Rumor: ALL PURPOSE JT MILLER THREAD PT2 - It's Been 84 Years....

[TBF1972]

I would think the Palat signing puts a nail in the coffin to Miller to a NJ trade.

at the current rate vancouver has to buy out jt miller.

 

[McJedi]

If I’m Pitt, I’d offer Marino + 2 2nd rounders. Not sure you even need the retention.

 

[UrbanImpact]

If I’m Pitt, I’d offer Marino + 2 2nd rounders. Not sure you even need the retention.

The rejected offer of 1st Lundqvist Chytil is better than that. Why would Canucks take that for Miller.


Miller wouldnt be a Canuck today if all it took was a #2/3 Dman and a couple of 2nd rounders to get him.

Heck you can argue the Canucks wouldnt even be getting a profit on their original investment of

1st and 3rd that they traded to Tampa to get Miller originally.

 

[saintunspecified]

The islanders. That doesn’t make them a playoff team.

Of course it does. They'd have all of the elements - top defenders, good center depth, excellent goaltending, and a real scorer on the wing. But I've seen plenty of JT Miller in the east, and ... well, I just don't know if he's suited for the style of play. Tarasenko, otoh...

 

[UrbanImpact]

3 things that might involve Miller.

1. I find it hard to believe that Boston will not be more aggressive on possibly the final year of Bergeron especially with injuries to Marchand and Mcavoy.

2. Washington isnt going to waste an Ovi year especially when he is chasing Gretzky's record. No Backstrom.

3. Lou Lam is in his last year of his contract, new building, missed playoffs, missed out on Gaudreau and other big name free agents. He isnt going to just ride off into the sunset, he is going to make a big splash before summer is over.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

The rejected offer of 1st Lundqvist Chytil is better than that. Why would Canucks take that for Miller.


Miller wouldnt be a Canuck today if all it took was a #2/3 Dman and a couple of 2nd rounders to get him.

Heck you can argue the Canucks wouldnt even be getting a profit on their original investment of

1st and 3rd that they traded to Tampa to get Miller originally.

Canucks would've taken the deal if it involved Schneider.

I think I'd want more than two 2nds (atleast a 1st), but Marino+ is certainly a good enough base to make a deal.

 

[Cogburn]

3 things that might involve Miller.

1. I find it hard to believe that Boston will not be more aggressive on possibly the final year of Bergeron especially with injuries to Marchand and Mcavoy.

2. Washington isnt going to waste an Ovi year especially when he is chasing Gretzky's record. No Backstrom.

3. Lou Lam is in his last year of his contract, new building, missed playoffs, missed out on Gaudreau and other big name free agents. He isnt going to just ride off into the sunset, he is going to make a big splash before summer is over.

A few other additions that could involve Miller's return:

4. Calgary has had Gaudreau walk, leaving them with cap space and a need for a top six player in a bad way.

5. Florida seems to be sniffing around, according to fan interest anyway.

The rumoured declined offer of Lundqvist, Chytil and a 1st from New York and the Hossa base of Christensen, Esposito, Armstrong and Pittsburgh's 1st (from 2009, granted) are making me think Rutherford expects a home run. With Kadri the only real option in free agency, he will probably get his way.

 

[McJedi]

Of course it does. They'd have all of the elements - top defenders, good center depth, excellent goaltending, and a real scorer on the wing. But I've seen plenty of JT Miller in the east, and ... well, I just don't know if he's suited for the style of play. Tarasenko, otoh...

It doesn’t. The East has gotten a lot better around the NYI. A trade for Miller won’t make them any sort of threat to anything other than maybe a 8th seed.

 

[saintunspecified]

It doesn’t. The East has gotten a lot better around the NYI. A trade for Miller won’t make them any sort of threat to anything other than maybe a 8th seed.

Not more convincing the second time. Just the same.

 

[McJedi]

Not more convincing the second time. Just the same.

If you’re an islanders fan, bless your fan heart.

If you’re an increasingly desperate Vancouver fan…. Lol… you’re trying too hard.

 

[Cogburn]

at the current rate vancouver has to buy out jt miller.

Uh, what now?

 

[UrbanImpact]

unless they are posturing, it really is starting to sound like the Canucks had no real intention in trading Miller unless they were blown away with an offer. Offer never came and they might just be just as happy to extend him now.

