Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[Buffdog]

Yes you can.

When was the last time ANYONE did that?

You have no idea how NHL organizations work. Imagine the message you send to every vet on the team that has bled and sweat to get to where they are by gifting that 2C spot to Lambert

 

[Buffdog]

So, if I'm chevy... I'm definitely calling about Lindholm

Considering the usual price for a pure rental is 1st + B prospect, I'm wondering who all y'all are comfortable paying as the "B prospect?

If I'm calgary, I'm probably asking for guys in this order:

1. Rutger
2. Lambert
3. Heinola
4. Barlow
5. Lucious
6. Chibs
7. Zhilkin

So... where do you draw the line? For me, 1 - 4 are off the table

Thoughts?

 

[Gabe Kupari]

For a rental

1 through 4 is a no go. Chibrikov though should be in that top 4 and barlow shouldn’t. People selling low on Chibrikov. Dudes a tank. He’s our Russian. He’s a no go for me for a rental.

If I’m Chevy Calgary is calling me.

 

[jokesondee]

Still say Jenner is the off the charts trade that Chevy pulls off

Dare to dream. He's a very solid faceoff guy that can add some offence and grit. Perfect 2C. I would be ecstatic if Chevy lands him. Having said that, he is their captain i believe, and his cap hit is next to nothing with a couple years still remaining. Not sure if Columbus has any incentive to move him.

 

[GaryPoppins]

I’m using as much draft capital as I can vs prospects. While our cupboard is better, it’s still thin on back end and forwards are solid but not elite.

I’m pushing ours/Montreal's second, our first and the later rounds we have if I’m Chevy.

 

[Flair Hay]

So, if I'm chevy... I'm definitely calling about Lindholm

Considering the usual price for a pure rental is 1st + B prospect, I'm wondering who all y'all are comfortable paying as the "B prospect?

If I'm calgary, I'm probably asking for guys in this order:

1. Rutger
2. Lambert
3. Heinola
4. Barlow
5. Lucious
6. Chibs
7. Zhilkin

So... where do you draw the line? For me, 1 - 4 are off the table

Thoughts?

Yeah I think Chibrikov has passed Lucius but other than that you have the right idea. I'd expect it to be Zhilkin or Rashevsky if we are able to get it done.

 

[Buffdog]

For a rental

1 through 4 is a no go. Chibrikov though should be in that top 4 and barlow shouldn’t. People selling low on Chibrikov. Dudes a tank. He’s our Russian. He’s a no go for me for a rental.

If I’m Chevy Calgary is calling me.

Chibs is also 5'9. I know we all pretend that "size doesn't matter", but outside of legit top 6 stars, ypu don't see many guys that size carve out a career as a bottom 6er

I'm on the fence about including him in a deal for a rental, TBH. He could be something special, or he will be nothing. There's no in between for him

 

[10Ducky10]

Lindholm for Loosh, 1st in 2024, 2nd in 2025 and Schmidt.

 

[Buffdog]

Lindholm for Loosh, 1st in 2024, 2nd in 2025 and Schmidt.

Does Lucious have any value with the upcoming ankle surgery?

I think everyone (aside from someone hoping to get him for nothing on a "buy low" project) wants to see hownthe recovery shakes out...

BUT

Maybe the Jets sell low on him if they can make him the only add in a lindholm trade
 
Lastly, I feel like you're attaching a 2nd to Schmidt to get rid of him. I think it's wiser to wait and buy him out

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

I think Calgary would want Chisholm in any deal as well, they are looking light on D after their UFAs

 

[JetsFan815]

We see this almost exactly the same.

This helps me to illustrate what I was talking about with opportunity cost.

1)Lindholm for a 1st for this year only, or

2)Lindholm at his new UFA deal for Iafallo, Dillon, Appleton

Which one makes more sense for our club? 1, 2, or neither?

I think Chevy can thread the needle if the right teams fall out of the playoff picture. Personally if we trade for a C and unload a 1st+, I'd wanna be able to get atleast one more year out of them rather than a pure rental. Yes we have Lambert, McGroarty in the pipeline but McGroarty may be a winger and I Brad likely starts off on the wing as well. I just think we are going to be in the exact same situation next season wanting to move assets at the deadline for a 2C.

I agree signing Lindholm for what he wants is out of question but I am rooting for Chevy to make a play for Nelson or Gourde who are both signed for next season as well if those two teams keep falling out of the playoff picture. Gourde is pretty affordable at 5.1 million caphit and we might be able get out of it by just moving Iafallo. A trade like that gives us an option for a 2C for next season without incurring a long term caphit that might create issues for Vilardi/Connor/Ehlers new contracts.

