Really hard to assess Hronek, but his on-ice metrics have been really poor with almost every D partner except Quinn Hughes. A lot of that was with a struggling Red Wings team, but it's buyer beware with him. If he could complement Morrissey well on a top pair, that would have some value, but would he be an improvement on DeMelo in that role? I doubt it, and I'm not sure he could carry another D pair as the lead.
‘Really good chance’ Canucks trade Filip Hronek by the draft if two sides can’t agree on extension: report
The Vancouver Canucks have a <em>lot </em>of work to do this offseason...canucksarmy.com
Ill take one please.
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Agree, I don't think Hronek is a D you want to spend a lot of your cap on. Sure there is the whole "beggars can't be choosers" thing, but he is not strong defensively, and put up less goals this year than Brendan Dillon for an "offensive" defenseman.
Not the type of player you want to spend 7M+ on IMO.
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4 less goals then dillon with 31 more assists, he has 2 less goals but has 9 more points in 502 less games, dillon had a career year in goals, but hronek is hands down better offensively
If the Jets want to spend 7+ M on a RHD, then I'd rather overpay a really good UFA, that would cost no trade assets.
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My point is that Dillon isn't even thought of to get goals and still got more. Hronek played with Hughes all year, it's no surprise he got a ton of assists as that pair likely was matched up with their top lines. Hronek should absolutely be better offensively than Dillon. Dillon also played an average of 8 seconds on the PP a game and got 0 points on the PP, while Hronek played an average of 1:43 a game and got 11 points on the PP. The difference between the two is 17 points only looking at even strength. For a guy who is an offensive defenseman, he's not blowing away our "defensive defenseman". I only picked Dillon to represent the contrast.
He's also not all that good defensively. And some reports have him looking for 8M.
The Vancouver Canucks have 1 right handed defenseman that is signed for next season, and that's a 6th or 7th D man in Noah Juulsen. And they are not interested in signing Hronek to an 8M dollar extension.
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his seasons before going to vancouver
38 in 71
38 in 60
it's not just hughes, and just because he reportedly wants 8 million doesn't mean he will get 8 million, players always start high and teams always start low and they meet somewhere between, remember when buff's ask was reportedly 10 million? I never understand why people discredit powerplay production so much, like yes the game is mostly played 5v5 but being good on the power play isn't a negative and our pp play was awful most of the year
I think Samberg-Hronek could be a great pair moving forward.
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Pionk also has 33,33,34 the last 3 years.
I'm not discrediting PP production, just saying that one of the two I was comparing got PP time and the other didn't which affects the overall point totals. And for one being an offensive defenseman and the other defensive, the offensive player only got 17 more points at even strength.
Wherever his contact actually ends up, the Canucks have a glaring need for a right shot defenseman. And they are not moving on his reported ask. If he ends up getting 8, 7.5, or 7, if the Canucks think that's his value, they'll likely sign him. If a team like the Canucks who have no top 4 RHD don't like the value, that says a lot. And the Jets would have to use assets to trade for him, and then sign him to a deal that the Canucks with no good RHD passed on.
All this sounds like I dislike the player. That's not the case, my first post was mainly to talk about "value". I don't think Hronek at a big contract is a great use of cap space. Especially when we have to pay in assets and then also extend him at a big amount.
What about this former teammate of Logan Stanley's? He's a pending UFA, and I wonder if the Canes might bow out of the bidding given their other cap / contract challenges. Evolving Hockey is pegging his contract projection at around 5 x $4.1M.
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"he only got 17 more points at even strength" dillon finished the year with only 20 points those 17 points are nearly double dillon's production at even strength
it's very very hard to get top 4 rhd in this league and it's even that much harder to do so in winnipeg, they rarely come available and of course when they do they are going to have some flaws in their game, can't just sit back and wait for the perfect one to become available because that will never happen
canucks may not have any rhd but not signing hronek could open up the money to sign pesce, montour(if available) or tanev, something we cannot do
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dreger mentioned chevy is open to trading ehlers mentioned the canes and necas, lebrun adds later that winnipeg is among the 5-7 teams that "invite intriguing possibilities" to the hurricanes
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If the Jets can flip Ehlers and maybe Heinola for Necas, and extend Necas for 7-8 years (maybe 8.3M), that would be a nice piece of work. I like that more than signing Monahan as the 2C.NHL Videos - Highlights and Analysis from the National Hockey League
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dreger mentioned chevy is open to trading ehlers mentioned the canes and necas, lebrun adds later that winnipeg is among the 5-7 teams that "invite intriguing possibilities" to the hurricanes
Necas gives the Jets a young RS forward with a ton of speed, and they can add forwards like Perfetti, Lambert, McGroarty, Chibrikov and Barlow around him.
I don't see a huge risk, and it could turn into a home run. Question is whether Necas would sign a long term deal with the Jets.
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dreger mentioned chevy is open to trading ehlers mentioned the canes and necas, lebrun adds later that winnipeg is among the 5-7 teams that "invite intriguing possibilities" to the hurricanes
We better not trade Ehlers
Maybe if we bring Laine back we can reignite their chemistry
Iafallo, Lucius and Rashevsky for Laine
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Credit where its due. But he certainly shies away from contact (or playing defense) during the regular season.
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I wanted Ceulemans instead of Lucius in 21. He has been a bit disappointing so far but still appears to be progressing. I know nothing of the Wisconsin Badgers issues.
I would still be interested in getting him but not as a main piece in exchange for Ehlers. Something else better + Ceulemans could be interesting.
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I think you meant “and maybe Stanley”.
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My initial thought on Chatfield’s underlying numbers are a) he’s been used in a fairly sheltered role, b) he plays on a team where it’s very hard to post bad numbers in a sheltered role unless your name is Tony DeAngelo.
That said, I’d be very happy with Chatfield as a RHD pickup at that term and price tag.
So with Laine, Ehlers, Necas and Marner all up on the trade boards this summer it seems everyone is looking to unload their soft playoff performers.
It's going to be tough to get any kind of decent return for Ehlers when so many other options are out there.
It's going to be tough to get any kind of decent return for Ehlers when so many other options are out there.
Until the last 5 games. He was playing better after being called out by the coach, will it last who knows? Plus no one cares about regular season it’s all about the playoffs.
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I wonder how Chatfields underlying numbers compare to Colin Miller?
If we didn't give Miller a shot would Chatfield atleast look like an upgrade on paper?
If we didn't give Miller a shot would Chatfield atleast look like an upgrade on paper?
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Iafallo, Kupari and a 2nd for Laine?
I would welcome Laine back, he probably fits in better now with Wheeler gone and a healthy locker room.
I could be wrong, but I remember him in the playoffs being one of the few guys grinding hard and actually playing to win.
He would also probably encourage Ehlers to re-sign.
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Bring him home!Laine is available...
All seriousness, want to see our PP get fixed?
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