Weekes: Along with The Devils, significant interest on Meier are coming from Vegas, Toronto, Carolina

[sticker76]

Something to keep in mind is that the Devils only have a projected $2 million in cap space at deadline. Then if they qualify him at 10 or even sign him to long term deal, you also have to pay Bratt who is RFA, plus you only have 5 other forwards signed (lots of UFA/RFA) , only 4 D signed and 1 G. Obvioulsy they may have young guys to play next year, but a lot of money to shell out and already about 50M committed. Bratt and Meier will both be at least 8+, then you are already over 65 and have to sign about 4-6 F, 2 D and 1 G for about 15 million. Not saying it can't be done, but getting Meier, pending what woudl go back could cause problems for next year's roster in NJ.

 

[notbias]

If he's not a rental how they gonna fit him next year......

Even if they signed his QO at 10 million, they can.

Not a great lineup, but they can make it work, and have some flexibility for upgrades.

I re-signed Holmberg and Anderson at 1.2 million each, which is an overpayment.

Meier is at 10 million.

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Meier - Holmberg - Jarnkrok
McMann - Steeves - Anderson

Rielly - Brodie
Sandin - Liljegren
Gio - Timmins

Murray
Woll

2.5 million in cap space.

 

[Accelleratii]

I don't see how he doesn't land in the Metro.. After Rags get Tarasenko, Horvat with the Isles, it's an arms race now.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Horvat set the market

I doubt SJ gets a better offer than

-A potential 1st round pick from a non-playoff team/ unprotected next year
-top prospect
-young roster player that can be flipped for more assets in the future

 

[HBK27]

Something to keep in mind is that the Devils only have a projected $2 million in cap space at deadline. Then if they qualify him at 10 or even sign him to long term deal, you also have to pay Bratt who is RFA, plus you only have 5 other forwards signed (lots of UFA/RFA) , only 4 D signed and 1 G. Obvioulsy they may have young guys to play next year, but a lot of money to shell out and already about 50M committed. Bratt and Meier will both be at least 8+, then you are already over 65 and have to sign about 4-6 F, 2 D and 1 G for about 15 million. Not saying it can't be done, but getting Meier, pending what woudl go back could cause problems for next year's roster in NJ.

Devils would just have to include Andreas Johnsson in any deal ($2.275M buried cap hit but only $750K in salary this season and is a pending UFA) and have San Jose retain some salary on Meier to make the cap work for this season.

Luke Hughes will absolutely take one of the open D spots next season with Nemec/Bahl/Okhotiuk grabbing the other spot left vacated by Graves/Severson or maybe they sign a vet for cheap.

At forward, maybe the Devils bring back Tatar and/or Haula at similar cap hits, but they've also got some young players in Clarke, Foote & Thompson that should step in (plus Holtz, though many assume he's part of any Meier deal).

Schmid can step in as the backup. They can certainly make the numbers work for next season with both Bratt and Meier locked up long-term at $8M+ each.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

1st, 3rd, Jarvis, Morrow for an extended Meier

Lets get this over with!

Meier is great but no way Carolina will give a 1st + Morrow + Jarvis thats wayyy too much

 

[unicornpig]

Even if they signed his QO at 10 million, they can.

Not a great lineup, but they can make it work, and have some flexibility for upgrades.

I re-signed Holmberg and Anderson at 1.2 million each, which is an overpayment.

Meier is at 10 million.

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Meier - Holmberg - Jarnkrok
McMann - Steeves - Anderson

Rielly - Brodie
Sandin - Liljegren
Gio - Timmins

Murray
Woll

2.5 million in cap space.

Funny that you think you could get Mier without giving up knies

 

[Eggtimer]

Something to keep in mind is that the Devils only have a projected $2 million in cap space at deadline. Then if they qualify him at 10 or even sign him to long term deal, you also have to pay Bratt who is RFA, plus you only have 5 other forwards signed (lots of UFA/RFA) , only 4 D signed and 1 G. Obvioulsy they may have young guys to play next year, but a lot of money to shell out and already about 50M committed. Bratt and Meier will both be at least 8+, then you are already over 65 and have to sign about 4-6 F, 2 D and 1 G for about 15 million. Not saying it can't be done, but getting Meier, pending what woudl go back could cause problems for next year's roster in NJ.

Nope. Devils are fine next year amd can easily sign both Bratt and Meier at about 9mil each.
Lots of guys we don’t need that will walk. Severson Graves Wood Johnson Tatar Blackwood.
We have Luke ,Nemec , Zetterlund , Schmid , others to fill in those spots . We can retain some of those players as well if we want to.

 

[Smitty426]

It'd be a calculated risk to trade for Meier then trade him at a perceived loss. Different sport but I'm reminded of the Oakland A's trading prospect SS Addison Russell for starting pitcher Jeff Samardzija. Then after using Samardzija for those playoffs, Oakland dealt him for SS Marcus Semien (and Chris Bassitt). So for Oakland they essentially dealt Russell for Semien while getting Samardzija for a postseason run.

Let's say Vegas is looking at Meier as a rent + re-trade option. Conceptually, let's just say San Jose prefers Vegas' prospects to what the Devils are offering:

VGK: LW Timo Meier
SJS: C/LW Brendan Brisson, RD Kaedan Korczak, VGK 2023 1st, VGK 2024 1st

Vegas gets a run with Meier to replace Mark Stone for these playoffs. Then maybe at the draft, they could approach the Devils for a trade:

NJD: LW Timo Meier
VGK: LW Nolan Foote, LD Kevin Bahl, NJD 2023 1st, NJD 2024 2nd

Again, just more conceptual. If a team could trade package A for Meier then get back similar assets in package B, then it might be worth it.

