Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[Mortimer Snerd]

It's entirely possible that Chevy gets left on the dance floor just might not be able to get the player he wants for one reason or another


He is not a rental

1 year left. So 2 PO runs. We have Perfetti for at least 4 more years.
He is going to be better than Vatrano, if Jets develop him well.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Why not? He can sign as soon as his NCAA season is over. Which potentially could be Sunday.

He can also technically sign today if he walked away from NCAA

I think that 1st also factored in the cost of dumping RyJo

Totally

 

[Cypruss]

I bet LV goes into the playoffs with close to a $110 M payroll.

Yet the mods silence me when I say their doctors are frauds and liars for supporting their cheating tactics. Who pays the doctors? All that you need to know.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He's having his first good season at 29. I keep reading that he plays with bite here and here alone, I've never seen that from him and I've been following him for years. He has a fantastic shot and knows how to get open. Dumb as rocks otherwise, no playmaking to speak of. He's Brendan Pirri given a top line opportunity. You don't pay a top young player in the league plus a high 2nd for that.

I wouldn't call it his 1st good season but it is clearly a career season - on a team where he gets ideal usage. It would be foolish to count on him having another season like this one.

 

[Jets 31]

With all the trades that have already happened wow is Trade Deadline day going to be alot of hours talking about the Leafs.

 

[KingBogo]

He can also technically sign today if he walked away from NCAA


Totally

Agreed, but no player is going to do that 2 days before the start of their playoffs. But anytime after he is eliminated an ELC deal can be wrapped up in a day or so.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Byram was traded for a top 6 center drafted 2 drafts before him. So good young player for good young player.

The Perfetti talk is for 29 or 30 year old close to pending UFA. Very different assets.

I have no issue trading Cole for a real good young player with term. I have no interest trading him for a rental or short term solution.

I wouldn't do that even if Vatrano was under contract for 4 more years.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Agreed, but no player is going to do that 2 days before the start of their playoffs. But anytime after he is eliminated an ELC deal can be wrapped up in a day or so.

Such as?

Are you talking what could happen or what is likely to. Seems like a little of both.

 

[KingBogo]

Such as?

Such as what? Not sure what you're asking?

 

[tbcwpg]

Yet the mods silence me when I say their doctors are frauds and liars for supporting their cheating tactics. Who pays the doctors? All that you need to know.

I wish their doctors paid me.

 

[Atoyot]

I wouldn't call it his 1st good season but it is clearly a career season - on a team where he gets ideal usage. It would be foolish to count on him having another season like this one

Last year was the first time he broke half a point per game with 41 in 81. He knows how to score, fantastic accuracy and release. I started following him when he scored 36 goals in 36 games for Providence in the AHL. He's speedy and he shoots but he wouldn't get the same opportunity on any playoff team that he's gotten with the Ducks.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

8 year contracts, and handing out NTC/NMC like candy are the two worst things imo.

i like the idea of limiting the NTC NMC slots per team. there's a few other ideas i will email the league about that they should change on it.

I see big signing bonuses as being even worse. Make contracts buyout proof and salary retention proof. Can do more to limit trades than even the NTC/NMCs.

 

[Atoyot]

I wouldn't do that even if Vatrano was under contract for 4 more years.

I wouldn't do it even if Vatrano had 4 more years and it was just straight up for Perfetti. Adding the high 2nd would be ludicrous.

 

[NA Hockey]

Well, Colorado has blown by us today. Getting Mittelstadt filled their one big hole. They are going to be tough to get by.

Everyone talking about how good Middelstadt is and how he puts Colorado over the top as their 2c.

I find that interesting. He is three years older than Perfetti and three years ago was no where near as good as Perfetti is now. He had 25 and 22 points and was in and out of the lineup until last year. This year he has taken off. That’s why you don’t trade Perfetti because before three years he is going to be as good or better than Midds is today.

You have to have patience with young skilled players.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Such as what? Not sure what you're asking?

Sorry - are there real actual examples of ncaa players getting knocked out and joining their teams in a day.

It’s usually a big decision that takes some time. Both from the player and management.

The jets may not want to burn a year of ELC.

It’s not a decision made lightly, and ELCs aren’t boilerplate for a player like mcgroarty. I’m just blanking on players that have joined a team in a day. Usually takes a week or so sometimes 2 or more to sort it out. But like I said I’m no expert on the subject and will defer to you.

 

[KingBogo]

Such as?

Are you talking what could happen or what is likely to. Seems like a little of both.

