Proposal: [ANA/WPG] Despres for Dano

[Kalv]

At their best, fair trade. Despres concussions worry me.

Yeah last year was quite rough for Simon but before that he was quite good 2nd pair defenseman for us. Will see how he rebounds next year.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Edit:

I feel Dano is more valuable, and his contract is much much smaller.. Adding Chiarot just makes this proposal worse in terms of value coming back. Depres would be nice on the bottom pairing, but I'd rather see what we have in Morrisey. Dano for Larsson on the other hand I think could be a point of discussion.

Definitely adding to get Larsson imo, just by virtue of being exempt from the expansion draft alone adds a fair amount of value

 

[Pestilence]

From a Jets fan buddy of mine

Things we now know about Marko Dano

- will be a 1st line winger
- will be a 50-70 point player that is a beast on the PP
- will have a higher career high in points than Ladd (63 points)
- by NO means projects to be a 3rd liner
- wouldn't trade him straight up for Drouin
- Drouin has maybe a little more talent than Dano (but not much)
- has waaaay more pure skill than a Gallagher
- Danos iq and skillset is elite
- his vision is top notch
- his skill set is phenomal
- he is a very elusive player with great stick skills and vision

Damn he sounds good.

Dano for Mackinnon? Ristolainen? Giroux? Seguin? Lindholm maybe?

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Let's see, as a Jets fan, do i do this trade? If the expansion draft wasn't happening? I might consider it as i feel Depres is a good player and LHD so that helps, however i feel the Jets LHD concerns are blown a little bit out of proportion at times... I honestly don't care what what a guy shoots the puck, I think it's irrelevant so as of right now, assuming Trouba signs which he will, Buff Trouba, Myers,Toby <-- that's the Jets top 4. Yeah 3 of them shoot right but who cares... and that is also 4 guys who the Jets will have to protect in the expansion draft, so adding Depres? Would i want to lose him in a year to the expansion draft? Cuz I don't think i'd be protecting any more D men, Unless one of Myers or Enstrom are traded, basically Depres doesn't make sense for the Jets.

Will the Jets probably lose Dano in the expansion draft? It's possible for sure, Very likely, one of our Bottom 6 young guys will be taken for sure.... Do i think having Dano for a year is probably more important than have Depres for a year? At this point, I think i do... so as a Jets fan, Unless the D being offered is expansion exempt? I probably don't trade Dano and take my chances that perhaps Armia or Lowry are taken instead of Dano.

But as for Depres for Dano? Pretty easy pass from the Jets when you consider that the Jets will have to protect Buff,Trouba,Myers,Enstrom in the expansion draft.

I guess, really... the Bottom line is... if I'm the Jets i'm looking at trading one of Myers or Enstrom instead of adding another D man. I think the only way the Jets would trade for a D man right now is if they moved a D man out... Damn expansion draft.

 

[HanSolo]

This is perhaps slightly a bit too optimistic but i can't disagree with much of it tbh

Marko Dano

2016-17

75 gp - 18 g - 25 a - 43 pts

Now that's what I call meta.

 

[mazmin]

I'd rather not from the Jets' end.

But what if it pushes Stuart out of the lineup?

...Oh you'd rather.

 

[Whileee]

Jets top 4 D would not include Depres. I don't think he's much of an upgrade on Chiarot, to be honest. Morrissey is waiting in the wings and projects as a better LHD. Jets don't really need a bottom pairing LHD.

 

[Hunter368]

Jets top 4 D would not include Depres. I don't think he's much of an upgrade on Chiarot, to be honest. Morrissey is waiting in the wings and projects as a better LHD. Jets don't really need a bottom pairing LHD.

Correct

 

[Not So Mighty]

Considering the Ducks cap situation and Despres' concussion, I'd do this trade for sure but without Chiarot. We don't want him on a one way contract.

 

[10Ducky10]

If the Jets are trading for a D man, he will have to be exempt from the expansion draft. Also, I think they talk to Enstrom and he is left unprotected. Vegas won't take a 32 year old D man with only one year left on an expensive contract. This way, the Jets go 7-3-1.
If the ducks want Dano, it will cost them at least Larsson and I don't think the Jets add anything. What has Larsson done? Has he even played a game in the NHL? Dano will get you 37-40 points a season if he sees enough ice time. No thanks to Depres, we don't need another 3rd pairing D man.

I'd do two of Dano Petan Lemieux for a re-signed Fowler after the expansion draft.

 

[lindholmie]

If the Jets are trading for a D man, he will have to be exempt from the expansion draft. Also, I think they talk to Enstrom and he is left unprotected. Vegas won't take a 32 year old D man with only one year left on an expensive contract. This way, the Jets go 7-3-1.
If the ducks want Dano, it will cost them at least Larsson and I don't think the Jets add anything. What has Larsson done? Has he even played a game in the NHL? Dano will get you 37-40 points a season if he sees enough ice time. No thanks to Depres, we don't need another 3rd pairing D man.

I'd do two of Dano Petan Lemieux for a re-signed Fowler after the expansion draft.

lmao i love your posts. what has connor done? has he even play an NHL game? means hes not worth much. And also id do two of the ducks B prospects for a re-signed trouba

 

[Elvs]

Also, I think they talk to Enstrom and he is left unprotected. Vegas won't take a 32 year old D man with only one year left on an expensive contract. This way, the Jets go 7-3-1.

