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All Purpose Morgan Rielly Discussion
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Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
Agreed, and our overpays are usually debateable because they are for elite talents.
Dubas winning worst GM poll on the mainboard, meanwhile the Habs have 19 million tied up in Price/Weber until 2026, Vancouver's bottom 6 averages like 3 million/player, Calgary has Lucic, Edmonton is just a mess in general, etc. Just in our own division, I see 5 teams with worse "overpays" from overpaying replacement level types. Ottawa would have more bad contracts if they actually had cash to spend...
Lou, the "GM of the Year" last year, has one of the worst overpay situations in the NHL and is being buoyed by an exceptional coach.
Yup. Leafs are in a great cap situation. People need to study the cap of other teams.
Fans it seems won't bother adding-up these horrendous support deals other Gms sign because the cap doesn't look bad if it starts with a 3 or 4 it seems without considering the role they play.
Canucks are just screwed right now. And yeah, Habs have now spent all that cap, and will have some ugly deals (Do already with Price).
The 4 players for the 40 milion argument against the Leafs is garbage. These players are stars and the cap is about the entire roster.
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Explain how we're in a great cap situation when our #1D and #1G are up for new deals soon and we're struggling to stay under the cap as is? That's not even including Hyman who's up at the end of the season.
Our #1 goalie will have to take a paycut. He has horrible numbers the past 2 years (.896 save % currently). He's looking at a Brayden Holtby deal right now. That's *if* the Leafs even bother offering him anything.
Leafs #1 D is a UFA after next season. I'm tired of the contract hyperbiole that only happens here. Every team has those concerns.
Study this:
CapFriendly - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
Leafs cap situation is hilariously overhyped. If you rank them, they are 5th or 6th worst just in the North division.And even broke Ottawa has a far worse contract in Murray than Leafs have on their roster.
zeke
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The main boards are adorable.
Leafs have an elite young and prime core locked up for years, and a GM who has proven he knows how to get value out of cheap bottom roster choices. This year was the worst part of the cap crunch we will ever face thanks to the flat cap - going forward it will only get better as the next wave of drafted kids starts coming through and the cap eventually starts ticking up again.
Meanwhile all these other GMs getting credit because they had elite ELC talent, even as they completely screwed their teams going forwards with horrendous bottom roster contracts......and they're already shedding key core players and haven't even paid their elite ELC kids yet.
zeke
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Neither our #1D nor our #1G are earning a raise at the moment.
That #1G is actually earning a paycut.
Thornton, Vesey, Bogosian, Spezza, , Simmonds make a COMBINED 4.8 million on the cap LOL. That's what a great GM spends on support talent.
But no one is even aware of that.
But no one is even aware of that.
Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
Imagine losing Devon Toews, a top pairing RD who would probably be our best overall defenceman, for 2 2nd round picks because you overpaid Leo Komarov, Matt Martin, and Anders Lee...
How this trade isn't being looked at as one of the worst in a long time is probably because Toews plays a quiet game.
I don't really enjoy the Leafs-Isles rivalry like I once did, the Tavares situation feels like history now. I really love some of their players in Pulock, Pelech, Barzal, Beavillier. I actually wouldn't mind seeing them succeed...but man, Lou gets away with a lot because the team overachieved on the backs of some ELC contracts. Losing Toews for 2nd round picks, letting Lehner walk for nothing, trading a huge haul for a 3rd line C then handing him a big deal.
Big challenges ahead on the island, reminds me of some of my favourite aspects of having Kyle as our GM.
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Well he wouldn't be our best dman but he might have been the islanders' best dman. And now they have to worry about re-signing another arguably most important dman in Pelech next year.
I am eagerly anticipating what people are saying about Lou a year and 2 from now. There's nowhere to go but down for that team, and they have so many horrible deals they can't move.
Although Toews would be much worse than our best. But horrible to lose him only because of a Leo Komorov getting that hilarious deal.
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Numbers are a funny thing. People have claimed that nobody has ever won with 3 forwards making over 10mm each. Should the leafs win the cup, that number changes to 50%.
The Podium
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Freddys play hasn’t earned him a raise, and perhaps even a paycut. That’s if Dubas decides to go back to Andersen, if he wants to tandem with Campbell we can actually save millions on goaltending.
#1D Rielly has earned a slight raise but doesn’t look like he’ll be getting that 9 mill we predicted 2 years ago. Most of his raise should be covered by Kessels 1.2 mill coming off the books conveniently at the same time.
The Podium
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If Pelech becomes a cap casualty I hope Dubas does what it takes to get him. He’s and younger version of Muzzin
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He is replaceable as an LD with no physical game and average defense. But on pace for 60+ pts and that is a limited group with a bunch or Norris trophy winners in it. He may have better defensive seasons ahead of him so he is an automatic resign if the money is right, but he doesn't look like he can ever be a legit #1 D. He looked a bit like a young Duncan Keith a couple of years ago and he is definitely not that. Lets just not Larry Murphy the guy right?
Notsince67
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Please. He is easily a top 13-20 dman in this league and he is just entering defensive prime years.
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That last play.
Auston Matthews, the best goal scorer in the league, calling for the puck with a wide open net and he shoots into legs.
Then he jumps up further knowing no one is behind him and gifts them a break away.
-100 IQ play.
Just awful. I wanted to keep him, but the more he plays this year the more I want him gone.
Auston Matthews, the best goal scorer in the league, calling for the puck with a wide open net and he shoots into legs.
Then he jumps up further knowing no one is behind him and gifts them a break away.
-100 IQ play.
Just awful. I wanted to keep him, but the more he plays this year the more I want him gone.
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The excuses for this clown have been high every year.
Point production low? Excuse: no PP time
Bad defensively? Excuse: it's a rotation. He is following a system.
Weak shot: he uses a long stick.
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I truly believe he is the most overrated defenceman in the league. I mean everyone has him penciled in on their Team Canada Olympic team. It's crazy!
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Such a low IQ play selection. Even if you're going to look off Auston Matthews and wire it, there's time for a pump fake, top corner option there and make sure you don't get shot blocked since it's a 3 on 3 situation. Wasted that entire effort by Marner too.
I am starting to hate Rielly as much as I hated Barrie last year.
No excuse for his poor play when he is expected to lead the d-core.
No excuse for his poor play when he is expected to lead the d-core.
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