Post-Game Talk: An absolute sham! We tied the game! Love you Hank

[SnowblindNYR]

The team wants this. The FO wants it and continue to hire coaches that want it.

They like getting outshot.

I can't explain what could possibly possess them but it's the only way to explain how they don't even try to improve it.

I think going from Lundqvist to Shesty, this organization is married to the idea that they'll KeepThingsToTheOutside(TM) and do mUh Qu@LiTY when we have the puck.

You know what, guys, apparently f***ing not because we're in year 16 now of having nothing but Hall of Fame goaltending and winning nothing with it.

Giving up a lot of shots isn't good but skill players will look for quality.

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

Joel Lundqvist 1st star

 

[Machinehead]

Makes me wonder if they haven't considered trading Shesty, getting a mid-tier goalie, and actual NHL players to knock some of the AHLers off this roster.

Yeah and maybe actually work on some of their talent.

Everything this team touches at forward dies. It can't be the players when it happens a dozen times.

Barron has been a PPG player on every team he's ever played for and he can't crack our 5th line.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Has little to do with the coach. They have too many 20 year old kids sprinkled through the lineup who don't contribute to the team's success, and who don't seem to be developing as soundly or quickly as we'd hope, which forces plugs to move up and down the lineup. The team isn't deep enough or experienced enough. That's it. It has next to zero to do with the coach.

I'd have no problem with the approach or losing games like this, by the way, if I felt most of the kids were meeting expectations. But they aren't.

It doesn't. This team has played this way when they were healthy. They've played this way since the puck dropped in October. There has been no correction to it. I hate to break this to you, but bringing JT Miller to this team isn't changing the way this team plays, it's not going to stop them from being a bad 5v5 team. The team has been bad like this since October and there have been absolutely zero effort to correct it. On top of that, this coach doesn't even inspire them at all. He's a hands off guy - way wrong guy for this team. How do you allow your team to come out like that in the third period after they played like that in the second? His team is constantly unprepared. That's the coach.

 

[17futurecap]

Gallant's refusal to play his best players instead of his favorite vets is the reason why he was fired twice on short notice and it's pretty apparent. Reaves is as slow as molasses and can't do anything offensively anymore. All he has is size. McKegg is just speed and then nothing. Rooney has some compete and grind with a bit of skill. That 4th line put together you might have 1 single good hockey player.

I would still like to see a 4th line of Hunt Rooney Goodrow when everyone is healthy, but I know it’s not happening.

The Leg and Body are AHL players. Reaves is absolutely cooked, maybe he turns it around somewhere, but time is running short for GOAT.

 

[Tob]

Giving up a lot of shots isn't good but skill players will look for quality.

If we had a 3rd and 4th line that can actually generate shots and chances, our 5v5 wouldn't be so bad. I swear the fancy charts will say as much. The top 6 is okay at 5v5. It's just the cave in when it's the scrubs.

 

[Machinehead]

Giving up a lot of shots isn't good but skill players will look for quality.

Skill players looking for quality isn't the problem.

The problem is that Zibanejad and Panarin are anchors even strength and literally don't play unless they have a fantastic scoring chance.

They both picked that up after playing for the Rangers, particularly Panarin who used to be a demon off the puck.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

It's hard to judge their play too much when they're missing Fox, let alone the forwards that are out forcing multiple AHL guys in the lineup.

Without Fox we're completely dead in the water. He's so important in every aspect of the team that without him we're unable to anything really effectively. The PP is worse, the PK is worse, we can't breakout of our zone, we get hemmed in where he would've made an easy breakout 30 seconds ago, we have no transition game, we don't push the pace through the NZ bc all the other D just either dump it or hesitate too long on their passes, we don't have the creativity in the offensive zone to slide into open seams and stuff. Really when he's out it leaves a gigantic gaping Grand Canyon sized hole in the team.

 

[EdJovanovski]

With how aggressive that power hungry maniac ref was making the call, I wonder if he had a bet riding on this game. Should be banned from the NHL & potentially arrested

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Gallant's refusal to play his best players instead of his favorite vets is the reason why he was fired twice on short notice and it's pretty apparent. Reaves is as slow as molasses and can't do anything offensively anymore. All he has is size. McKegg is just speed and then nothing. Rooney has some compete and grind with a bit of skill. That 4th line put together you might have 1 single good hockey player.

The "he's loyal to his guys" schtick is absolutely why he got left on the side of the road. He's not a good coach.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

For our neighbors across the pond, here is the MSG Henrik Lundqvist the Journey in three parts. 40 minutes in total.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This team is banged up, lets see where we are after the break when we have 14 days off.

Unless they change the way they play the game they are going to be in the exact same spot.

 

[DanielBrassard]

There's something fundamentally broken with this team. There's really no reason for them to be so poor 5v5. They looked a million times better under Quinn for crying out loud. I'm not the best with x's and o's so it's hard to pinpoint why they do struggle so badly but I'm sure someone would be able to figure it out. Jones needs to stick in the lineup, I don't care how small he is and how much he might struggle defensively. He was the only D on the ice tonight who could make a clean pass to up ice. He also made a number of really great reads pinching down the walls and keeping pucks in the zone to continue possession.