That's exactly why Vegas could take him though. They are likely gonna need to take on a couple of pretty bad contracts to reach the cap floor. And if I was GM I'd rather take on a bad contract with only a year remaining, instead of being stuck with a bad one for years. That way I'd have plenty of room to sign good free agents the following summer.

 

[Quackery]

If Enstrom gets exposed he'll be picked up and then traded at the deadline as a rental. Unless Jets expose someone better.

 

[Ducks in a row]

If the Jets are trading for a D man, he will have to be exempt from the expansion draft. Also, I think they talk to Enstrom and he is left unprotected. Vegas won't take a 32 year old D man with only one year left on an expensive contract. This way, the Jets go 7-3-1.
If the ducks want Dano, it will cost them at least Larsson and I don't think the Jets add anything. What has Larsson done? Has he even played a game in the NHL? Dano will get you 37-40 points a season if he sees enough ice time. No thanks to Depres, we don't need another 3rd pairing D man.

I'd do two of Dano Petan Lemieux for a re-signed Fowler after the expansion draft.

Ducks are not trading Larsson a 1st round pick who did well against grown men in Europe while being a teenager for Dano.

Fowler with a contract extension after expansion draft is bringing back something better then that.

 

[10Ducky10]

lmao i love your posts. what has connor done? has he even play an NHL game? means hes not worth much. And also id do two of the ducks B prospects for a re-signed trouba

Not sure how Connor got into the convo but if you don't know what he did last year, Google him......come back in 2-3 years and tell me about Connor.

 

[mytduxfan*]

Not sure how Connor got into the convo but if you don't know what he did last year, Google him......come back in 2-3 years and tell me about Connor.

... so we're only allowed to question what Connor's value is now 2-3 years down the line after he's started playing in the NHL. Good logic.

 

[Thai jet*]

Stu

Much perfer to keep Dano. Easy no thx IMO from Jets

Why the heck would we want ****ing Despres?

You rather have Stuart in that spot?

 

[Snowman]

You rather have Stuart in that spot?

So, you're saying you actually want to give up Dano and Chiarot, just to move Stuart out?

For me, that it too much to pay to push Stuart out.

 

[Weezeric]

Duck fans don't know how good dano is. When he was the same as nick Ritchie was this last season he played two more games than him in the nhl. And put up 17 more points. Would you trade Ritchie for Simon despres?

 

[cneely]

... so we're only allowed to question what Connor's value is now 2-3 years down the line after he's started playing in the NHL. Good logic.

Point is, Larsson and Connor are not really comparable. Connor did some amazing things in the NCAA which really have few comparables.

It's very impressive that Larsson held his own in a men's league at 18, but as a prospect, he doesn't really have Connor's pedigree IMO.

 

[cneely]

Duck fans don't know how good dano is. When he was the same as nick Ritchie was this last season he played two more games than him in the nhl. And put up 17 more points. Would you trade Ritchie for Simon despres?

Huh?

Dano only had 10 points in the NHL this year.

 

[mytduxfan*]

Point is, Larsson and Connor are not really comparable. Connor did some amazing things in the NCAA which really have few comparables.

It's very impressive that Larsson held his own in a men's league at 18, but as a prospect, he doesn't really have Connor's pedigree IMO.

Ok, but that shouldn't mean we have to wait 2-3 years before we're allowed to say "we disagree". Just because we don't share the same vision as you in terms of Connor's future potential, doesn't mean we're not allowed express our opinions.

 

[cneely]

Ok, but that shouldn't mean we have to wait 2-3 years before we're allowed to say "we disagree". Just because we don't share the same vision as you in terms of Connor's future potential, doesn't mean we're not allowed express our opinions.

Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but it should be based on some evidence.

What Connor did last year is very special. He basically matched Eichel's freshman year (albeit at a year older) and put up points in the NCAA as a freshman that haven't really been seen for a long time.

As I said, Larsson playing in a men's league is very impressive, but not that unique. Carlsson was picked 2 spots after him in the same draft and played in the same league.

 

[lindholmie]

Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but it should be based on some evidence.

What Connor did last year is very special. He basically matched Eichel's freshman year (albeit at a year older) and put up points in the NCAA as a freshman that haven't really been seen for a long time.

As I said, Larsson playing in a men's league is very impressive, but not that unique. Carlsson was picked 2 spots after him in the same draft and played in the same league.

an 18 year old playing top 4 mins (over 26 mins in a game once) as an 18 year old in the SHL champion team is pretty good. But im saying that them not being in the NHL doesn't lower their value. That jets fan said larsson is worth Dano. That not the player you go for when you have a player like larsson

 

[cneely]

an 18 year old playing top 4 mins (over 26 mins in a game once) as an 18 year old in the SHL champion team is pretty good. But im saying that them not being in the NHL doesn't lower their value. That jets fan said larsson is worth Dano. That not the player you go for when you have a player like larsson

I think Dano is getting underrated here. I thought he was excellent after coming over from the Hawks last year although the results were mediocre. He's still a 21 year old first round pick and I think he has top 6 potential based on what I saw last year. I'm just not sure he can get there on the Jets with their surplus of talent on the wings.

Depres is a solid player, injury issues aside, but I wouldn't part with Dano for him.