Son of Donegal
Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.
There isn’t a single human in existence who can make sense of Yzerman’s decision on Wallman. Detroit had one of the worst offseasons in recent memory.
Player Discussion Andrew Peeke
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LouJersey
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Heard his stick handling is second to only his razorblade skills, and he's only had a year of practice
IMO an actual 3rd round prospect in your hand is not the same as the promise of a prospect in 3 years
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And he was viewed as pretty damn smart and a good GM for a while.
Did he suddenly become stupid, or is there way more to being a GM than we can we can see?
Don't get me wrong, second guessing management is fun and a big part of being a sports fan, but we get super into the weeds and it's a bit crazy.
BlackFrancis
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These are recent ones with only a season left. Too lazy to look for multi-season dumps.
And none of those guys are close to Peekes age.
Mad-Marcus
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If I was a betting man, I expect Peeke will prove his value over the season.
82 Games, ~15pts, +/- of > +10, PK ice time of >2m/G.
If the B's are still competitive in 2027, the 3rd rounder will be in the mid to high 20's at least, big deal.
82 Games, ~15pts, +/- of > +10, PK ice time of >2m/G.
If the B's are still competitive in 2027, the 3rd rounder will be in the mid to high 20's at least, big deal.
BlackFrancis
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But I wasn't asked to show players traded with a pick who were the same age as Peeke.
And I think I did a fairly decent job in my prior post tamping down on using a lot of the reasons/returns on prior trades as reasons for the Peeke deal to be considered a pure cap dump.
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I do agree, but with one minor exception.
"is going" implies there is a shred of sanity left.
I'm afraid Elvis has already left the building on this one.
Mad-Marcus
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Glad they dumped him to us, We'll develop him better than they've shown themselves capable of.
There is a severe negative obsession with this player that is beyond reality. He's better than Forbort at less money. Bigger and badder than Gryz at less money.(Gryz made too much $$ to be a 3rd pairing guy that wasn't PP specialist, plus made of glass at this point)
Peeke pedigree screams poor development by CBS, Hockey Easy All Rookie, Capt on Notre Dame. 2nd round pick, right around where Carlo was picked the year before.
I think people don't give enough credit in how a team develops and supports young players(ie Wotherspoon).
Career can be built or crushed by how a player is coached to their strengths and weaknesses.
B's, now even more with J Leach coaching the D, is a better landing spot for guys like Peeke.
There is a severe negative obsession with this player that is beyond reality. He's better than Forbort at less money. Bigger and badder than Gryz at less money.(Gryz made too much $$ to be a 3rd pairing guy that wasn't PP specialist, plus made of glass at this point)
Peeke pedigree screams poor development by CBS, Hockey Easy All Rookie, Capt on Notre Dame. 2nd round pick, right around where Carlo was picked the year before.
I think people don't give enough credit in how a team develops and supports young players(ie Wotherspoon).
Career can be built or crushed by how a player is coached to their strengths and weaknesses.
B's, now even more with J Leach coaching the D, is a better landing spot for guys like Peeke.
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Sorry, not nitpicking what you posted at all, just meant to add that those guys were all 30+ when they were traded, while Peeke was 26.
Mad-Marcus
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It doesn’t matter to some how good he plays. “Asset management”, “overpay”, and “could have acquired him for less” stretches forward, as far as the eye can see.
LouJersey
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Isn't this where the organization, structure and coaching comes in with the Bruins? Shouldn't they be able to coach up a couple guys making a million bucks a piece to the level of a Peeke and Korpisalo who weigh in at 5.75?
Asset management is a big deal when you have 5 proven top 6 players and no money to pay someone if Lysell doesn't grab it, or someone else. There is always the Geekie/Brazeau thing maybe, but that's why you don't win a cup usually when guys play in spots over their pay scale.
UncleRico
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Unfortunately, many here are completely content with a playoff appearance. So the impact these guys make or don’t make in the playoffs is marginal to them.
Dennis Bonvie
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Thanks!
So the Canadiens got a 2025 first round pick and Monahan.
Then they trade him for 2024 first round pick two years later.
Sounds like the kind of deals Sam Pollock used to pull off in Montreal.
Well said, obviously anyone here who doesnt agree with your roster building doesnt want a cup win, we all just want one and done. Bruins are the only fans to chant "We want round 1!" Instead of "We want the cup", make it happen Donny get us into that first round
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BlackFrancis
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They tried to flip him 2023, but Monahan got injured a month or so prior to the deadline.
I suspect Gorton is involved in Montreal's trade negotiations. He bent Sweeney over pretty badly on that Nash deal, then rehabs Spooner in, like, 6 weeks and flips him for a young, serviceable center in Strome.
Mad-Marcus
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Starting material matters. Better athlete should provide better results, leaving us eventually with a better than 3rd pairing guy for < than 3M/yr.
You guys are really stuck in your East Coast hockey Manager mentality.
The guys leftover to pay 5-6M+ for 2 line wingers, weren't exactly Bruins type players(all O, no 2 way responsible play), and Debrusk did not want to come back at a realistic number, nor provide the consistent output that warranted it.
Thomas 11
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He did not rehab him. Old friend Peter C in Edmonton was making trades like a drunken sailor before he was fired. Oilers fans hated that trade!
UncleRico
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We’ve gone through this multiple times and numerous people said they would rather the Don Sweeney era of making the playoffs every year over the chiarelli era of winning a cup but a playoff miss mixed in.
If that’s not you then there is no reason for you to get upset about it.
Bruins4Lifer
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That tells more about how terrible Chiarelli was as a GM (for the Oilers, anyway) than anything else. It was the next season after the Nash trade when Spooner was dealt to Edmonton, following a terrible start with 2 points in 16 games.
Don't you worry I'm not upset, I find the notion that if we don't hate Korpisalo and Peeke then we aren't serious about wanting to win the cup, very funny
Nothingbutglass
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Andrew Peeke would be shocked to learn that an Andrew Peeke thread is 29 pages and created blood enemies.
