GDT: All things training camp

[surixon]

Sounds like that might be a lot of minutes for those 2 - not sure if that makes sense.

Yeah, it's going to be hard to play "aggressive" if they are playing lots of minutes in all situations.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838641125109932037

I'm assuming he meant he won't play tomorrow.

 

[LowLefty]

Stanley-Miller, which is only one or 2 games as a sample.

Yeah, I was going to say, not much of a sample for the coach to latch onto - I'd give it another look

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

If that is the case then I expect to see some more balance in terms of 5 on 5 ice distribution. I don't want Mark playing 23 minutes a game if he is also getting PK time.

Well, if he's not very good at it, PK might only add a few seconds to his total TOI.

 

[voyageur]

Yeah, it's going to be hard to play "aggressive" if they are playing lots of minutes in all situations.

PP is gravy time. But there seems to be a push to have 2 top six, 2 bottom six lines that can compete for ES playing time. That might balance minutes efficiently.

I think it makes sense, you get into a penalty string you don't want to ice your best players, and sounds like he wants the skill taking chances on the PK...Connor had a good run before on the PK. Scheif has never been good at it. But he's potentially the only RHC who coaches would want taking d-zone draws, if Kupari doesn't make the cut.

 

[surixon]

PP is gravy time. But there seems to be a push to have 2 top six, 2 bottom six lines that can compete for playing ES playing time. That might balance minutes efficiently.

I think it makes sense, you get into a penalty string you don't want to ice your best players, and sounds like he wants the skill taking chances on the PK...Connor had a good run before on the PK. Scheif has never been good at it. But he's potentially the only RHC who coaches would want taking d-zone draws, if Kupari doesn't make the cut.

We've seen both KC and Mark stop moving their feet later in games and the year as they take extended shifts with their current deployment.

I hope the mantra is short and hard shifts if we want to play an aggressive game.

I have no issue with them killing penalties as long as their total minutes are managed so that they are fresh throughout the year.

We need more balanced distributions so that the team is able to have something in the tank for playoffs.

 

[ICdave]

Day 6 player media:

 

[Huffer]

If that is the case then I expect to see some more balance in terms of 5 on 5 ice distribution. I don't want Mark playing 23 minutes a game if he is also getting PK time.

May not be the case (and we're not even out of TC lol), but when I saw that quote about the skill guys playing more PK, one thing I was thinking is that maybe that opens the door to not have to use your 4th line to have guys like AJF, Gus, etc, and maybe they can start to use guys like Lambert and Chibrikov (eventually) there because maybe that 4th line could get more minutes and more offensive minutes to help spell off the top 6 guys playing on the PK.

 

[Weezeric]

We've seen both KC and Mark stop moving their feet later in games and the year as they take extended shifts with their current deployment.

I hope the mantra is short and hard shifts if we want to play an aggressive game.

I have no issue with them killing penalties as long as their total minutes are managed so that they are fresh throughout the year.

We need more balanced distributions so that the team is able to have something in the tank for playoffs.

Absolutely agree with this. If the six PKers are Lowry, Appleton, Barron, Iafallo, Scheifele and Connor, that should mean more 5v5 minutes for everyone else.

 

[surixon]

May not be the case (and we're not even out of TC lol), but when I saw that quote about the skill guys playing more PK, one thing I was thinking is that maybe that opens the door to not have to use your 4th line to have guys like AJF, Gus, etc, and maybe they can start to use guys like Lambert and Chibrikov (eventually) there because maybe that 4th line could get more minutes and more offensive minutes to help spell off the top 6 guys playing on the PK.

Interesting thought. The have had Chibrikov with Namestnikov a lot and Lambert was 2C today so you might be onto something in terms of the long term plan.

The Jets have too many established vets on sizable deals to break camp that way though.

 

[ICdave]

Coach on day 6:

 

[voyageur]

May not be the case (and we're not even out of TC lol), but when I saw that quote about the skill guys playing more PK, one thing I was thinking is that maybe that opens the door to not have to use your 4th line to have guys like AJF, Gus, etc, and maybe they can start to use guys like Lambert and Chibrikov (eventually) there because maybe that 4th line could get more minutes and more offensive minutes to help spell off the top 6 guys playing on the PK.

I think that's a natural occurrence to Lambert playing 2C...I don't think there was anything impressive about Namestnikov's 1st game at 2C, albeit with less talent (Chibrikov and Appleton), but against less talent. Kupari's 1st preseason game was uninspiring. Against less talented players. You might come down to a Barron/Gustafsson battle for 4C in TC, if Lambert sticks.

I think the fact the Jets have given up 3 PP goals already in preseason might have the effect you state. Get more all around skill, let your best players have an impact in all facets of the game.

 

[voyageur]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838594347358462290

I was surprised Julien got sent to junior but Dale Hunter might have made the call for him.

And the Moose top 9 looks set

Something like

Chibrikov-Toninato-Lucius (I think Chibrikov is one of the last cuts)
Torgersson-Zhilkin-AJF
JAD-Shaw-Ford

with Suess, Nikkanen and King as the 4th line?

