All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XII - The UFA frenzy aftermath

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Changing it up a little bit, if VAN makes Demko available should the Hurricanes try and get in on that? Seems like more of an off-season move but if VAN is dead set on moving him at the deadline would the Hurricanes try and make a move?

Demko, Kochetkov tandem for the next three seasons would be pretty nice IMO.

I'm all for it, if only because Demkochetkov would be an amazing power couple name.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Who do folks see Jarvis as a comparable and what do they see as his ceiling? I think once you decide that you can decide if you would send him out for a player like Meier.

From a stature perspective he's smaller than the Jeff Skinner and Brayden Points of the league isn't he?

He may be a bit smaller but he plays pretty big and strong on the puck for his size. I think his upside is Brayden Point. Not extremely likely he reaches that upside but, like Necas last year, I don't want to give up on him just because of a bit of a sophomore slump this year so far. If we have to trade him in a package to get a legit superstar, so be it. But I do not think Meier is a legit superstar or ever will be.

 

[spockBokk]

Pageau? Say what now? (#4)

 

[User13452]

Pageau? Say what now? (#4)

Interesting. Islanders have 4 quality centres now I could see them moving him out but would they move him to a division rival?

 

[spockBokk]

Pageau is a righty whose excellent at faceoffs…

I don’t hate the idea as long as there’s another move to add scoring

 

[User13452]

Pageau is a righty whose excellent at faceoffs…

I don’t hate the idea as long as there’s another move to add scoring

Where does he fit he’s not really a second line Centre he’s more of a third so I’m not sure it makes total sense although I like Pageau I don’t see a fit right now

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

JGP would be another 3C to add to the bunch.

 

[Canes]

If true, Beauvillier probably amazed JR back when JR was with the Pens. And he probably thinks Raty is the next the Aho. And once JR likes a player, he stops at nothing to get them.

Never change, JR, never change.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Pageau? Say what now? (#4)

I don’t hate it, but he’s not a huge upgrade over Koko as the 2C.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Freidman says we were interested in Horvat but wouldnt do a deal without an extension.

 

[Canes]

Pageau makes zero sense for us. Almost less than zero sense if that's possible. Unless the Piles want to trade him with cap retention to us for nothing. He's not going to play in our top 6 if we're actually ambitious about winning and Staal line is basically locked in.

 

[DaveG]

Hard pass on Pageau. I like the guy as a player and if we didn't already have 2 3rd line centers I'd love the idea of a move on him.

Now if we want to talk about Brock Nelson on the other hand...

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

It'd make more sense if Kotkaniemi moved in a separate trade. In the absence of that, it's an inefficient distribution of cap across the C position. And they shouldn't squeeze Staal, potentially out of town, to make it work.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

It'd make more sense if Kotkaniemi moved in a separate trade. In the absence of that, it's an inefficient distribution of cap across the C position. And they shouldn't squeeze Staal, potentially out of town, to make it work.

This is part of the reason why I think that Henrique makes more sense than Pageau. At 50% retained (Islanders are not likely to retain on Pageau), the cap hit of $2.9M for 2 seasons would be small enough to not impact the ability to keep Staal.

 

[User13452]

This is part of the reason why I think that Henrique makes more sense than Pageau. At 50% retained (Islanders are not likely to retain on Pageau), the cap hit of $2.9M for 2 seasons would be small enough to not impact the ability to keep Staal.

I like Henrique but I think a bit more size and grit in the top 6 would be good aka O’Reilly

 

[Canes]

This is part of the reason why I think that Henrique makes more sense than Pageau. At 50% retained (Islanders are not likely to retain on Pageau), the cap hit of $2.9M for 2 seasons would be small enough to not impact the ability to keep Staal.

I'd be ok with Henrique at 50%. Give them one of our AHLers and call it a day. If they want more than that, laugh and hang up the phone.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Just go get a rental center we can live with price wise and blow our wad on Meier.

We could run it back with KK at 2C with an even deeper pool of wingers next year. Or we could go chasing a guy like PLD.

I'd be ok with Henrique at 50%. Give them one of our AHLers and call it a day. If they want more than that, laugh and hang up the phone.

??? It’ll be more expensive than that

 

[User13452]

Not sure Arizona would move him but Schmaltz would be a good pickup I believe they tried to get him from Chicago before.

 

[zman77]

Is Risto a good fit for the 'Canes?

Rasmus Ristolainen​

Position: D • Shoots: Right
6-4, 220lb (193cm, 99kg)
Team: Philadelphia Flyers
Born: October 27, 1994 (Age: 28-097d) in Turku, Finland
Draft: Buffalo, 1st round (8th overall), 2013 NHL Entry

Current salary: $4,000,000
Current cap hit: $5,100,000
Rasmus Ristolainen's salary is $4,000,000 and his cap hit is $5,100,000 for the 2022-23 season. He is a 28 year old defense who was born on Oct. 27, 1994. He was drafted 8th overall by the Buffalo Sabres in the 1st round of the 2013 entry draft. He has signed 3 contracts worth a total value of $63,225,000. Over a career that spans 10 seasons (with at least 1 NHL GP), he has a total 270 Pts in 652 GP. He will be a UFA at the end of the 2026-27 season when he is 32 years old.



Twitter: @rasmrist55

 

[the halleJOKEL]

lol no he is not

 

[MadeUpName]

Ristolainen is a good fit for the AHL and not much else

Carolina adding Meier + ROR to this team would be nasty. 4th line of Noesen/Stastny-Kotkaniemi-Jarvis could be top-6 elsewhere.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Ristolainen is a good fit for the AHL and not much else

Carolina adding Meier + ROR to this team would be nasty. 4th line of Noesen/Stastny-Kotkaniemi-Jarvis could be top-6 elsewhere.

No good team is going to have Noesen/Stastny-KK in their top 6. Even Jarvis is struggling as a top 6 in Carolina.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

No good team is going to have Noesen/Stastny-KK in their top 6. Even Jarvis is struggling as a top 6 in Carolina.

we are that good team

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

we are a good team

Correct, and Noesen/Statsny-KK-Jarvis isn't one of our top 6 lines, nor will they likely ever be. Nor are the individual players top 6 based on ES TOI/GP (except Jarvis), so my statement is valid. Noesen is a 4th liner almost all the time, Stastny and KK are guys that can't hold down a top 6 role. Jarvis is top 6, but not scoring like one. Thus why we all think we need another scorer / better 2C in the top 6.

ES TOI/GP ranking among forwards:

1. Necas
2. Aho
3. Staal
4. Svechnikov
5. Jarvis
6. Martinook
7. Fast
8. TT
9. KK (12:00 / game ESTOI)
10. Statny (10:36 / game ESTOI)
11. Noesen (9:07 / game ESTOI)

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

On another note: I still believe Toronto, while needing defense, will sell out to make it past the first round and overpay for ROR.