All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XII - The UFA frenzy aftermath

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I don’t get it. Milano has never impressed me. Why should we try to acquire him? I didn’t watch as much of him in ANH, but was alway unimpressed.

Had pretty good analytics last year and put up .5ppg. Only 26. Pretty good fit for a slot at 3LW that is objectively open on our roster.

 

[SlavinAway]

Had pretty good analytics last year and put up .5ppg. Only 26. Pretty good fit for a slot at 3LW that is objectively open on our roster.

Was his QO really high?

 

[A Star is Burns]

Had pretty good analytics last year and put up .5ppg. Only 26. Pretty good fit for a slot at 3LW that is objectively open on our roster.

Pretty much this. And he is decent in a skill role if he needs to move up. Again, it's a secondary move in my mind if we make it, so he's a good fit for something like that to me.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Had pretty good analytics last year and put up .5ppg. Only 26. Pretty good fit for a slot at 3LW that is objectively open on our roster.

Ok. Seems odd that another team wouldn’t qualify him then. But like I said, I didn’t watch him much in Anaheim so was curious.

My take. Jordan made nestrasil and Nordstrom look good. If Milano comes cheap, he and Fast can probably make it work.

 

[AD Skinner]

No Warm Cotton Laf

I think you can get a 4 pack of those at Walmart

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think you can get a 4 pack of those at Walmart

Likely to be more polyester than cotton.

 

[ndp]

So they still have a guy that couldn’t beat out Brendan Smith if all options fall apart?

I’m not worried about it. As in prior years, they will make more moves.

Bear at 100% healthy should have played over Brendan Smith though, all day every day.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Ok. Seems odd that another team wouldn’t qualify him then. But like I said, I didn’t watch him much in Anaheim so was curious.

My take. Jordan made nestrasil and Nordstrom look good. If Milano comes cheap, he and Fast can probably make it work.

CapFriendly has already switched over to next year’s RFAs so I can’t really see the details of the QO - but based on his age I’d guess he was arbitration eligible and the team probably didn’t want to go that route.

 

[Chrispy]

CapFriendly has already switched over to next year’s RFAs so I can’t really see the details of the QO - but based on his age I’d guess he was arbitration eligible and the team probably didn’t want to go that route.

1.8M QO and yes arbitration eligible.

0.5 ppg last season (34 in 66 games), but by far his best NHL season with the next highest 22 points in 55 games.

 

[To Be Determined]

i want justin bailey just for the metroid references.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Bear at 100% healthy should have played over Brendan Smith though, all day every day.

How do we know he wasn’t healthy? There was no reports other than fans speculating.

I hope he succeeds, but I’m not convinced it was his health keeping him out of the lineup. He struggles whenever pressure is applied.

Either way, even if you accept he’s a better bottom pairing option, my point is that a bottom pairing option isn’t much of an insurance policy.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

How do we know he wasn’t healthy? There was no reports other than fans speculating.

I hope he succeeds, but I’m not convinced it was his health keeping him out of the lineup. He struggles whenever pressure is applied.

Either way, even if you accept he’s a better bottom pairing option, my point is that a bottom pairing option isn’t much of an insurance policy.

I think in his exit interview he talked explicitly about Covid impacting him, did he not?

 

[raynman]

I think in his exit interview he talked explicitly about Covid impacting him, did he not?

I think it was also said during the exit interviews that he was in a walking boot after having a minor surgery

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think in his exit interview he talked explicitly about Covid impacting him, did he not?

I’m sure it did, but for months to the point where he was worse than Smith? Long Covid is a thing, so maybe.

Still, people are missing my point. my point is I don’t think Bear is a viable back up plan for our top pairing RD should everything else fall through.

I don’t think the Csnes will let it come to that either.

 

[NotOpie]

The Bear situation is IMO insurance. Sure, they could get Klingberg, but they also probably won't and they'll still have Bear if all options fall apart.

Yeah, I don't think he's "on ice" insurance at all. He's pure trade bait with Carolina retaining a bit. That makes him more palatable. I've got to believe that, right now, unless something else pops up, Jalen Chatfield and Joey Keane are fighting it out for 3rd pair RHD.

Canes qualified Bear because they didn't want to lose an asset that they feel has value as part of a trade. The top 4 RHD is almost certainly coming in a trade IMO and may or may not be a PPQB. Gardiner will be given every chance to rehabilitate himself and take on that role, otherwise, he's likely traded as part of a package as well.....that's how I see this playing out today at 7:15 PM. Tomorrow's another day, though.

 

[DaveG]

I’m sure it did, but for months to the point where he was worse than Smith? Long Covid is a thing, so maybe.

Still, people are missing my point. my point is I don’t think Bear is a viable back up plan for our top pairing RD should everything else fall through.

I don’t think the Csnes will let it come to that either.

Right, I can see Bear back as RD3, and us rolling something like

Slavin - (UFA-Trade)/Pesce
Skjei - Pesce (UFA-Trade)
Gardner - Bear
Chatfield/Keane

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Right, I can see Bear back as RD3, and us rolling something like

Slavin - (UFA-Trade)/Pesce
Skjei - Pesce (UFA-Trade)
Gardner - Bear
Chatfield/Keane

Yep. And depending on who that UFA/Trade is, this could either be a perfectly average or exceptionally good group of 6 dmen.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Yep. And depending on who that UFA/Trade is, this could either be a perfectly average or exceptionally good group of 6 dmen.

I still could see Gardiner for Barrie as a buy-low and then the Canes getting someone really good for his role like Soucy for the bottom pair.

Slavin-Barrie
Skjei-Pesce
Soucy-Bear
Chatfield

Is a really solid group of 7 if Barrie rebounds next to Slavin.

If we're lucky enough to have Klingberg here for a year, maybe trade Gardiner to Arizona or Chicago as a pure cap dump and make these the pairings:

Slavin-Klingberg
Skjei-Pesce
Soucy-Bear
Chatfield

 

[WreckingCrew]

Gards-Bear has the potential to be an absolute disaster reminiscent of the dark decade. The big problem with QO Bear is that when he signs (he'd be dumb to turn down that contract)...if he plays like he did most of last year, he's immovable. Plus Chatfield deserves that spot more based on performance. Gards as 3LD is expensive, but might give us PP flexibility we've needed, he's not expected to be a top 4 guy. I dunno, this offseason so far isn't giving me any warm & fuzzies.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I don’t see the justification of paying Barrie 4.5 million when you would only pay TDA 3.5-4.

 

[NotOpie]

I still could see Gardiner for Barrie as a buy-low and then the Canes getting someone really good for his role like Soucy for the bottom pair.

Edmonton is almost assuredly on Gardiner's no trade list.

 

[spockBokk]

I’d welcome back Fleury on the 3rd pair:

 

[CandyCanes]

Im convinced we’ll end this offseason with one of these guys on the Canes.

P. Kane, Tank, Malkin, Giroux, Wheeler, Trocheck, or Kadri.

I think we could figure out one of those forwards and still bring in Klingberg too. But I’m overall doubtful we get him, he’s gonna get a nice contract from someone.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I’d welcome back Fleury on the 3rd pair:

Donato is my target. I would take Fleury on a cheap 1 year to be a 7D.

Im convinced we’ll end this offseason with one of these guys on the Canes.

P. Kane, Tank, Malkin, Giroux, Wheeler, Trocheck, or Kadri.

I think we could figure out one of those forwards and still bring in Klingberg too. But I’m overall doubtful we get him, he’s gonna get a nice contract from someone.

Trocheck and Kadri will not. Term will be too much.

 

[raynman]

Blues don’t have the cap space for Perron