All Purpose Morgan Rielly Discussion

[William Hylander]

Sure let's trade the D man who has been the best D man for us whenever he's played in his career.

No hes not a number one, but hes a number 2 for sure. Why do we always have to rag on players for not being #1C or #1D? Instead we should question management for not getting more depth.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Fk no. Dmen take a while to adjust to new partners.

Much too early to have this conversation.

Does anyone not remember last season the Leafs play when Rielly was injured and missed 23 games. They would be a lot worse without him and are much better when he's in the lineup.

 

[Cecithepylon]

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[Gallagbi]

Does anyone not remember last season the Leafs play when Rielly was injured and missed 23 games. They would be a lot worse without him and are much better when he's in the lineup.

I imagine in the trade we'd be getting something better than Marty Marincin

 

[GQS]

Buddy just give him more time. We are playing well. We have brand new defensemen just learning the system.

I like Rielly, but really lets be real. Has there ever been a time where he has been great defensively? We've watched him play for many years and has he really improved all that much in those years on defense? We've tried to play him with different partners to make him better and has it ever worked out with anyone? Maybe with Hainsey for that little while we saw him looking decent on defense, otherwise when have we seen him play good defense for any long sustained period of time? He may be decent offensively, but defensively not so much and yet we need to rely on him as our top pairing defenseman.

Rielly is a guy that as much as he seems to be a good person and locker room guy, he should be moved rather than giving him a significant raise to keep him when he isn't close to being that #1 dman that we need. Unless the price to keep him is very reasonable, then we should look to trade him for maximum value while we can.

 

[hockeyes]

I’m always big Morgs defense type poster. It’s only 6 games. 6 crap games by him. So he deserves the criticism. Six uninspired games in a row casts a poor reflection. I would still consider trading him some time in the next year because he likely won’t fit in our cap. Some time between now and Christmas Dubas should probably move him

If it was just 6 games this wouldn't be a discussion. He has had 1 good year and 7 meh years.

 

[leafsgirl12]

He’s the best D we have and had for a really long time. I’d take him over Kaberle tbh. The issue is he’s leaned on too heavily in all situations. I’ll also say, I don’t think we’ve ever gotten a truly good partner for him. I think him and Brodie will grow into a good pairing though.

agree

 

[leafsgirl12]

Does anyone not remember last season the Leafs play when Rielly was injured and missed 23 games. They would be a lot worse without him and are much better when he's in the lineup.

Very true

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

he's showing the same warts he's always shown. He's leading our defensemen with 24:30 per game and he's just not worthy of that much ice time. I would try to shelter him and just let him worry about offense/transition, since he is simply not good enough to defend against good players. Muzzin/Holl/Brodie can all handle it, but he can't

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Keep him, but don't pay him like a Roman Josi or Alex Pietrangelo.

The only change I would make would be to not use him 25 minutes a night, unless absolutely necessary. Plan on getting him 22/23 minutes a night on average, with the occasional game when he plays 25+ minutes. File in Muzzin/Brodie/Holl right behind him each getting 20/21 minutes, and then give Dermott/Lehtonen/Bogosian the rest. We have quality depth, and you don't want to be running these guys down in a tight schedule like this.

He's a quality two-way defenseman who is easily a #1 defenseman in this league. We don't have anything remotely close to replacing him now, and as much as I like Sandin and Liljegren, we have nothing remotely close to replacing him long term either.

 

[Dragao6]

Riley for Dubois?

but kidding aside I don’t like the idea of trading Reilly but.......if it’s an Ekblad coming back hmmm

 

[LeafsNation75]

I don't know how much this stat matters but for his career Rielly does have 5 overtime goals which ranks only behind Tomas Kaberle's 7 overtime goals when he played in Toronto. So even though we don't think of him as a scoring threat in overtime with Matthews, Tavares, Marner, and Nylander already on the team, at least it's nice knowing he can contribute during overtime.

 

[Tmart335]

he's showing the same warts he's always shown. He's leading our defensemen with 24:30 per game and he's just not worthy of that much ice time. I would try to shelter him and just let him worry about offense/transition, since he is simply not good enough to defend against good players. Muzzin/Holl/Brodie can all handle it, but he can't

who do you suggest takes the spot of number 1 defenseman? Bogo, muzzin, Brodie , sandin , lehtonen, holl? Lol

Reilly put up 72 pts 2 years ago and 27 in 47 last year , while playing against the leagues
Top players.

Guess the 28 mins opening game and the game winner wasn’t enough. playing 6 games in almost a calendar year, with a brand new D partner, with no preseason . Why are leaf fans so quick to run their best players out of town ?

