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Andrej Sekera

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ashnathan said:
Hi guys,

Are LA going to be able to re-sign Sekera after this season or was he just a rental for you guys?

Thanks!
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Supposedly they're gonna try and re-sign him sometime after the season is over. But it hinges on a bunch of things, like a buyout or trade of Richards, the Voynov situation and so on.
 
I only ask cos I have been crying to Chiarelli to sign him since last season :cry: thought you guys might be in cap hell next season and wouldn't be able to
 
ashnathan said:
I only ask cos I have been crying to Chiarelli to sign him since last season :cry: thought you guys might be in cap hell next season and wouldn't be able to
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The Kings can re-sign Sekera easily with the right moves in the off season. Those would be buying out Richards and letting Stoll and Williams walk, and replacing those three with players that make less money.
 
ashnathan said:
I only ask cos I have been crying to Chiarelli to sign him since last season :cry: thought you guys might be in cap hell next season and wouldn't be able to
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Forget about Sekera for a second.

Instead, would you be interested in a 2 time Stanley Cup Champ? He's a great locker room guy and is quite familiar with the East Coast. His name you ask? Mike Richards. We could also toss in Matt Greene and Dustin Brown and a $45 gift certificate to Olive Garden. Think about it, bro. :naughty:
 
he needs to be signed...how do you justify giving up a 1st and prospect and then not making the playoffs...give him 5.5 for 6....need to get rid of greene and voynov
 
KingsCourt said:
he needs to be signed...how do you justify giving up a 1st and prospect and then not making the playoffs...give him 5.5 for 6....need to get rid of greene and voynov
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Why does one mean the other has to happen? We traded for a deadline rental and it didn't work. Why do we HAVE to sign him? He's not worth $5.5 million in cap space for six years, that's just making the situation worse, not better.
 
Short of 6 million, give that man what he wants, or fold up shop. With no Voynov in the forseeable future, unless Martinez is becoming our second pairing d-man and we're signing a defensive d-man to go next to him, Sekera is a crucial part of our success going forward, because he's one of the only guys that can help Doughty munch minutes.
 
Brad Doty said:
Short of 6 million, give that man what he wants, or fold up shop. With no Voynov in the forseeable future, unless Martinez is becoming our second pairing d-man and we're signing a defensive d-man to go next to him, Sekera is a crucial part of our success going forward, because he's one of the only guys that can help Doughty munch minutes.
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And what happens if Voynov is found not guilty? Trading Voynov gets us pennies on the dollar right now, to the point it's not even worth it, and you can't trade Sekera just a month or two after signing him to an extension, so who goes?
 
kingsfan said:
And what happens if Voynov is found not guilty? Trading Voynov gets us pennies on the dollar right now, to the point it's not even worth it, and you can't trade Sekera just a month or two after signing him to an extension, so who goes?
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If you hold a gun to my head, Voynov. But I think that's a moving part we can't really count on this moment with the constant pushing back of his trial and his long-term injury. He'll be on LTIR/rehab if he comes back at all anyway and we'll have time to sort out who goes then...but if you don't sign Sekera and you lose Voynov, you're in much, much worse shape imo. I'll look at the org chart on my lunch break to draw up something that makes cap sense.
 
kingsfan said:
And what happens if Voynov is found not guilty? Trading Voynov gets us pennies on the dollar right now, to the point it's not even worth it, and you can't trade Sekera just a month or two after signing him to an extension, so who goes?
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Trade Martinez or Muzzin.

Brad Doty said:
If you hold a gun to my head, Voynov. But I think that's a moving part we can't really count on this moment with the constant pushing back of his trial and his long-term injury. He'll be on LTIR/rehab if he comes back at all anyway and we'll have time to sort out who goes then...but if you don't sign Sekera and you lose Voynov, you're in much, much worse shape imo. I'll look at the org chart on my lunch break to draw up something that makes cap sense.
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I agree. Add to that, Sekera plays the kind of game a defenseman in the NHL can be very effective at for a very long time. He's an effortless skater, uses positioning over brawn, and makes good decisions with the puck.
 
I wouldn't trade Muzzin. I Love A-Mart, but his game falls off once his minutes start to get up there.

Muzzin has proven he can play big minutes. Muzzin is also extremely productive from the back-end.
 
KINGS17 said:
Trade Martinez or Muzzin.



I agree. Add to that, Sekera plays the kind of game a defenseman in the NHL can be very effective at for a very long time. He's an effortless skater, uses positioning over brawn, and makes good decisions with the puck.
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damacles1156 said:
I wouldn't trade Muzzin. I Love A-Mart, but his game falls off once his minutes start to get up there.

Muzzin has proven he can play big minutes. Muzzin is also extremely productive from the back-end.
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The Kings are not the Flyers. They don't sign players just to trade them.

Ain't happenin'

"Nothing's happening!"

"Those kinds of things..."

