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This thread is just silly. People throwing accusations around but nobody can provide a shred of evidence aside from "87...duur" It was almost 30 years ago.

Yeah I'm sure Canada only wins because of the refs....
 
Paxton Fettel said:
It happened once, it can happen again.

If you ask Fetisov, he'll tell you it was biased in Salt Lake City in 02. I've also seen some questionable officiating against Russia in 96, but none of that compares to 87 of course.
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When were the refs ever biased for Canada in Salt Lake City :laugh:
When they didn't give a penalty for the Czech player trying to separate Fleury's lower and upper body? :laugh:
 
Confucius said:
Imagine that Bettman and the NHL stacking the deck for Canada....

Lol.
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And yet they STILL missed the playoffs, and can't win a cup. SMH. That's why he ensured that the reffing would help change the tourney in Canada's favour. They are really lagging behind. How else could they make it out of a division with USA/Europe/Czechzia?
 
Balance said:
Is this not a problem? There has been numerous competitions in hockey wherein Canada has gotten the advantage because of the refs (which is why they have won so many competitions)

How can we not expect these refs to be biased in favor of Canada? In other world competitions there would never be the refs of the same country officiating all of the games. It just screams of corruption.
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The refs won't be biased to Canada at all. If anything they'll call more penalties on Canada to make sure they don't appear to be favouring Canada.
 
Well here you guy folks, The European teams have already decided they can't match up so they are setting the stage early for their inevitable knock out.

Quite typical.
 
Big Phil said:
Can you give some examples? It is getting to the point where people should be running out of ideas for this stuff. Canada won in 1972 in a very hostile environment specifically geared to help them lose. Then 4 out of 5 of the Canada Cups. Then the last 4 out of 5 best on best tournaments. The last two World Championships.................shall we go on? 2014 was in Sochi, Russia. Where was this geared for Canada to win? They win on big ice, they win on small ice. They win at home and on the other side of the globe. It is just me or is it more of a trend that Canada wins because they are usually the best team?[/QUOTE]

You would think at some point they would realize this.
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If they favour Team Canada the way refs favour Canada's Team then Team Canada should be worried. Especially against Team USA and Gary.
 
Um.. one of the Finland pre-lims had a Finnish referee instantly call back a goal against Finland. Seemed sketchy because the player in front of the net was nowhere near the goalie.
 
Love it when Canadians ridicule this concern ...

Imagine if russians ruled world hockey and you (canadians) were concerned all referees were from Russia and got these answers.

Stating russian referees are the best, they are so professional etc etc.
Let me assure you, you would NOT be completely satisfied with those answers.

Your answers are in fact proof that bias exists ...

And not even referees are immune to bias.

Check this link:
Referees are biased in favor of home teams—FACT
http://review.chicagobooth.edu/magazine/spring-2014/home-field-advantage-the-facts-and-the-fiction

Imagine that a swede is tripped in the end of a final against Canada in a 50-50 situation when the score is 5-5.
The refs will live with this decision for the rest of their lifes in Canada.
I would definitely want a referee from another country than Canada, and in your heart you Canadians would not want a russian referee in a game against Russia.

Some of you seem to think that Canadians are the perfect specimen of the human race. Completely unbiased and perfect in every way.

I think it might be because you win most international hockey tournaments. (BTW The reason for that is that you have way more hockey players than all other countries, not because you are genetically superior)
 
:dunno:

8 of 12 best-on-best Championships. 4 of the last 5. Won on big ice, small ice and on both sides of the Atlantic.

All refs though right? Thanks for the laugh.
 
matsqq said:
Love it when Canadians ridicule this concern ...

Imagine if russians ruled world hockey and you (canadians) were concerned all referees were from Russia and got these answers.

Stating russian referees are the best, they are so professional etc etc.
Let me assure you, you would NOT be completely satisfied with those answers.

Your answers are in fact proof that bias exists ...

And not even referees are immune to bias.

Check this link:
Referees are biased in favor of home teams—FACT
http://review.chicagobooth.edu/magazine/spring-2014/home-field-advantage-the-facts-and-the-fiction

Imagine that a swede is tripped in the end of a final against Canada in a 50-50 situation when the score is 5-5.
The refs will live with this decision for the rest of their lifes in Canada.
I would definitely want a referee from another country than Canada, and in your heart you Canadians would not want a russian referee in a game against Russia.

Some of you seem to think that Canadians are the perfect specimen of the human race. Completely unbiased and perfect in every way.

I think it might be because you win most international hockey tournaments. (BTW The reason for that is that you have way more hockey players than all other countries, not because you are genetically superior)
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That will never happen.
 
matsqq said:
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Yet to see examples that Canadian refs favour Team Canada other then a game 30 years ago. Only time there's been a complete blatant bias in the 21st century for International Hockey is the 2002 Women's Gold Medal Game where the American ref did her best to screw over Canada. All-in-all though Canadian referee's are the most competent in the world.

But sure lets discredit all Canadian victories due to a perceived bias that can't be proven.
 
To be expected, and no big deal, the WCOH is using NHL officials. The pool of NHL officials is 80% Canadian. They're also going with a lineup of their more experienced officials--all of these guys have at least a dozen years in the NHL and most are 15+ years.

The better question would be which officials were not selected to the WCOH that folks think should have been.
 
I agree with the canadian posters here, there is no problem.

All canadians here would not mind the slightest if all the refs were changed to russian refs, amarite?
 
Doubtful it will be an issue but the optics aren't great.

And if Canada wins on the back of a questionable call it could be a problem.

I never bothered checking but I assume most refs in the NHL are Canadian and this is a tournament run by the NHL and played on small ice so there are decent reasons for the first iteration of this tourney for a lot of Canadian officials.

Definitely something they need to work on going forward however. Thing is, we're in a bit of the changing of the guard when it comes to refs in the NHL so the pool of quality refs is diminished.
 
Kitchener Boy said:
Hopefully we get the 1 non-Canadian ref in the finals.

Russia got 7 power plays last game. And a 5 on 3.
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This

It's actually proven that refs go out of their way to prove they aren't biased by calling the game in favour of the team that is playing against Canada. Canada has always had way more time spent on the penalty kill than they have on the power play

Give us international refs and it will help team Canada more than anything
 
Gigantor The Goalie said:
Yet to see examples that Canadian refs favour Team Canada other then a game 30 years ago. Only time there's been a complete blatant bias in the 21st century for International Hockey is the 2002 Women's Gold Medal Game where the American ref did her best to screw over Canada. All-in-all though Canadian referee's are the most competent in the world.

But sure lets discredit all Canadian victories due to a perceived bias that can't be proven.
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I gave you something way better than an individual example.

(An individual example can always be said to be one in a thousand or whatever, or you can have another opinion on it, or give me a counter examples etc.)

I gave you a link to a scientific study that stated the number one reason home teams won more in sports is "referee bias".

So this is a phenomenon that do exist !

In my opinion it holds more weight than when you as a canadian state that canadian referees are somehow immune to bias when Canada plays another team in an important game ...

PS And just after that you prove my point by saying that an american referee tried to favour USA, but I should trust your word that a Canadian would never do the same.
 
Caitlyn Jenner said:
I'm still waiting for a response to this.....

Anyone???
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Winning all the tournaments when the officials are all from your country isn't really helping your argument. Lets just imagine if instead of Canadian refs it were Russians and the Russians had won all those tournaments. I'm sure no one in Canada would be questioning that at all. :popcorn:

Fact is Canadians have only dominated these best on best championships since inserting their own officials into them.
 
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