 

[Cogburn]

If you’re an islanders fan, bless your fan heart.

If you’re an increasingly desperate Vancouver fan…. Lol… you’re trying too hard.

I dunno, watching that little exchange, you're the one that's coming off as desperate.

Seriously though, did you get ghosted in Vancouver or something? Mugged? Did an ex leave you to move here? I can't figure out what the chip on your shoulder is.

 

[McJedi]

I dunno, watching that little exchange, you're the one that's coming off as desperate.

Seriously though, did you get ghosted in Vancouver or something? Mugged? Did an ex leave you to move here? I can't figure out what the chip on your shoulder is.

I’m just someone that realizes JT Miller doesn’t have nearly the value or market Vancouver was hoping he had. It’s amusing to watch this unfold and see this levels of acceptance wash over the Vancouver fan base.

 

[canadianmagpie]

There's some speculation that Carolina is still interested in Klingberg. If they pick him up and have Burns, would there be any interest in moving Pesce in a deal for Miller?

 

[Alluckks]

The rejected offer of 1st Lundqvist Chytil is better than that. Why would Canucks take that for Miller.


Miller wouldnt be a Canuck today if all it took was a #2/3 Dman and a couple of 2nd rounders to get him.

Heck you can argue the Canucks wouldnt even be getting a profit on their original investment of

1st and 3rd that they traded to Tampa to get Miller originally.

That offer isn't there anymore. The Rangers aren't an option anymore. Also your source tweet for offers like that still being there said "probably." It was pure speculation, not sourced material at all.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Caps fan here. Still willing to offer Eller+CMM+1st+ another piece for Miller at 50% retained with an extension in place.

I don’t think that there is a better deal out there. Willing to include another prospect and/or draft pick for retainment if need be.

 

[3rd Sedin]

Caps fan here. Still willing to offer Eller+CMM+1st+ another piece for Miller at 50% retained with an extension in place.

I don’t think that there is a better deal out there. Willing to include another prospect and/or draft pick for retainment if need be.

This Canucks fan would accept that. I think Washington is the most natural fit. The Nucks have about $500k in cap space if I’m not mistaken and this proposal would put us a bit over. We’d need to make one other move to make the cap work.

The other snag is apparently Allvin isn’t allowing other teams to talk extension with him (or teams haven’t approached him about extension talks according to other sources). Whatever the reality is I think it makes sense to allow extension discussions to happen with potential trade partners.

 

[Cogburn]

Caps fan here. Still willing to offer Eller+CMM+1st+ another piece for Miller at 50% retained with an extension in place.

I don’t think that there is a better deal out there. Willing to include another prospect and/or draft pick for retainment if need be.

I'd argue Marino+Pouliot+Pens 1st for an unretained Miller beats that offer. Eller means nothing to us, he is a cap dump for a team with so many forwards, and Marino is coming from a position of need. Iorio would probably get within striking distance of the Pittsburgh deal, which to be honest is less than I'd want to accept for Miller.

Not having a comparable RHD to play now hurts any offer the Capitals could make, but your willingness to go four pieces and the better prospects would help mitigate that. I'd be looking at Iorio+McMicheal+Washington's 1sr for Miller, and what ever is considered an appropriate add for retention and/or a cap dump if needed.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Muzzin for Miller?

 

[Cogburn]

Muzzin for Miller?

Myers for Matthews?

 

[A1LeafNation]

Myers for Matthews?

How is that the same?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Rutherford f***ed up royally here.

Best bet is to hold onto him until the deadline. The offers probably wont be any different at that point and maybe someone really need him and will pay more, even if its only for the quarter season+Playoffs.

 

[Cogburn]

How is that the same?

How was yours not meant to be flaming?

 

[AHLdepth]

I'd argue Marino+Pouliot+Pens 1st for an unretained Miller beats that offer. Eller means nothing to us, he is a cap dump for a team with so many forwards, and Marino is coming from a position of need. Iorio would probably get within striking distance of the Pittsburgh deal, which to be honest is less than I'd want to accept for Miller.

Not having a comparable RHD to play now hurts any offer the Capitals could make, but your willingness to go four pieces and the better prospects would help mitigate that. I'd be looking at Iorio+McMicheal+Washington's 1sr for Miller, and what ever is considered an appropriate add for retention and/or a cap dump if needed.

Let's not re-live that