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damacles1156 said:
I wouldn't trade Muzzin. I Love A-Mart, but his game falls off once his minutes start to get up there.

Muzzin has proven he can play big minutes. Muzzin is also extremely productive from the back-end.
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Well, I am a big Muzzin supporter, so I agree.
 
kingsfan said:
And what happens if Voynov is found not guilty? Trading Voynov gets us pennies on the dollar right now, to the point it's not even worth it, and you can't trade Sekera just a month or two after signing him to an extension, so who goes?
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We'll trade Johnny Utah
 
KINGS17 said:
Trade Martinez or Muzzin.



I agree. Add to that, Sekera plays the kind of game a defenseman in the NHL can be very effective at for a very long time. He's an effortless skater, uses positioning over brawn, and makes good decisions with the puck.
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So trade a guy we just signed to an extension so we can keep a guy who we are signing to an extension. That'll play over well in future contract talks I'm sure. DL has done well in not getting NTC/NMC's added to deals, that'll stop quickly you move either of them.
 
kingsfan said:
So trade a guy we just signed to an extension so we can keep a guy who we are signing to an extension. That'll play over well in future contract talks I'm sure. DL has done well in not getting NTC/NMC's added to deals, that'll stop quickly you move either of them.
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Remember what Dean said after his mistake with Richards? Let me paraphrase, "I am going to start treating players more like commodities." After this season all Dean will care about is making the team better.

The signing of recent deals certainly didn't stop him from trading Visnovsky or Johnson. The policy of no NTCs will continue unabated. You keep coming up with all these invented reasons why Dean can't or won't do something. Richards will be gone most likely via a buy out. Players will be traded. Otherwise, what's the point of having a policy against NTCs?
 
kingsfan said:
Why does one mean the other has to happen? We traded for a deadline rental and it didn't work. Why do we HAVE to sign him? He's not worth $5.5 million in cap space for six years, that's just making the situation worse, not better.
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Totally disagree... One does mean the other... They have invested a lot in getting him, not signing him is just more egg on DL's face. You won't sign him for 4mil, quality Dman is not making it worse...did you see the defense this year. Big reason we will miss the playoffs
 
KINGS17 said:
Remember what Dean said after his mistake with Richards? Let me paraphrase, "I am going to start treating players more like commodities." After this season all Dean will care about is making the team better.

The signing of recent deals certainly didn't stop him from trading Visnovsky or Johnson. The policy of no NTCs will continue unabated. You keep coming up with all these invented reasons why Dean can't or won't do something. Richards will be gone most likely via a buy out. Players will be traded. Otherwise, what's the point of having a policy against NTCs?
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All DL ever cares about is making the team better, that doesn't suddenly start this off-season.

As for Johnson, he was traded 13 months after signing his extension, over over a full season later. Martinez signed his in December, Muzzin in October. We aren't even done the season in which they signed their extension. If you think players don't notice this, you are mistaken. And none of that takes into account that Johnson was dealt for Carter, who already had a built in ally in the dressing room in Richards and Stevens to likely help sell the move. Visnovsky was also a year after signing his extension before being dealt.

KingsCourt said:
Totally disagree... One does mean the other... They have invested a lot in getting him, not signing him is just more egg on DL's face. You won't sign him for 4mil, quality Dman is not making it worse...did you see the defense this year. Big reason we will miss the playoffs
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The list of players teams trade for at the deadline, including high profile trades, is long, yet percentage wish most don't sign an extension with the team that acquires them. No one says they have egg on their face for failing to do so. Did St. Louis have egg on their face for letting Ryan Miller walk? No, they took a shot, went big, it didn't work, they moved on. They didn't compound the issue by signing him to an extension at $6 million per year. Same here.
 
Voynov needs to go. His actions, criminal or not, totally screwed the Kings over this season. It's quite possible there might be some in the room or organization none too happy with how everything transpired. The defense and the pairings were in a state of flux causing the defensive chemistry to never emerge. I don't think it's a coincidence the Kings have blown so many leads this season. To top it off, he gets seriously injured playing tennis.

As far as his trade value if he's found innocent, you don't think there will be a bidding war for a good young second pairing defenseman with a favorable contract? The league is going to collude to only tender lowball offers for Slava? I have to totally disagree that his value will be low. A player's value is only has high as the need for him, which would be great in the league once he proves healthy. It's not like Voynov has an NMC where he can dictate where he's going to go. He can be traded anywhere. Keep Sekera as he's a first pairing defenseman who plays the type of game we hope Voynov can someday achieve. Sekera relies on his skating and smarts, which is unlikely to age poorly unless catastrophic injury occurs.

Lombardi can't afford to stand pat on this unless he knows for sure Voynov will be found innocent or he thinks a prospect is ready to step up next season. If he feels either of those 2 scenarios are likely, maybe he lets Sekera walk or trades his UFA negotiation rights to another team for a low pick. Unless Sekera's demands are exorbitant, the prudent move is to re-sign him and move someone else.
 
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