All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XIII - the 23 deadline approaches

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I'm skeptical, shall we say, of publicly-available analytics, ESPECIALLY with an absolutely godawful Chicago team. I'm pretty sure that the Canes know what they're doing here.

Let’s not pretend that the management team doesn’t ignore yikes factors and take risky moves hoping they pay off. Taking risks doesn’t necessarily spell they know what they are doing. Just means they hope the odds land in their favor. Sometimes it does and other times it hasn’t

 

[raynman]

Our future boring deadline:
Nino Niederreiter @ 50% for Antoni Honka and CAR 2023 5th rounder

Only so Martinook can take his rightful place on Aho’s line.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Yikes

Its just me I guess

No one is arguing that Kane has good metrics this year. He hasn’t played well on a team that is god awful bad. It’s not hard to understand why he might not have been motivated for most of the year. The last few games he has looked fine… regular ish Patty Kane.

Had the primary assist on the game tying goal tonight with a minute left in regulation leading to a CBH win.

Maybe he’s turning it on at the right time for whichever team he decides to go to.

 

[Svechhammer]

Go for the full on attack toward our social media fans

Get Kane and Provorov at the deadline

 

[AD Skinner]

I have a feeling we're going to trade for Aaron Rodgers when he returns from the darkness.

Tom Dundon was the hat man all along

 

[The Faulker 27]

If it's truly a player not on anyone's radar it's probably not Kane. He's one of the biggest names swirling around this TDL. Besides he's a big market type player (see how butthurt he was over the Tarasenko trade). I can see him going to a team like Boston long before coming here.

If (hypothetically speaking) Carolina is a last resort type situation for him, I'd rather pass tbh. As @AD Skinner mentioned earlier, maintaining the chemistry of the team is important and Butthurt Kane doesn't sound like a healthy addition.

On a positive note If that's who their guy is, then I fully trust they've done their homework and will welcome the addition. He's a 50 ft player who can score goals and that is what they need.

 

[SvechneJerk]

If it's truly a player not on anyone's radar it's probably not Kane. He's one of the biggest names swirling around this TDL. Besides he's a big market type player (see how butthurt he was over the Tarasenko trade). I can see him going to a team like Boston long before coming here.

If (hypothetically speaking) Carolina is a last resort type situation for him, I'd rather pass tbh. As @AD Skinner mentioned earlier, maintaining the chemistry of the team is important and Butthurt Kane doesn't sound like a healthy addition.

On a positive note If that's who their guy is, then I fully trust they've done their homework and will welcome the addition. He's a 50 ft player who can score goals and that is what they need.

Conversely, he does feel like someone that holds a grudge & would be highly motivated to do what it takes to rip all the teams that might have passed on him, a new one.

Just an observation.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

If it's truly a player not on anyone's radar it's probably not Kane. He's one of the biggest names swirling around this TDL. Besides he's a big market type player (see how butthurt he was over the Tarasenko trade). I can see him going to a team like Boston long before coming here.

If (hypothetically speaking) Carolina is a last resort type situation for him, I'd rather pass tbh. As @AD Skinner mentioned earlier, maintaining the chemistry of the team is important and Butthurt Kane doesn't sound like a healthy addition.

On a positive note If that's who their guy is, then I fully trust they've done their homework and will welcome the addition. He's a 50 ft player who can score goals and that is what they need.

This has always been my feeling. He seems like a big market, O6 fanboy to me. BUT maybe as the game of musical chairs starts to wind down he reevaluates that. It also takes two to tango.

The urge to leave Chicago has to be stronger than his desire to only play for (insert team) for the move to happen.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Conversely, he does feel like someone that holds a grudge & would be highly motivated to do what it takes to rip all the teams that might have passed on him, a new one.

Just an observation.

Ok but we're second in the league. Are we desperate for a player that everyone else past on?

 

[SvechneJerk]

Ok but we're second in the league. Are we desperate for a player that everyone else past on?

My post wasn’t advocating for bringing him on. I can see both sides of it - his potential upside and the potential downside. Like I said, it was just an observation of him personally.

But who knows - I’m just some rando on the interwebs.

 

[Borsig]

I don't want kane coming in here and f***ing up our chemistry. He kind of seems like an arrogant douche from his interviews. Maybe I am wrong.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I don't want kane coming in here and f***ing up our chemistry. He kind of seems like an arrogant douche from his interviews. Maybe I am wrong.

Yeah… but he’s got that swagger and walks the walk playoff time. Our room might need that a bit. Generally speaking we have mostly nice guys that haven’t exactly lit it up in the playoffs when things have gotten tough

 

[The Faulker 27]

My post wasn’t advocating for bringing him on. I can see both sides of it - his potential upside and the potential downside. Like I said, it was just an observation of him personally.

But who knows - I’m just some rando on the interwebs.

I mean it's a valid point there's certainly 2 sides to it. As a rental if Kane is the desperate party in this scenario than that puts us in a better position to negotiate. If he's motivated than even better. It would also get the Canes more publicity if nothing else. I'm sure Tom Dundon wouldn't hate that.

 

[MinJaBen]

I’m pretty sure that the recent small sample size is true, and the larger historical sample is wrong.

 

[Borsig]

Gavrikov rumored to the Bruins.

