Confirmed Signing with Link: [ANA] Lindholm signed (6 years, $5.25m AAV)

[nbducksfan19]

Amazing deal for the Ducks. Hopefully Hampus is happy with it and won't hold any resentment to the team.

the good news is he has 6 years to get over it, before it would be an issue.

 

[Markus078]

I haven't seen it in this thread but does Lindholm have to wait until he gets his work visa or can he play tomorrow?

Has to wait. 1-2 weeks are likely.

 

[hizzoner]

Buffalo must hate Risto's deal right now. Lindholm's defensive stats are from a different planet, and their offensive output is similar. Though Ducks fans propably hate Stoner's, Vatanen's and Bieksa's contracts after this one even more.

It is difficult to say that Buffalo's team defence is equal to the Ducks and thus Risto should not be graded the same way. Who you play with and the strength of the team in front of you can make a difference. Sabres are happy with Risto and wanted him to be happy while still being balanced with respect to salary and cap. Less residual hard feelings for sure when the next contract comes up.

 

[Canada4Gold]

It's not that they get $30k added per day. The cap AAV is adjusted by the % of regular season days the player is signed for.

The $30k figure was an estimate specifically for Lindholm based on a ~$5.5m contract.

Can someone clarify the exact math and logic for me? When I saw Bob's tweet I assumed that it was (180/165)x5.25, the number of days left in the season(15 are gone) over the number of days in the season(180) multiplied by what his normal AAV would be.

I assumed it was done this way because him not being on the roster for the first 15 days would bring the entire cap hit for the season down to 5.25 because the cap is counted daily. Which would essentially be the inverse of the above, (165/180)x5.69

But then I did the math and realized that it doesn't work for 165 days remaining, it works for 166 days remaining. But from today to April 9th inclusive(the last day of the season) there are only 165 days.

So my question is if this is the math involved, why are they using 166 days instead of 165?

 

[leaflover]

That's a fair contract for both sides.
Well done.

 

[MikeK]

Steal for the Ducks. Not much else to say.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Sounds like a darn solid signing to me. That should be very good (to great) value for all those 6 years, I would say. Had to think he was hoping for more than this, but if he were to lose a year of salary by sticking to his guns, in the long run he probably wouldn't have made any more than what he will.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

That is a really really good contract for Anaheim.

Player took a big paycut.

 

[Fighter]

Steal

 

[robbieboy3686]

I am so torn. Theodore had his best game of his career last night and DO NOT want him sent down. Hell even Stoner has been playing well lately. If anything, I would want Bieska to go down but that is not happening.

This is what I don't understand! At this point , bieksa can't even make a simple pass! He is #7-8 on the depth chart imo. Is he not eligible to be put on waivers because of his no trade clause? Because he is a serious liability right now

 

[Sojourn]

This is what I don't understand! At this point , bieksa can't even make a simple pass! He is #7-8 on the depth chart imo. Is he not eligible to be put on waivers because of his no trade clause? Because he is a serious liability right now

It isn't a no trade clause, it's a no movement clause, which means that the team can't send him down without him waiving it.

 

[mouser]

Can someone clarify the exact math and logic for me? When I saw Bob's tweet I assumed that it was (180/165)x5.25, the number of days left in the season(15 are gone) over the number of days in the season(180) multiplied by what his normal AAV would be.

I assumed it was done this way because him not being on the roster for the first 15 days would bring the entire cap hit for the season down to 5.25 because the cap is counted daily. Which would essentially be the inverse of the above, (165/180)x5.69

But then I did the math and realized that it doesn't work for 165 days remaining, it works for 166 days remaining. But from today to April 9th inclusive(the last day of the season) there are only 165 days.

So my question is if this is the math involved, why are they using 166 days instead of 165?

Haven't tried to check Bob's math, and he admitted himself he's not great at it Could be a mistake or something about the rule we don't quite understand. Was also my assumption it should be 180/165 ratio.

As to the logic behind the rule: my suspicion is it revolves around not allowing a team to gain cap space by delaying the signing of an RFA into the regular season. The CBA language highlights this as one of the goals, though the examples and other language don't seem to be well written and contain some potential contradictions. The CBA also doesn't make any explicit mention that the cap calculation formula works the way McKenie says it does. Though if Bob is repeating this then it's reasonable to believe he got it from official sources that the NHL/PA have agreed to implement the rule as he describes it.

 

[The Examiner]

Has to wait. 1-2 weeks are likely.

Thanks!

 

[Canada4Gold]

Haven't tried to check Bob's math, and he admitted himself he's not great at it Could be a mistake or something about the rule we don't quite understand. Was also my assumption it should be 180/165 ratio.

As to the logic behind the rule: my suspicion is it revolves around not allowing a team to gain cap space by delaying the signing of an RFA into the regular season. The CBA language highlights this as one of the goals, though the examples and other language don't seem to be well written and contain some potential contradictions. The CBA also doesn't make any explicit mention that the cap calculation formula works the way McKenie says it does. Though if Bob is repeating this then it's reasonable to believe he got it from official sources that the NHL/PA have agreed to implement the rule as he describes it.

yeah I knew the logic behind the rule, and was actually going to mention that in the post but it slipped my mind. When I said logic I just wanted to make sure how I logically went about the calculations, perhaps a bad choice of words.

Just wanted to make sure I have the reasoning behind my calculations correct. And if there was any known reason why he might be using 166 instead.

Thanks

 

[robbieboy3686]

It isn't a no trade clause, it's a no movement clause, which means that the team can't send him down without him waiving it.

Thought so :/ thanks

 

[Canada4Gold]

Yeah Bob apparently had it wrong, he just tweeted the number I got from the 180/165 calculation

 

[Kalv]

I know he can try to sound better than he is but he sounds really happy from all the reports. He especially said (several times during the interview) that for him important was to keep all the last years core together as much as possible and that his signing wouldn`t make Ducks move anybody. He took less actual salary this year to ease it up on Samuellis. There really doesn`t seem to be any bad blood.

 

[OmarComin]

Congrats, Ducks fans. Great deal

 

[Iceman]

That's really nice, despite the wait.

 

[Mitchy]

Great d-man, great contract.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Good deal!

 

[Murky]

Great contract. Discount even, I would say. Ducks fans rejoice.

 

[lindholmie]

fowler is staying too!!!! 7 points in 8 games. advanced are good with an actual good partner.

 

[Ishad]

fowler is staying too!!!! 7 points in 8 games. advanced are good with an actual good partner.

As a Wings fan, I now hate Lindholm

 

[lomiller1]

Steal