Yup. When he gets back to his 40pt pace it'll be crickets. This thread is a sink for all the emotional responses from people noticing he only has 1pt so far. When that clears up, all the knee-jerk commentary will direct elsewhere and we can lock this one up and forget that a segment of the Leafs fan base was discussing giving him 3rd pairing minutes after 6 games with a new partner.
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Yup. When he gets back to his 40pt pace it'll be crickets. This thread is a sink for all the emotional responses from people noticing he only has 1pt so far. When that clears up, all the knee-jerk commentary will direct elsewhere and we can lock this one up and forget that a segment of the Leafs fan base was discussing giving him 3rd pairing minutes after 6 games with a new partner.
Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
I actually think the fact he gives up and incredible amount of high danger chances and regular chances is a far bigger issue than the 1 point.
The 1 point is concerning, though, as I’ve always used that to counterbalance his poor defence.
OldTimeHockey
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That's what we want? When Andersen let's in a bad goal, we want Morgan Rielly to grab him by the throat? Do we think that's how Tavares leads? Do we think that's how Yzerman led his team? Sakic? Rielly is nowhere near those two as leaders, but I'd much rather he lead like them than lead by choke slamming teammates. Just me perhaps.
Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
Agreed about the choke slamming. I’d like to know when we can expect him to lead like Yzerman or Sakic? Both could be counted on to win their shifts. Rielly has been getting buried.
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Like I said, he's not Yzerman or Sakic. But I'd prefer he mimic them when interviewed(which is why I responded about leadership btw).
You don't trade low. Who knows what style Keefe is asking from him. As long as we win, he deserves more time with his new pairing mate TJ Brodie. It always takes about 10 games to adjust.
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Except he's only had two plus seasons. and is a career -44 hardly a Norris level Dman and to be fair half the points in his 1 good year were secondary assists gained by feeding the puck to Mitch on the power play soooo I guess it sucks when the facts don't match your personal narrative eh .
Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
I agree with you. I love that side of Mo. outsider looking in, he seems to have those leadership qualities.
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You have a problem with straight up i understand that already. Ignore candidate written all over ya
I knew if I posted in here I’d be accosted with a reply quoting +/- on a player who has played #1D on a bad team for most of his career. I prepared myself and was ready for it.
Rielly's fate will probably be tied to how Lehtonen, Sandin, and Liljegren progress. If they don't develop or make an impact in the nhl they'll have no choice but to re-sign Rielly out of necessity.
Personally, I like Rielly, but I don't like the idea of signing him to a long term contract at a big dollar amount. I just don't think a team can be a true contender with such a poor defensive defensemen as their #1.
Personally, I like Rielly, but I don't like the idea of signing him to a long term contract at a big dollar amount. I just don't think a team can be a true contender with such a poor defensive defensemen as their #1.
The Man with a Plan
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Not to mention the fact that there was no preseason.
Odd and stresful start to the season
No preseason
New partner
Lots of team changes
Yet people are soo quick to forget that when he is rolling he is a norris level talent. Id bet half the people who want him gone wanted Larry Murphy gone and the other doesnt even know who Larry is.
Its 6 games in and the guy who lives and breathes Blue and White while on a sweetheart hometown deal is getting run out of town... some people need to get a f***ing grip.
The Man with a Plan
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Mo is not the Defensive Dman on the top pairing. Thats TJ. Mo always has been a OFD.
Covid has changed things too... players will not be getting those huge deals like before. Simply not viable.
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Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
How many number 1D can only play one side of the puck? I can only really think of the greats like Karlsson, Coffey. They definitely weren’t 0.5ppg players when they did it.
I don’t think it’s smart to run a guy out 25 mins a night vs top players and end up with 1.5xGA and 0.3xGF. That’s not a number 1D. That’s an offensive D who needs to be insulated. He’s already being force fed PP time and Ozone starts and he’s still not generating chances as you would expect a 1D to do so.
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Assists still count as points no matter if they are primary or secondary. Seriously too many people here live and die by the plus minus (which is a horrible metric to measure by and quite flawed) and primary vs secondary points.
Lets also point out that your narrative also included his stats from seasons where we were horrible and also tanking.
We finally have a solid reliable defensive partner for him after years of Costka and company and people wont give them 10 games before trying to banish him. Merde
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back in the day rielly only played solid ok defense but was looking like a star cause he hit 70 young and was a potential near ppg a season superstar D
he was so much more aggressive...but then decided to focus on his defensive game, and actually rielly even with his strong skating and hockey iq and skills is just a good fine defender, nothing special...and this is with him focusing more on the defensive and being less offensive, and he just only this good on the defensive zone
jeeze you mind as well be more aggressive, but smartly, start pushing the play a lot more...when was last time rielly rushed the puck down the ice into their zone like he did on a regular basis back in the day
he was so much more aggressive...but then decided to focus on his defensive game, and actually rielly even with his strong skating and hockey iq and skills is just a good fine defender, nothing special...and this is with him focusing more on the defensive and being less offensive, and he just only this good on the defensive zone
jeeze you mind as well be more aggressive, but smartly, start pushing the play a lot more...when was last time rielly rushed the puck down the ice into their zone like he did on a regular basis back in the day
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We don't need Rielly or our D to push the puck into the O-Zone. Leafs are one of the best zone entry teams in the NHL.
We already have Marner, Matthews, Nylander, Tavaraes, and, Mikheyev for that. I included Mikheyev because, every time he has the puck in the neutral zone, he skates all the way into the O-zone and behind the net.
OldTimeHockey
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Because I disagree with what I'd like to see out of a leader?
By the way, there's a big difference between a leader grabbing a teammate by the throat and a leader calling out his team as a whole. Personally, I prefer a leader that leads by example. John Tavares does that. Hopefully it can wear off on Rielly a little more.
The Holl thread last week was even more funny than this... because of work I was unable to catch much of the first 3 games so it took me a day or 2 to realize the Holl bashing was unjustified and alot of posters have no FKN clue what they are talking about.
Although I feel Rielly has much more to give, he's been fine , playing big minutes with a new partner .. a couple 2 point nights and there will be a Rielly Dck Riding thread.
This board is so fickle