 

[Svechhammer]

I'd be skeptical of Kane, but wouldn't hate it. He's got elite level offensive ability and would immediately make our forward lines more potent. You add him and our scoring punch on both of the top 2 lines it the caliber that should be dangerous against anyone in the playoffs.

But... my biggest worry is that he's apathetic defensively, and a step slow right now. Not sure he'd be able to consistently keep up with our speed over the stretch run and the playoffs.

 

[MadeUpName]

Go for the full on attack toward our social media fans

Get Kane and Provorov at the deadline

Hide your cabbies, hide your same-sex wives and hide your husbands because they triggering everyone out here

 

[Chrispy]

I'd be skeptical of Kane, but wouldn't hate it. He's got elite level offensive ability and would immediately make our forward lines more potent. You add him and our scoring punch on both of the top 2 lines it the caliber that should be dangerous against anyone in the playoffs.

But... my biggest worry is that he's apathetic defensively, and a step slow right now. Not sure he'd be able to consistently keep up with our speed over the stretch run and the playoffs.

If he's having trouble with speed, put him with Kotkaniemi and Teravainen. Kane has played his off-wing some as is, and that lets them set up Kane with less speed or defensive requirements on an offense-centered line.

Something like:
Svech-Aho-Necas
TT-Kotkaniemi-Kane (or flip these, either wing can go here)
Martinook-Staal-Fast
Noesen-Stastny-Jarvis

 

[MadeUpName]

I'd be skeptical of Kane, but wouldn't hate it. He's got elite level offensive ability and would immediately make our forward lines more potent. You add him and our scoring punch on both of the top 2 lines it the caliber that should be dangerous against anyone in the playoffs.

But... my biggest worry is that he's apathetic defensively, and a step slow right now. Not sure he'd be able to consistently keep up with our speed over the stretch run and the playoffs.

Kane seems like the biggest Dundon-driven add. He wants flash and offense. He wants a player that can win a game. Kane is that addition this deadline. But the choice is more with Kane himself than any interested party.

 

[spockBokk]

Wouldn’t mind Kane, as long as the price isn’t ridiculous. Don’t think he’d be willing to come to NC tho.

I bet they end up with JVR and/or Barbashev and someone like Kulikov

 

[The Faulker 27]

Luke Schenn scratched. Someone on Twitter said his wife is pregnant and due soon so could be that.

 

[Svechhammer]

If he's having trouble with speed, put him with Kotkaniemi and Teravainen. Kane has played his off-wing some as is, and that lets them set up Kane with less speed or defensive requirements on an offense-centered line.

Something like:
Svech-Aho-Necas
TT-Kotkaniemi-Kane (or flip these, either wing can go here)
Martinook-Staal-Fast
Noesen-Stastny-Jarvis

You know, these lines could be surprisingly potent, and probably similar to what we would roll in the playoffs, or at least what we should roll.

SAN would be offensively dominant, and would control play every time it was on the ice, as long as they stay hot.
TKK would be an interesting one to watch. It should work, but Turbo needs to step it up a bit to make it happen. Kotkaniemi would be a grinder with upper level passing that would mesh well with Kane.
MSF would be the elite checking line
NSJ would be a low key potent 4th line with Noesen and Jarvis. That one could put up a sneaky amount of points.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

If he's having trouble with speed, put him with Kotkaniemi and Teravainen. Kane has played his off-wing some as is, and that lets them set up Kane with less speed or defensive requirements on an offense-centered line.

Something like:
Svech-Aho-Necas
TT-Kotkaniemi-Kane (or flip these, either wing can go here)
Martinook-Staal-Fast
Noesen-Stastny-Jarvis

I think I'm more into this combo...

TT - Aho - Kane
Svech - JK - Necas
Martinook - Staal - Fast
Noesen - Stastny - Jarvis

The idea of TT - JK - Kane scares me. I don't think you have complimentary skillsets on that line. I feel like they would get caved and just not have good chemistry at all.

 

[spockBokk]

I think I'm more into this combo...

TT - Aho - Kane
Svech - JK - Necas
Martinook - Staal - Fast
Noesen - Stastny - Jarvis

The idea of TT - JK - Kane scares me. I don't think you have complimentary skillsets on that line. I feel like they would get caved and just not have good chemistry at all.

Wont happen, but imagine they pay up for Kane and Barbashev:

Svechnikov-Aho-Kane
Teravainen-Kotkaniemi-Necas
Barbashev-Staal-Fast
Martinook-Stastny-Jarvis
Stepan, Noesen

Kane takes Noesen’s spot on the PP

W/ Kane at 50% and Barbashev at just over $2M, that leaves $2-3M still for another depth D acquisition

Wont happen unless they do an about face on their stance on paying for rentals

 

[MadeUpName]

Wont happen, but imagine they pay up for Kane and Barbashev:

Svechnikov-Aho-Kane
Teravainen-Kotkaniemi-Necas
Barbashev-Staal-Fast
Martinook-Stastny-Jarvis
Stepan, Noesen

Kane takes Noesen’s spot on the PP

W/ Kane at 50% and Barbashev at just over $2M, that leaves $2-3M still for another depth D acquisition

Wont happen unless they do an about face on their stance on paying for rentals

I agree with stacking the top line. It feels like Kane needs Svechnikov on his line. I'm not sure TT-KK-PK can get it done vs Boston or TB.