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Human Bean said:
Winning all the tournaments when the officials are all from your country isn't really helping your argument. Lets just imagine if instead of Canadian refs it were Russians and the Russians had won all those tournaments. I sure no one in Canada would be questioning that at all. :popcorn:
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Nope. You didn't respond to what was said

8 of 12 best-on-best Championships. 4 of the last 5. On both sides of the Atlantic. On big and small ice.

That's what I thought. Excuses starting already eh?
 
matsqq said:
I gave you something way better than an individual example.

(An individual example can always be said to be one in a thousand or whatever, or you can have another opinion on it, or give me a counter examples etc.)

I gave you a link to a scientific study that stated the number one reason home teams won more in sports is "referee bias".

So this is a phenomenon that do exist !

In my opinion it holds more weight than when you as a canadian state that canadian referees are somehow immune to bias when Canada plays another team in an important game ...

PS And just after that you prove my point by saying that an american referee tried to favour USA, but I should trust your word that a Canadian would never do the same.
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Home teams win more. Fact (according to your scientific study)


Canada won in the US, in Russia in the past Olympic best on best tournaments. Shouldn't the US and Russia have won those tournaments? How did the away team Canada manage to destroy these home teams?

Any other excuses?
 
Caitlyn Jenner said:
Home teams win more
Canada won in the US, in Russia in the past Olympic best on best tournaments. Any other excuses?
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Did you somehow think that my argument was about Canada not being the best ice hockey team in the world?

I'm sorry but I don't think you understood what I said ...
 
Canada, wow.


So cool, so gifted, so skilled, so tough as nails.

Any Canadian hockey player could head out to Manhattan and score any girl he pleases.

Just can't handle that canuck charm.
 
matsqq said:
Did you somehow think that my argument was about Canada not being the best ice hockey team in the world?

I'm sorry but I don't think you understood what I said ...
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So why is it so hard for people to believe that (as you stated, "the best hockey country in the world") wins because they are the best, not because if refs?
 
Wait is the nhl against canada because we couldn't pick our best players or rigging the tourny for them because of the refs. People are really looking for anything to try and hate this tourney.
 
Karjala takaisin said:
How would you feel if every major tournament was hosted by Russia with Russian referees?
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Id be upset because Russia has shown in the past year to have questionable regard for honesty when it comes to fair play and gamesmanship across a wide variety of sports and competition levels.

Show me where Canada has had its entire Olympic program under review for doping or an entire national team of any level suspended for doping.

So is a stretch to think that Russian officials might not be the best choice in an international competition?

Russia was a bad choice of an arguement though, if you'd said Finnish or Swedish or American coaches I'd of been fine with them, as long as the officials had experience with the NHL rule book and NHL sized ice.
 
Human Bean said:
IIHF WHC are not best on best.

Olympics use NHL (Canadian) refs, at least in the medal rounds.
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.... not best on best mostly because canada and expecially the states don't take the tourney seriously so canada winning is even more impressive. Sure everyone misses players due to people in the playoffs but most of the Europeans go over as soon as they are eliminated/don't make it
 
matsqq said:
I gave you something way better than an individual example.

(An individual example can always be said to be one in a thousand or whatever, or you can have another opinion on it, or give me a counter examples etc.)

I gave you a link to a scientific study that stated the number one reason home teams won more in sports is "referee bias".

So this is a phenomenon that do exist !

In my opinion it holds more weight than when you as a canadian state that canadian referees are somehow immune to bias when Canada plays another team in an important game ...

PS And just after that you prove my point by saying that an american referee tried to favour USA, but I should trust your word that a Canadian would never do the same.
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You continue to ignore the posts asking why Canada has won when they are not playing at home. You spout a bunch of BS (outside of one link) and ignore fact. So far your posts hold no water.
 
Human Bean said:
Winning all the tournaments when the officials are all from your country isn't really helping your argument. Lets just imagine if instead of Canadian refs it were Russians and the Russians had won all those tournaments. I'm sure no one in Canada would be questioning that at all. :popcorn:

Fact is Canadians have only dominated these best on best championships since inserting their own officials into them.
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If Russia had better refs and better players they would be winning more often.
 
Balance said:
Is this not a problem? There has been numerous competitions in hockey wherein Canada has gotten the advantage because of the refs (which is why they have won so many competitions)

How can we not expect these refs to be biased in favor of Canada? In other world competitions there would never be the refs of the same country officiating all of the games. It just screams of corruption.
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hahahahhahahah omg i cant stop , r u being serious ???? LOL

its not like Canada could ice 10 teams and those ten would place top 10 in the world, oh wait .... im sorry u guys cant beat us , im sure the refs are the reason
 
One of many details why this tournament should be seen as a NHL tournament rather than a real World Cup. Its just a fun event with some skilled players to watch. I wouldnt put the same amount of stock in it as the Olympics for example.
 
This pc/conspiracy agenda needs to stop. The best people should be hired for a job, regardless of gender/race/nationality, there should never be a quota for each type of person. If Canadian refs are the best they can find; then they should be chosen.

You made the claim that Canadien refs are helping Canada win... where's your proof? This entire thread is meaningless and baseless without evidence. You made a huge claim, but made zero attempt to even research or put together a decent argument.
 
matsqq said:
Yes Canadians is the exception ! Bias do not exist in Canadians !

(by a coincidence you are a canadian saying this, but since you are a candian there is no bias )

I rest my case and withdraw from this discussion to see some hockey, you have already proved my point better than I could myself :)
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You completely avoided questions myself, and multiple other posters have asked you with regards to your scientific study

How did the AWAY team Canada manage to win multiple best on best tournaments in RUSSIA and the US? Especially considering SCIENCE has proven that those home teams should have won
 
matsqq said:
Yes Canadians is the exception ! Bias do not exist in Canadians !

(by a coincidence you are a canadian saying this, but since you are a candian there is no bias )

I rest my case and withdraw from this discussion to see some hockey, you have already proved my point better than I could myself :)
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The fact you keep skipping over the question says volumes.

Enjoy the games. :)
 
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