 

[Atoyot]

Would have been nice for Perfetti to have gotten a chance at center earlier in the year to see if he could have been our 2C. Oh well too late now I guess.

 

[surixon]

Would have been nice for Perfetti to have gotten a chance at center earlier in the year to see if he could have been our 2C. Oh well too late now I guess.

It was moved away from way too quickly and we are paying for it now having to dress NHL/AHL tweeners at C in our top 9. If I were the GM I would have insisted a minimum 20 game trial period.

We are now going to be forced to part with some key assets to plug what is clearly the biggest weakness on the team heading into the playoffs. This is the drawback to NHL coaches taking a way to short term view on things.

 

[Whileee]

They have been floundering for years and some guys get sick of it and want to have a chance to win

Imagine you are the Buffalo GM this summer and you have a chance to land the best American goalie maybe of all time. Its going to cost you but its likely going to cost you assets you can afford because none of them are going to help you win now anyway. Instead you don't and decide to put your prized rookie goalie in net and maybe soul crush him forever.

I think I might not want to commit my future to a team like that either

The fact that so many top teams couldn't find a way to pry Hellebuyck out of Winnipeg last summer remains a big mystery, and a boon for the Jets. Teams like Buffalo, NJ, Carolina, etc. should have been willing to put up a king's ransom to get the NHL's best goalie, who is a proven workhorse.

I don't know if Chevy is smart or lucky for not trading Hellebuyck - maybe a bit of both.

So, if I'm chevy... I'm definitely calling about Lindholm

Considering the usual price for a pure rental is 1st + B prospect, I'm wondering who all y'all are comfortable paying as the "B prospect?

If I'm calgary, I'm probably asking for guys in this order:

1. Rutger
2. Lambert
3. Heinola
4. Barlow
5. Lucious
6. Chibs
7. Zhilkin

So... where do you draw the line? For me, 1 - 4 are off the table

Thoughts?

I'd add Salomonsson to the list, maybe as high as 3-4. I would make him off limits in any rental trade.

 

[KingBogo]

The fact that so many top teams couldn't find a way to pry Hellebuyck out of Winnipeg last summer remains a big mystery, and a boon for the Jets. Teams like Buffalo, NJ, Carolina, etc. should have been willing to put up a king's ransom to get the NHL's best goalie, who is a proven workhorse.

I don't know if Chevy is smart or lucky for not trading Hellebuyck - maybe a bit of both.


I'd add Salomonsson to the list, maybe as high as 3-4. I would make him off limits in any rental trade.

I think because of organizational need Solomonsson is probably #2 after McGroarty on Chevy’ no trade list.

 

[GaryPoppins]

It was moved away from way too quickly and we are paying for it now having to dress NHL/AHL tweeners at C in our top 9. If I were the GM I would have insisted a minimum 20 game trial period.

We are now going to be forced to part with some key assets to plug what is clearly the biggest weakness on the team heading into the playoffs. This is the drawback to NHL coaches taking a way to short term view on things.

No one was complaining about 91 not playing centre when we went 34 games allowing 3 goals or less and went on the heater since December. 91 has been injured a lot and has a long career. More than okay with him starting on the wing and getting comfortable and then moving to C, eventually.

 

[Gil Fisher]

For me, I don't like the idea of trading our top prospects. McGroarty, Chibrikov, Barlow, Salomonsson, Lambert and Heinola are included in that group for me.

I'd be most willing to consider Lambert and Heinola but there'd have to be a really nice player with term coming back. I just can't see it though. All these proposals being bandied about and I can't see one that works for both teams.

 

[WolfHouse]

I think the highest price you have to pay for Lindholm is our 1st, Kupari, Zhilkin - I think Chevy pays that price if we lose to the Leafs - its not a panic button but he has seen what our playoffs are like without Scheif before and Lindholmd has shown he's a playoff guy.

 

[Jet]

So, if I'm chevy... I'm definitely calling about Lindholm

Considering the usual price for a pure rental is 1st + B prospect, I'm wondering who all y'all are comfortable paying as the "B prospect?

If I'm calgary, I'm probably asking for guys in this order:

1. Rutger
2. Lambert
3. Heinola
4. Barlow
5. Lucious
6. Chibs
7. Zhilkin

So... where do you draw the line? For me, 1 - 4 are off the table

Thoughts?

I don't want to pay the price but if we did, I'd reluctantly part with 5 or 7.

I'm definitely not as high on Lucius as others, he screams flop to me. Zhilkin I am honestly not super familiar with.

What about Torgersson? I think he'll likely play out as a good defensive bottom 6 guy.

For me, I don't like the idea of trading our top prospects. McGroarty, Chibrikov, Barlow, Salomonsson, Lambert and Heinola are included in that group for me.