Torgersson, Ford and Lundmark stuck around from the B group. Milic too. See how long they last.

 

[Bender Duster]

I normally don't follow the OHL too much but with the Jets now having some exciting prospects in that league I think I'll be following a little more closely.

I thought He looked good throughout camp. I think Julien will take another step this year. He looked good in the OHL playoffs last year and London usually has a dominant team. I'm also interested to see how much Walton grows his game this year.

On the guys Moose bound - I thought Anhorn showed pretty well during camp. He could earn a big role on the Moose if he keeps his game up. Kind of thought they'd keep Lucius around a little longer just to grow his confidence a little, but I guess Moose camp will get him more reps. As long as he doesn't get hit by a puck or anything...

 

[GeorgeJETson]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838625903988879543

Did Murat steal the phrase power kill from us, or was it the other way around???

 

[surixon]

I normally don't follow the OHL too much but with the Jets now having some exciting prospects in that league I think I'll be following a little more closely.

I thought He looked good throughout camp. I think Julien will take another step this year. He looked good in the OHL playoffs last year and London usually has a dominant team. I'm also interested to see how much Walton grows his game this year.

On the guys Moose bound - I thought Anhorn showed pretty well during camp. He could earn a big role on the Moose if he keeps his game up. Kind of thought they'd keep Lucius around a little longer just to grow his confidence a little, but I guess Moose camp will get him more reps. As long as he doesn't get hit by a puck or anything...

They didn't even give Lucius a game, wonder if he's still not cleared to play.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

So Schief and KFC will be together on the PK.

Helle will have his work cut out for him.

 

[Bender Duster]

So Schief and KFC will be together on the PK.

Helle will have his work cut out for him.
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Uh-oh...a Helle likeness in a Habs jersey. Is this where hoards of Habs fans start saying a trade is imminent and offering us a B- level prospect and second round pick in return?

 

[voyageur]

So Schief and KFC will be together on the PK.

Helle will have his work cut out for him.
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Not necessarily. I don't have the stats but with the rules where teams pick sides, Adam Lowry almost always has to take weak side draws, and that's not a strength of his. I'm sure the numbers are quite different, from side to side. Arniel talked about Scheif maybe getting out on the first PK, to take those draws. The last time the Jets PK was in the upper half of the league Stenlund was taking those draws on his strong side, and winning a lot of them. It would be nice if Appleton, who was a C, improved on the draw, to help out there, but Scheif might be the first option, until the kids like Lambert or Yager get confidence from the coach. If I took anything away from that interview, Rasmus Kupari has an opportunity this year to have an impact, but the fact he wasn't mentioned at all, makes me wonder if the coaches aren't too happy so far with his play.

 

[Buffdog]

I recall Connor killing penalties in the past couple of years. I can't recall if he was any good at it though

 

[voyageur]

I normally don't follow the OHL too much but with the Jets now having some exciting prospects in that league I think I'll be following a little more closely.

I thought He looked good throughout camp. I think Julien will take another step this year. He looked good in the OHL playoffs last year and London usually has a dominant team. I'm also interested to see how much Walton grows his game this year.

On the guys Moose bound - I thought Anhorn showed pretty well during camp. He could earn a big role on the Moose if he keeps his game up. Kind of thought they'd keep Lucius around a little longer just to grow his confidence a little, but I guess Moose camp will get him more reps. As long as he doesn't get hit by a puck or anything...

Barlow should be back in the OHL after this week too.

By the looks of the roster now, with 23 forwards, 12 d-men, 5 goalies left, and an injured Heinola, The Jets probably send two different squads out this week, one that stays home, and one that goes on the road. Wouldn't be surprised if Lambert is the only guy to play both games, as he is getting the most evaluation in this TC. Probably be down to 30 players for the last week of TC.

 

[voyageur]

I recall Connor killing penalties in the past couple of years. I can't recall if he was any good at it though

Copp and Connor were good together.

 

[jungles]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838639724120150127

Or...and this is crazy....replace the slugs we have with more players that have offensive instincts. Then anyone can PK!

 

[surixon]

Barlow should be back in the OHL after this week too.

By the looks of the roster now, with 23 forwards, 12 d-men, 5 goalies left, and an injured Heinola, The Jets probably send two different squads out this week, one that stays home, and one that goes on the road. Wouldn't be surprised if Lambert is the only guy to play both games, as he is getting the most evaluation in this TC. Probably be down to 30 players for the last week of TC.

My expectation is that Lambert will play all the remaining games. That is what the org likes to do with players on the cusp of making it.

 

[Buffdog]

My expectation is that Lambert will play all the remaining games. That is what the org likes to do with players on the cusp of making it.

That way they can say "hey, we gave him a chance" lol

 

[Thechozen1]

I like the idea of having more of an offensive threat, but with the possibility of PK duties for Connor and Scheif, I’m predicting one of them blocks a shot on their foot and misses substantial time.