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Kovalev27 said:
I sincerely have to put some real thought into how good Karl Henriksson is now. I mean that. These two kids Raymond and Holtz just terrorized them WJC last year. I expected them to dominate this year. They BOTH always credit Henriksson as the reason they have success as a line. It’s very obvious they miss him badly.
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I still am a big Raymond fan but who would have thought Henriksson was the cant miss player on that line :sarcasm:
 
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Kovalev27 said:
I sincerely have to put some real thought into how good Karl Henriksson is now. I mean that. These two kids Raymond and Holtz just terrorized them WJC last year. I expected them to dominate this year. They BOTH always credit Henriksson as the reason they have success as a line. It’s very obvious they miss him badly.
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This is for sure true about the international tournaments. However, Raymond plays on a different line than Henriksson this year at Frolunda and has 12 points in 22 SHL games (at 18). Holtz has 13 in 19 this year, of course also at age 18. They've always done well when centered by him in international play, but are doing quite well without him in the SHL this year.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
This is for sure true about the international tournaments. However, Raymond plays on a different line than Henriksson this year at Frolunda and has 12 points in 22 SHL games (at 18). Holtz has 13 in 19 this year, of course also at age 18. They've always done well when centered by him in international play, but are doing quite well without him in the SHL this year.
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It reminds me a lot of the Finnish top line in 2016 in Finland's u20 four nations games with Laine, Puljujarvi and Aho, where the wingers were the clear stars and the center was more a complimentary piece.

Like Aho, Henriksson was a year older than his wingers.

He turns 20 next month and production is definitely an issue for Henriksson in pro hockey so far. Aho at this stage of his career put up 49 points in the NHL so that's where the comparison ends
 
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I miss when international hockey was more competitive than it is now. For a period between 1990 and 2010 it seemed like any of the big 6 countries could win, and Slovakia and the Swiss often could be spoilers. You had the Czechs and Swedes win olympic gold, and the USA winning the 96 championships.

Now it's the Canada show just like the Soviet Union back in the day.
 
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Fitzy said:
I miss when international hockey was more competitive than it is now. For a period between 1990 and 2010 it seemed like any of the big 6 countries could win, and Slovakia and the Swiss often could be spoilers. You had the Czechs and Swedes win olympic gold, and the USA winning the 96 championships.

Now it's the Canada show just like the Soviet Union back in the day.
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Canada does have an advantage this year though not having to quarantine mere days before the tournament starts. If anything, the era you mention was more lopsided with Canada in 8 consecutive finals, winning 5, between 2002 and 2009
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
So Henriksson is the sugar, while Holtz is the flavour and Raymond is the straw
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Holtz is the shot.

With the right mix, the drink goes down easy and gives you a nice buzz. Wrong mix? You're spending your entire night puking all over the place and crying about the cat you never had before waking up half naked on the street next to a Times Square panhandler dressed like a budget version of Big Bird.
 
Uninstaaled said:
side note: The poster PB excuse train for Alex "best player in the 2019 draft" Turcotte on the MB is hilarious.

Great way to start off 2021 in this place.
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Man I remember when he said that. I wish the dude would post here again. He abandoned the board after blocking us.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
Imagine having a skin so thin you don't come on a board but also being so self unaware that you think it's the board and not you.
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He's the definition of a human echo chamber. Blocks anyone who disagrees with him, and then thinks he's an expert because the few remaining members agree with whatever he says

I cannot remember which game it was but he was talking about a Russia u20 game he claimed he watched a few years ago, which wasn't televised. When someone pointed it out, he called the guy a troll :laugh:
 
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Turcotte definitely doesn't look like a 1st line guy. All that while Zegras looks like the can't miss #1 center in the making. His composure with the puck and skill reminds me a little of how Eichel looked coming into the league.

Before moving up in the lotto I remember we had serious discussions about Zegras and Newhook as options where the Rangers would have picked. Turns out, I don't think either player would have been the wrong pick. Anaheim and Colorado (smh) sure have potential 1Cs with these two.
 
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JimmyG89 said:
Turcotte definitely doesn't look like a 1st line guy. All that while Zegras looks like the can't miss #1 center in the making. His composure with the puck and skill reminds me a little of how Eichel looked coming into the league.

Before moving up in the lotto I remember we had serious discussions about Zegras and Newhook as options where the Rangers would have picked. Turns out, I don't think either player would have been the wrong pick. Anaheim and Colorado (smh) sure have potential 1Cs with these two.
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About time they drafted a decent player outside the top-10. It's been a decade
 
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JimmyG89 said:
Turcotte definitely doesn't look like a 1st line guy. All that while Zegras looks like the can't miss #1 center in the making. His composure with the puck and skill reminds me a little of how Eichel looked coming into the league.

Before moving up in the lotto I remember we had serious discussions about Zegras and Newhook as options where the Rangers would have picked. Turns out, I don't think either player would have been the wrong pick. Anaheim and Colorado (smh) sure have potential 1Cs with these two.
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I think Zegras is going to be a top line center, but Newhook imo is going to be a very good third line center. Like a plus version of Dom Moore. Zegras has both the shot, hand skills, and foresight to be an elite playmaker. Remember, this board voted for Mavrik Bourque too.

What happens is you have a slot in the NHL line-up that is perceived to not be filled, and you don't have a prospect that can come up... add in a whipping boy (Strome), 18 months of posts on the same topic... the need for that 2nd line center at the NHL level and the prospect level drives conversation around said need.

If the Rangers didn't win the lotto in 2019, Zegras was within the range of where they would have picked, same with Newhook. Parity at the NHL level saw to it that expectations were in that high top 10 to mid teen range, where Zegras & Newhook were ranked for the 2019 draft. Thus more chatter. Same thing occurs this year, see Hendrix. Hype around Hendrix drives the votes above where the Rangers 2nd pick was. He goes off the board. Board votes for the next 2nd line center need pick in Bourque.
 
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JimmyG89 said:
Turcotte definitely doesn't look like a 1st line guy. All that while Zegras looks like the can't miss #1 center in the making. His composure with the puck and skill reminds me a little of how Eichel looked coming into the league.

Before moving up in the lotto I remember we had serious discussions about Zegras and Newhook as options where the Rangers would have picked. Turns out, I don't think either player would have been the wrong pick. Anaheim and Colorado (smh) sure have potential 1Cs with these two.
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We always take the bust when we were high on the steal of the draft and narrowly miss them :laugh: same with when we took Andersson after missing Pettersson
 
Trouba better live up to his contract because Heinola looks like a Q. Hughes lite and Tomasino and McMichael look like A prospects.
 
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