Can you name a good defence partner Morgan has had since he has drafted? Brodie is prob the best he has had . Hainsey? ceci? Phaneuf? .

 

[Leafs at Knight]

My God our board sucks sometimes. Garbage threads being made after leafs wins lol. I do think Rielly needs to be playing around 20 minutes though, and not the 24~ he's been playing so far. Of course the OP also thinks the Jets are better than the Leafs, maybe not the best judge out there.

He had a bad game tonight, but he's been pretty good in the other games. Brodie also did not have a good game, but no one will probably mention it.

 

[LeafGrief]

Rielly is our #1 and is damn good. No, he's not good defensively. But he's one of the best offensive defensemen in the league and he tilts the ice hugely in our favour whenever he's out there. The warts are worth what he brings.

I cannot believe that this is a thread. I cannot believe that some of y'all posted a thread about him on the trade boards either. FFS.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I actually think Rielly has been pretty good this year. He controls the play from the back end. His partner has allowed him the freedom to roam which is when he's at his best.
He's made a few bad decisions(which comes with this type of player) early in a season with a new partner, and at times, very poor team defence.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

My God our board sucks sometimes. Garbage threads being made after leafs wins lol. I do think Rielly needs to be playing around 20 minutes though, and not the 24~ he's been playing so far. Of course the OP also thinks the Jets are better than the Leafs, maybe not the best judge out there.

He had a bad game tonight, but he's been pretty good in the other games. Brodie also did not have a good game, but no one will probably mention it.

I actually think that with Bogosian being your number 6, you have no choice but to play Rielly 24 minutes a night unless you want the 5 or 6 on the ice more often.

 

[BAM]

Sure let's trade the D man who has been the best D man for us whenever he's played in his career.

No hes not a number one, but hes a number 2 for sure. Why do we always have to rag on players for not being #1C or #1D? Instead we should question management for not getting more depth.

Rielly is one season removed from a top 5 Norris finish, ranked a top 20 D-man in the league by the NHL network heading into this season and was even voted a top 20 D-man on the main boards of HF and you know how they feel about anything Leaf related. He's not a "2" lmfao.

Rielly has his faults but god damn some of you overreact.

 

[BAM]

Riley for Dubois?

but kidding aside I don’t like the idea of trading Reilly but.......if it’s an Ekblad coming back hmmm

Oh great, bring in a similar level d-man but with different strengths and weaknesses, love him for a bit at the beginning and then turn on him just like people are on Rielly.

Sounds like a great plan

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

EDIT: maybe this will be a nice anti-jinx thread like the Holl one.

Muzzin - Brodie
Dermott - Holl
Rielly - Bogo/Lehtonen
Sandin

I think it's time for this Mo-Brodie pairing to spend some time apart. We're 6 games in, and they are getting caved every single shift. Brodie looks excellent away from Mo, so my thought is to drop Rielly down, and try to keep him away from tough matchups.

Muzz-Brodie would be a legit shutdown minute crunching pair with puck movement ability and good positioning.

Also, in my opinion we should be looking to trade Mo this TDL. Give the minutes to Sandin/Lehtonen, and have Liljegren as the first guy to be called up. Cap space can be used on bringing in another D and another forward to push Spezza, Vesey, Brooks and Simmonds all down the depth chart.

I think he could get a huge return, and I am not comfortable spending cap space on him once his deal is up.

Rielly on the 3rd pair? stop it, stop being ridiculous, I know He's off to slow start offensively but come on

 

[SprDaVE]

I don't get it. He's still a top end defenseman to me. He'll make mistakes like anyone else.

The expectations of defensemen being perfect is mind blowing to me. People focus on the mistakes and completely disregard the great things a defenseman like Rielly does.

The last of our problems is the play of Rielly and how good he is.

I hope we re-sign him to an 8 year contract and he's here for his entire career.

 

[kevsh]

The long, sad history of Leafs fans running d-men out of town continues.

What's even more sad, and predictable, is if Reilly goes out this week and has one good game ... *crickets*

Give it a rest already.

 

[Critical13]

he's showing the same warts he's always shown. He's leading our defensemen with 24:30 per game and he's just not worthy of that much ice time. I would try to shelter him and just let him worry about offense/transition, since he is simply not good enough to defend against good players. Muzzin/Holl/Brodie can all handle it, but he can't

Agreed. You can’t keep putting him out there against McDavid types, he’s getting burned every shift.

 

[Notsince67]

If he's not scoring 55-60 pts a season, he's not doing much. He's just getting burried this year.

I would move him. Do you really want to re-sign him for 7 or 8 million?

Is it his skills or the coaching direction?

 

[DarkKnight]

Why do we hate our best players. You’d swear we were a bottom feeding team. Toxic.