Player Discussion All Purpose Goaltending Thread

[Fjordsen]

Maybe he trades for a guy like Vladar. But, that's not a move that gives me any more confidence than what they already have in goal.

Maybe DeSmith?

134 GP in NHL - 91.2% SV and 2.81 GAA

 

[Jim Bob]

Maybe DeSmith?

134 GP in NHL - 91.2% SV and 2.81 GAA

He is Vladar-esque for me. He's a career backup coming off of his worst pro season to date.

But, it would likely be a cheap lottery ticket move, so it would fit what Adams has done in goal to date.

 

[Fjordsen]

He is Vladar-esque for me. He's a career backup coming off of his worst pro season to date.

But, it would likely be a cheap lottery ticket move, so it would fit what Adams has done in goal to date.

Well, obviously not for the role of a starter, but rather to split games with Levi. Vladar's question mark is even bigger than DeSmith.

Markstrom has three years left on his contract, not much. MAF would be an ideal pickup, but as I understand it, he does not want to move anywhere.

 

[Jim Bob]

Well, obviously not for the role of a starter, but rather to split games with Levi. Vladar's question mark is even bigger than DeSmith.

Markstrom has three years left on his contract, not much. MAF would be an ideal pickup, but as I understand it, he does not want to move anywhere.

Markstrom has 3 years at $6M AAV. I do not see Adams wanting anything to do with that contract right now. Plus, Markstrom has a NMC. We have seen one goalie black a trade to Buffalo. I would not be shocked if Markstrom blocked a trade, as well.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

I think the simple answer is KA lies. He lies. Last year wasn't an evaluation season, it was because the Pegulas were cheap. This season he says he likes his goalies only because he's lazy and want to be at the lake.

Does that cover all the bases?

 

[Gabrielor]

Maybe if he says that goalie is a position of strength for them long enough people will accept that is how he sees things.

Toronto can come out right now and say 'our cap flexibility is a position of strength, we think'.

Doesn't mean I believe them.

Their goaltending sucked last year. We have the numbers. I don't think this has anything to do with what those articles say. It's all being conservative about the market price, but I think that'll change.

 

[Fjordsen]

Markstrom has 3 years at $6M AAV. I do not see Adams wanting anything to do with that contract right now. Plus, Markstrom has a NMC. We have seen one goalie black a trade to Buffalo. I would not be shocked if Markstrom blocked a trade, as well.

I don’t know how such a contract interferes with us, we have no problems with a cap.

 

[Jim Bob]

I don’t know how such a contract interferes with us, we have no problems with a cap.

The Sabres have less than $6M in cap space today. And with Dahlin, Power, and others getting raises after this season, I doubt they want to add a goalie that is that expensive for the next three years.

 

[Fjordsen]

The Sabres have less than $6M in cap space today. And with Dahlin, Power, and others getting raises after this season, I doubt they want to add a goalie that is that expensive for the next three years.

I don’t see a problem in this, after the next season we will have more than 15 million free and the cap will grow even more. Our roster will mainly be replenished with guys from ELC.

 

[Jim Bob]

I don’t see a problem in this, after the next season we will have more than 15 million free and the cap will grow even more. Our roster will mainly be replenished with guys from ELC.

Adams has been unwilling to add big money, multi-year deals from the outside so far. I doubt that changes for Markstrom who had a really bad year last year. Or Gibson who has struggled for a number of seasons.

 

[Fjordsen]

Adams has been unwilling to add big money, multi-year deals from the outside so far. I doubt that changes for Markstrom who had a really bad year last year. Or Gibson who has struggled for a number of seasons.

Adams wanted to trade for Gibson a year ago, so I'm not sure what you're saying.

 

[Jim Bob]

Adams wanted to trade for Gibson a year ago, so I'm not sure what you're saying.

I never bought that as a realistic option. And I certainly do not buy it now with Adams being all in on Levi.

 

[Fjordsen]

I never bought that as a realistic option. And I certainly do not buy it now with Adams being all in on Levi.

The problem is that he does not support Levi until he finds him a normal goalie in tandem.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

The Sabres have less than $6M in cap space today. And with Dahlin, Power, and others getting raises after this season, I doubt they want to add a goalie that is that expensive for the next three years.

Less than $6M?!?! This makes no sense because the Pegulas are cheap!

 

[joshjull]

 

[TehDoak]

….and he’s on the cam and stick podcast tomorrow

At 2M retained I could be talked into it. As long as his contract isn’t buyout proof loaded with sign on bonuses.

 

[Fjordsen]

I like Gibson and I think he will be good in another team. I think he would be a good addition and it would help Buffalo in the race for playoffs and open up a lot more opportunities in the future.

 

[Jim Bob]

….and he’s on the cam and stick podcast tomorrow

At 2M retained I could be talked into it. As long as his contract isn’t buyout proof loaded with sign on bonuses.

It's straight salary and no signing bonuses. But, it is not front loaded, so that hurts the buyout idea.

The buyout is a $2.133M cap hit for twice the length of the remaining deal.

 

[Zman5778]

So, there's no link or anything. I was in my car on the way home listening to SiriusXM NHL Radio. Dave Pagnotta came on with Kouleas and Mike McKenna.

The only Sabres mention was that we are still "poking around" Hellebuyck. Nothing imminent, but we're still around.

 

[boots electric]

If Buffalo was to trade for Hellebuyck, I'd view it as similar to the Huberdeau situation last summer.

The only correct move is to commit to the guy for the last year of his contract and plan on losing him. If he comes to Buffalo and and has a solid year and has you in the playoffs, great; keep him for the season and then trade his UFA rights to recoup something (assuming he wants more than a 1 or 2 year deal). If he comes to Buffalo and the season goes poorly due to injuries or whatever, retain salary and flip him at the deadline for something juicy.

If you're set on signing the guy to a long-term contract, you're likely going to get burned.

 

[Fjordsen]

So, there's no link or anything. I was in my car on the way home listening to SiriusXM NHL Radio. Dave Pagnotta came on with Kouleas and Mike McKenna.

The only Sabres mention was that we are still "poking around" Hellebuyck. Nothing imminent, but we're still around.

I wonder if Chevy is ready to trade him as rental.

 

[RWatson29]

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Unless they trade for a goalie who also coaches the PK, and teaches backchecking it's not going to make a huge difference.

 

[Zman5778]

Unless they trade for a goalie who also coaches the PK, and teaches backchecking it's not going to make a huge difference.

Backchecking isn't a problem. Mitts/Krebs/Cozens/Tuch/Skinner......they all backcheck like their asses are on fire.

The issue arises once teams get set up in our zone......that's where the issues are.

 

[BuffaloGooner]

There’s data out there that shows Gibson having strong first half numbers followed by brutal second half numbers. Essentially he tires out. He also is good at saving cross slot shots which we give up a lot. That defense doesn’t help him especially last years historically bad showing.

I think he’s good. I think he can come here and start games, pave the way for Levi and eventually settle into the backup role.