protector………

 

[rumman]

Columbus had very few chances and shots.

I'm blaming nobody besides samsonov for this. Rest of the team played well. Not perfect, but was much better than CBJ

Playing better than Columbus isn’t setting a very high bar imo……..

 

[Jojalu]

And you wonder why I don't wanna repeat the mistakes of spending half the god damn cap on 4 forwards. Willy has to go. Like it or not we need to pay someone reliable to be our god damn goalie. Marner and Tavares have NTC. That makes Willy the odd man out up front.

A mid goalie starts at 5. Great goalies? 7-10. Sammy makes 3.5. In that range, sure! you might be a starter but you are not reliable. You will likely let in a trash goal at least once a game.

We got what we paid for.

I think you need to go look at what the top goalies are making this year.

There are zero making 7-10.