Devs fans will take that

 

[notbias]

Funny that you think you could get Mier without giving up knies

In the trade, I gave up 3 1sts. Giving up Knies is fine.

Whoever is playing LW on the team for the top 3 lines will just be a passenger. The point was, they can make the cap work.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Cmon Leafs do us a solid and keep him out of the Metro

 

[Forge]

Something to keep in mind is that the Devils only have a projected $2 million in cap space at deadline. Then if they qualify him at 10 or even sign him to long term deal, you also have to pay Bratt who is RFA, plus you only have 5 other forwards signed (lots of UFA/RFA) , only 4 D signed and 1 G. Obvioulsy they may have young guys to play next year, but a lot of money to shell out and already about 50M committed. Bratt and Meier will both be at least 8+, then you are already over 65 and have to sign about 4-6 F, 2 D and 1 G for about 15 million. Not saying it can't be done, but getting Meier, pending what woudl go back could cause problems for next year's roster in NJ.

The devils probably send back Johnsson in any deal, so that mostly solves this year.

Beyond this year, the cap really isn't an "issue", though they will be a cap team. The expectation has always been that Hughes and Nemec step into the line up and fill out the defensive core next year, and both will count for less than 1M against the cap next year. Or it's Nemec staying in Utica and Bahl or Okhotiuk playing 7th D to Smith playing 3RD on his off side.

Assuming they move on from Blackwood, the second goalie spot is covered with Schmid, who is less than 1M. They are mostly just going to need to fill out the forward group and should have plenty of money for that.

The Devils will be overly reliant on prospects in some spots, but that was coming with or without Timo. The expectation has always been that Graves and Severson were going to return and they would be filled in by the prospects.. I wouldn't be surprised if a roster player like Rango is sent just to shave some money, I have mentioned that before, but the devils aren't in trouble or anything cap wise with Timo and Bratt locked up....at least not yet.

 

[Eggtimer]

Cmon Leafs do us a solid and keep him out of the Metro

 

[Brooklyndevil]

I've said it once, and i'll say it again. Meier will be a Devil and the Devils will be trading Mercer.

SJ is playing it smart and making the cost for Meir much for valuable. I fear now to get Meir we may have to include Mercer. I think it would be a mistake. What happens if Bratt decides too leave? That puts us in a very difficult position with our forward depth, even with Meir. I rather give up Nemec than Mercer.

 

[Nakawick]

Is there anyone that the leafs are not interested in? The leafs are the hoes of the NHL trade deadline.

 

[Stickpucker]

I don't get it...doesn't toronto have enough firepower and high $$ forwards as is?

 

[Forge]

I don't get it...doesn't toronto have enough firepower and high $$ forwards as is?

Lets be real...it hasn't been the defense letting them down in the playoffs lately

 

[The Crypto Guy]

SJ is playing it smart and making the cost for Meir much for valuable. I fear now to get Meir we may have to include Mercer. I think it would be a mistake. What happens if Bratt decides too leave? That puts us in a very difficult position with our forward depth, even with Meir.

Eh, but if Bratt leaves (which I don't think he does, he's playing for a team that will be contenders VERY soon and for the next foreseeable future), then that would still put them with just Mercer. If the trade happens you have just Meire.

It's definitely a tough choice, but Meier is still pretty young himself, and if you lock him up for 7-8 years at 26 then you get getting a top line player in his prime for 4-5 years. Who I think could have multiple 90 point seasons if Hughes is his center <<shudder>>

Like you said, SJ is playing this smart and will make sure they get the best possible deal. Or they could wait too long like the Rangers did with McD and screw themself to a bad trade at 3pm.

 

[centipede2233]

Knies and 1st for Karlsson and Meier, get ready done dubie! LTIR matthews and taveras until the playoffs!

 

[Forge]

SJ is playing it smart and making the cost for Meir much for valuable. I fear now to get Meir we may have to include Mercer. I think it would be a mistake. What happens if Bratt decides too leave? That puts us in a very difficult position with our forward depth, even with Meir.

I don't think that people get how much value Mercer would have because of the contract. Think of the returns of guys like Hagel and Coleman. Mercer would have a ton of value put out on the trade market.

 

[Stickpucker]

Knies and 1st for Karlsson and Meier, get ready done dubie! LTIR matthews and taveras until the playoffs!

ohhh man the sharks fans are going to eat you up....

chum in the water.

 

[Pavelski2112]

ohhh man the sharks fans are going to eat you up....

chum in the water.

Honestly not even worth the effort

 

[Stickpucker]

I don't think that people get how much value Mercer would have because of the contract. Think of the returns of guys like Hagel and Coleman. Mercer would have a ton of value put out on the trade market.

send Mercer to Carolina and use the package as part of the Meier return.

 

[13pacheco31]

I don't get it...doesn't toronto have enough firepower and high $$ forwards as is?

Need someone to play left wing with Tavares and Marner. Not necessarily a big scorer but someone better than jarnkrok

 

[Patty Ice]

How does Vegas have the assets/money to be in on everyone

The ask should be every single good young asset they have plus 3 consecutive first round picks.