I'd be most willing to consider Lambert and Heinola but there'd have to be a really nice player with term coming back. I just can't see it though. All these proposals being bandied about and I can't see one that works for both teams.

Chibi reminds me a lot of Kucherov - I'm holding on to him for sure. He and McGroarty along with Barlow are non starters for me.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I think McGroarty/Salo/Barlow are probably non starters. Lambert has to be right there. I am only trading Lambert or Barlow if you are getting someone long term.

 

[GaryPoppins]

IMO,

For me, I don't like the idea of trading our top prospects. McGroarty, Chibrikov, Barlow, Salomonsson, Lambert and Heinola are included in that group for me.

I'd be most willing to consider Lambert and Heinola but there'd have to be a really nice player with term coming back. I just can't see it though. All these proposals being bandied about and I can't see one that works for both teams.

I’d absolutely hate to lose Lambert. He’s a good story. I really don’t have the intel/scouting to compare ceilings of Lambert vs Barlow. Knowing our window is now vs later, I’d be more inclined to include Barlow but fully acknowledging I could be in the minority

 

[Joe Hallenback]

IMO,

I’d absolutely hate to lose Lambert. He’s a good story. I really don’t have the intel/scouting to compare ceilings of Lambert vs Barlow. Knowing our window is now vs later, I’d be more inclined to include Barlow but fully acknowledging I could be in the minority

Barlow is a high end scoring winger. Sort of a replacement for Connor/Ehlers if you can't sign one of them. Granted his game is different then either of them but you drafted him to score.

Lambert is a tricky one. His trajectory since we drafted him has been going up and up. He looks like a pro center. He is also a right shot. He is doing everything right in the AHL. My personal opinion is you don't move McGroarty/Salo/Barlow/Lambert. You do move Lambert if and only if you are getting Lindholm and he is signing here. But I dont see that happening.

I think our assets that we would be willing to move are 2024 1st, 2024 2nd, 2025 1st(Protected), 2025 2nd. Chibrikov,Rashevsky,Zhilkin,Wagner and Julien

 

[Moon Man]

I would trade Chibrikov and a 2nd for Lindholm.

 

[surixon]

Barlow is a high end scoring winger. Sort of a replacement for Connor/Ehlers if you can't sign one of them. Granted his game is different then either of them but you drafted him to score.

Lambert is a tricky one. His trajectory since we drafted him has been going up and up. He looks like a pro center. He is also a right shot. He is doing everything right in the AHL. My personal opinion is you don't move McGroarty/Salo/Barlow/Lambert. You do move Lambert if and only if you are getting Lindholm and he is signing here. But I dont see that happening.

I think our assets that we would be willing to move are 2024 1st, 2024 2nd, 2025 1st(Protected), 2025 2nd. Chibrikov,Rashevsky,Zhilkin,Wagner and Julien

I only move a top prospect to fill a need for the longer term but there isn't going to be enough space on our roster for all our young forwards.

If the team keeps KC and Fly then 5 of 6 top 6 spots are spoken for, for the foreseeable future. That essentially leaves one spot unless it's filled long term with a move this year. If it's not then my guess is McGroarty is penciled in.

If it's filled then McGroarty and Barlow have the gritty element to their games that can work on how this team likes to run it's third line.

That reay doesn't leave much room for Chibrikov, Lambert, and Lucius. I think if you can get a key long term piece then you should entertain moving them before they lose value due to not being able to crack the roster. Imo we have been guilty of holding onto prospects that don't fit the plan too long.

 

[WolfHouse]

I only move a top prospect to fill a need for the longer term but there isn't going to be enough space on our roster for all our young forwards.

If the team keeps KC and Fly then 5 of 6 top 6 spots are spoken for, for the foreseeable future. That essentially leaves one spot unless it's filled long term with a move this year. If it's not then my guess is McGroarty is penciled in.

If it's filled then McGroarty and Barlow have the gritty element to their games that can work on how this team likes to run it's third line.

That reay doesn't leave much room for Chibrikov, Lambert, and Lucius. I think if you can get a key long term piece then you should entertain moving them before they lose value due to not being able to crack the roster. Imo we have been guilty of holding onto prospects that don't fit the plan too long.

Lambert is looking really good at centre in the A... I suspect he's our 2C moving forward since Perfetti doesn't seem to be in the cards and the longer he develops as a winger, the more likely he stays there.

Lambert moves in as 2C next season... same way we thought Perfetti was our 2C heading into this season

After that McGro and Barlow probably come in on the checking line or a fourth energy line before moving up

Chib is the only one I don't see room for... that being said, we are rolling four lines and a scoring touch on that line is fine with me