I see you expanded your response after I replied. No way McGroarty abandons his team on the eve of the playoffs and no doubt he hopes to go an a long playoff run. But once his season is over and if he and his camp are motivated I think an ELC deal will happen very quickly. Likely a verbal agreement will be made that he will get some NHL games this season. That's the best grease a GM has for signing a top NCAA player after their season. After that no one knows, but I think the kid will be a very good NHL player and is probably ready.

 

[surixon]

Everyone talking about how good Middelstadt is and how he puts Colorado over the top as their 2c.

I find that interesting. He is three years older than Perfetti and three years ago was no where near as good as Perfetti is now. He had 25 and 22 points and was in and out of the lineup until last year. This year he has taken off. That’s why you don’t trade Perfetti because before three years he is going to be as good or better than Midds is today.

You have to have patience with young skilled players.

Funny you said this. I was just going to post something very similar.

Similar draft pedigrees and similar weaknesses. Perfetti as you mentioned is further ahead at the same age. Maybe we should let the process play out. I actually think a Middlesdat + is what they are looking to develop him into.

Schiefele with much more favorable usage at the same age only out up 49 points.

 

[NA Hockey]

Yes and i think Barlow will be too .

Both will be good, in two years. Neither can contribute this in the playoffs.

 

[Atoyot]

Sorry - are there real actual examples of ncaa players getting knocked out and joining their teams in a day.

It’s usually a big decision that takes some time. Both from the player and management.

The jets may not want to burn a year of ELC.

It’s not a decision made lightly, and ELCs aren’t boilerplate for a player like mcgroarty. I’m just blanking on players that have joined a team in a day. Usually takes a week or so sometimes 2 or more to sort it out. But like I said I’m no expert on the subject and will defer to you.

Not sure about a day, but NCAA players signing very quickly after their season has finished is very common. Knies last season, Copp for us, usually a couple every year. Teams use burning a year of ELC as leverage.

 

[surixon]

I see you expanded your response after I replied. No way McGroarty abandons his team on the eve of the playoffs and no doubt he hopes to go an a long playoff run. But once his season is over and if he and his camp are motivated I think an ELC deal will happen very quickly. Likely a verbal agreement will be made that he will get some NHL games this season. That's the best grease a GM has for signing a top NCAA player after their season. After that no one knows, but I think the kid will be a very good NHL player and is probably ready.

If he wants to leave college, he'll sign within a couple of days of his season ending. May take longer for a visa but will be with the team within a week after imo.

 

[KingBogo]

Everyone talking about how good Middelstadt is and how he puts Colorado over the top as their 2c.

I find that interesting. He is three years older than Perfetti and three years ago was no where near as good as Perfetti is now. He had 25 and 22 points and was in and out of the lineup until last year. This year he has taken off. That’s why you don’t trade Perfetti because before three years he is going to be as good or better than Midds is today.

You have to have patience with young skilled players.

IMO the chances of trading Perfetti at the TDL are next to zero they might as well be zero. There are players I would do it for, but they won't be offered up at the TDL.

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[NA Hockey]

Perfetti was playing in the top 6 at a younger age then McGroarty.

Mcgroarty is not a Makar lever talent. He isn’t a top 10 pick, he isn’t crazy skilled. He is not walking in out of college to play in the playoffs. Bones won’t trust him, he isn’t a great skater nor a prolific scorer. His good guy image and leadership qualities, which are his biggest attributes won’t make a difference this year’s all.

I think he signs, plays a couple of games. Next year plays most of the year on the Moose, with a cup of coffee and the following year is ready.

 

[KingBogo]

If he wants to leave college, he'll sign within a couple of days of his season ending. May take longer for a visa but will be with the team within a week after imo.

By now him and his camp will have decided if they are leaving college after the season or not and Chevy would be aware. As much as a grinder Chevy is, that doesn't really come into play with an ELC for your top prospect.

That would go down as one of the biggest TDL deals in recent memory.

 

[KingBogo]

Mcgroarty is not a Makar lever talent. He isn’t a top 10 pick, he isn’t crazy skilled. He is not walking in out of college to play in the playoffs. Bones won’t trust him, he isn’t a great skater nor a prolific scorer. His good guy image and leadership qualities, which are his biggest attributes won’t make a difference this year’s all.

I think he signs, plays a couple of games. Next year plays most of the year on the Moose, with a cup of coffee and the following year is ready.

And I think he is much better than that. He is also a winger not a defenseman. I think given the opportunity he impresses.