Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose "Days of Our Meruelo" Talk

Arizonatah Coyetis

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I don't think the hotel payment issue is about ability to pay. I suspect there was a disagreement and that is the one of AM's tactics in navigating disagreement.
I'm not really defending him, just pointing out that there's a lot of information we don't have.

He was probablyt trying to force his will and strong arm the hotels into giving him better pricing. Wasn't there a story about 4 years ago of him holding out payments to other vendors, to force them to the table?

He sounds like an entitle prick, anyways. Unfortunately the uber-rich get richer doing this stuff all the time.
 

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And yet Glendale still wanted him to sign a 10-15 year lease with Murello? Hmm? I don't think it seems clear at all.
My guess is that there were a lot of legal entanglements from the previous ownership that needed to be ironed out, otherwise Glendale would have never wanted to continue the relationship.

Glendale wanted the 10-15 year lease because they wanted stability and certainty. ESPECIALLY considering that all of the rhetoric from the Ice Clowns, the NHL, and immediately after buying the team Meruelo joined in, that Glendale was not the long-term solution for the team. In other words, it was obvious that the team was angling to leave. Glendale's offer was, "Sign long term here, and we can figure out something that works for all of us. Otherwise, get lost."

I am fully convinced that if the team had signed that lease, Glendale would have responded with all sorts of breaks, subsidies, what have you to be the quid pro quo for the commitment.
 

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Nightlife in SLC isn't quite the same as Scottsdale...which is also why Vegas has been a destination favorite since entering the league.
We should make heaps of money by importing high class escorts and party equipment into SCL and Utah. I project that in 3 years time we can buy back the franchise build an arena and still be swimming in Money.
 

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Obviously. I think most people would prefer Phoenix to SLC for a number of reasons, but I don't think that an area that has supported the NBA for 45 years will be scandalized by hockey players who are generally much more lowkey
Obviously. The point has been why are their reports of players not wanting to go there, a few people here are just sharing reasons why. Phoenix residents are extremely familiar with Mormon culture because the church has a huge presence here too. Fortunately not enough to heavily influence the city as they are still extremely out numbered but there are pockets where they dominate. In fact the Phoenix suburb of Mesa, which is 500k people by itself, is basically Salt Lake City lite.
 

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Obviously. The point has been why are their reports of players not wanting to go there, a few people here are just sharing reasons why. Phoenix residents are extremely familiar with Mormon culture because the church has a huge presence here too. Fortunately not enough to heavily influence the city as they are still extremely out numbered but there are pockets where they dominate. In fact the Phoenix suburb of Mesa, which is 500k people by itself, is basically Salt Lake City lite.

Yep. The Phoenix area is full of Mormon's and disgruntled ex-Mormon's with stories.
 

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With all that's going on behind the scenes, there's probably a gag order in place.

That's because no one can tell us that it isn't true without lying. I think they're past that at this point and are letting things unravel. If there wasn't something to all this, there's no way the NHL would stay quiet and let it continue. They'd at least offer a clarification.
 

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Glendale wanted the 10-15 year lease because they wanted stability and certainty. ESPECIALLY considering that all of the rhetoric from the Ice Clowns, the NHL, and immediately after buying the team Meruelo joined in, that Glendale was not the long-term solution for the team. In other words, it was obvious that the team was angling to leave. Glendale's offer was, "Sign long term here, and we can figure out something that works for all of us. Otherwise, get lost."

I am fully convinced that if the team had signed that lease, Glendale would have responded with all sorts of breaks, subsidies, what have you to be the quid pro quo for the commitment.
My point was more along the lines that if Merullo was so corrupt and untrustworthy, Glendale would not have wanted to be in business with him.
 

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My point was more along the lines that if Merullo was so corrupt and untrustworthy, Glendale would not have wanted to be in business with him.

At the time, nobody had any evidence of his method of doing business, except for refusing outright to pay some outstanding bills from the previous ownership. Naturally, in the years since, we've gotten a whole shitload of receipts piling up that Glendale never had access to.
 
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That's because no one can tell us everything isn't true without lying. I think they're past that at this point and are letting things unravel.
I think not all of the "I's" are dotted, there are still details to be worked out and they don't want to make a premature announcement. If things are settled, they're probably legally not permitted to say anything until the season ends. It's not just Merullo, it's the NHL and Smith.
 
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Arizonatah Coyetis

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I think not all of the "I's" are dotted, there are still details to be worked out and they don't want to make a premature announcement. If things are settled, they're probably legally not permitted to say anything until the season ends. It's not just Merullo, it's the NHL and Smith.

Yep. They've announced that there are a lot of working parts and that there's still work to be done. But I think the team's and the NHL's silence says a lot, and it doesn't say "relax, things aren't what they seem."

Right now I feel like the odds of the team staying are as good as getting struck by lightening or winning the lottery. But it's possible.
 

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Yep. They've announced that there are a lot of working parts and that there's still work to be done. But I think the team's and the NHL's silence says a lot, and it doesn't say "relax, things aren't what they seem."

Right now I feel like the odds of the team staying are as good as getting struck by lightening or winning the lottery.

The "no comment" from the team and the NHL is as much as a confirmation.
 

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