 

[Tob]

Let Nils play, boot Hajek. What a nothing burger player that organization just can't figure out. Why can't they simply get rid of McKegg and Hajek? What possible upside do you have with those two. The obsession with McKegg is probably Drury's. Went out to get him back in a Rangers sweater on day 1.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Highlights of the Henrik Lundqvist Banner Raising Ceremony.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Our current problem is two fold

1. How the hell do we not have more skill down in the ahl, we currently have 6 players that should be on our 4th line playing throughout the lineup. That is horrible. Rooney, hunt, reaves is a solid 4th line. Tonight they were playing 3rd line minutes

2. we are missing 3 really good players plus fox. We are looking THIN at forward

 

[DanielBrassard]

Skill players looking for quality isn't the problem.

The problem is that Zibanejad and Panarin are anchors even strength and literally don't play unless they have a fantastic scoring chance.

They both picked that up after playing for the Rangers, particularly Panarin who used to be a demon off the puck.

I honestly think there's something wrong with Panarin physically. His first year with the team he was still excellent at 5v5. Then last season there was some leakage and now he's a negative more often than he's not.

 

[Wtp99]

Btw, the fact that Barron can’t consistently get in the lineup with this many guys out tells me all I need to know about what Gallant thinks of him.

Agree with this, Brodinski should not have been playing. Give Barron a chance here. Hunt should be on the taxi squad, do we have no one better
I do think that Laf looks pretty good with Kreider and Zibanajad

 

[DialUp]

Every team goes through stretches of injuries, missing players, adversity. But the dust settles where it should for all TEAMS regardless. This team will settle exactly where it belongs, we all see it, we all ***g know it, and the sooner we accept it the less negative we will be. Just be happy we are properly in the mix for a playoff spot so there are meaningful games until the very end of the year. It's been a long time since Feb and March mattered.

Whether it's 3rd in the Metro or one of the wild cards, it will be a surprise.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I honestly think there's something wrong with Panarin physically. His first year with the team he was still excellent at 5v5. Then last season there was some leakage and now he's a negative more often than he's not.

I think he's getting old.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I think he's getting old.

Sure could be the case. I would hope not since he's here for 4 more years but it would be so typical.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

McKegg and Hunt need to go. The fact that Hunt can laugh with his team down 3-2 and he’s standing next to Greenway who just finished taking five extra whacks at his goalie after Shesterkin had stopped the puck.

 

[bbny]

It doesn't. This team has played this way when they were healthy. They've played this way since the puck dropped in October. There has been no correction to it. I hate to break this to you, but bringing JT Miller to this team isn't changing the way this team plays, it's not going to stop them from being a bad 5v5 team. The team has been bad like this since October and there have been absolutely zero effort to correct it. On top of that, this coach doesn't even inspire them at all. He's a hands off guy - way wrong guy for this team. How do you allow your team to come out like that in the third period after they played like that in the second? His team is constantly unprepared. That's the coach.

Agree with the bold, though I would say they are about average at 5v5, not necessarily "bad". Far from upper echelon in that regar They need a few roster changes to see 5v5 improvement, and I don't even want or like Miller much so he wouldn't be my pick. They need to adjust the top 6. Kreider, Zibanejad, Panarin are locked in. Every other spot in the top 6 should be looked at with a microscope to find a way to change the makeup of it.

But this is not a coaching problem. It's still a bit of a roster problem, mixed with underperforming young players.

 

[Machinehead]

I honestly think there's something wrong with Panarin physically. His first year with the team he was still excellent at 5v5. Then last season there was some leakage and now he's a negative more often than he's not.

Could be. I said Kreider was hurt for two years and now he has 31 goals.

There's something fundamentally broken with this team. There's really no reason for them to be so poor 5v5. They looked a million times better under Quinn for crying out loud. I'm not the best with x's and o's so it's hard to pinpoint why the struggle so badly but I'm sure someone would be able to figure it out. Jones needs to stick in the lineup, I don't care how small he is and how much he might struggle defensively. He was the only D on the ice tonight who could make a clean pass to up ice. He also made a number of really great reads pinching down the walls and keeping pucks in the zone to continue possession.

Here's the thing with X's and O's -- hockey isn't that complicated. Hot take, I know, but it's really not.

It's not like football or soccer where teams play radically different positional formations and have different objectives during play. Fundamentally, every hockey team that's ever taken the ice runs 2 defenseman and 3 forwards, and forechecks.

That's why I lean towards the idea that this is a feature, not a bug. They think they'll win this way, and they have since Lundqvist debuted.

Any Spring now, Hank Igor's gonna get hot and take us all the way.

 

[Chaels Arms]

I honestly think there's something wrong with Panarin physically. His first year with the team he was still excellent at 5v5. Then last season there was some leakage and now he's a negative more often than he's not.

It's the Strome influence.

Every game that he gets to play NHL shinny with Strome those tendencies will continue to get worse.