Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose "Days of Our Meruelo" Talk

[The Feckless Puck]

My takeaway from the press conference with AM and Bettman, AM didn't want to announce/disclose the money he was losing. Yes, he was losing money, but he didn't want to put it out there. It's like he didn't care he was losing money, he had a bigger goal in mind. He didn't want sympathy, or trying to use that as leverage to get tax breaks or help from the public.

Or maybe he didn't want to be embarrassed by the fact that he was hemorrhaging cash. Businessmen with egos don't often enjoy looking like they don't know what they're doing.

I still believe he wants to be an NHL owner. That is elite company, to own a professional sports franchise, regardless of the league. He has certain things he needs to work on and fix as a franchise owner, but I don't think he's the villian that a lot of Phoenix fans are saying he is.

His son's the bigger villain, if it comes down to semantics. Alex Sr. is more like a deadbeat dad.

 

[Bondurant]

That's a lot of obstructed seats. Was it that bad at whatever Suns arena was called back in the day?

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I'm looking over the Coyotes attendance records. The biggest drop in attendance happened right after Moyes put the team into bankruptcy. A 2,886 drop in average attendance compared to the year before (14,875 to 11,989 in one season.) After the BK the attendance never rebounded back to where it was prior:

Average attendance pre-bankruptcy = 14,823
Average attendance post-bankruptcy* = 13,110

*Does not include Mullet Arena due to limited seating capacity.

 

[SniperHF]

Want to see something hilarious? I hear Utonians are already shocked at the prices and some are trying to get their deposit back.


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Maybe im crazy but outside of the lower rows of the upper bowl, and the lower corners, these prices seem pretty normal.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Want to see something hilarious? I hear Utonians are already shocked at the prices and some are trying to get their deposit back.


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ungrateful motherf***ers don’t deserve my f***ing team

 

[Dirty Old Man]

That's a lot of obstructed seats. Was it that bad at whatever Suns arena was called back in the day?

I had seats in the non-obstructed end's upper corner, and I barely knew that obstructed view existed. Although, I did go down there once just for grins and thought "Wow, this is bad".

 

[Jakey53]

Man if those are just normal pricing we should have had, I'd be priced out. I think I paid like $7500 for my last pair of season tickets in 109 row C. Granted that was about 14 year ago but damn!

What was your labor rate 14 years ago compared to now?

My takeaway from the press conference with AM and Bettman, AM didn't want to announce/disclose the money he was losing. Yes, he was losing money, but he didn't want to put it out there. It's like he didn't care he was losing money, he had a bigger goal in mind. He didn't want sympathy, or trying to use that as leverage to get tax breaks or help from the public.

I still believe he wants to be an NHL owner. That is elite company, to own a professional sports franchise, regardless of the league. He has certain things he needs to work on and fix as a franchise owner, but I don't think he's the villian that a lot of Phoenix fans are saying he is.

Bettman stated that AM was losing north of 60mil. a year and has kept everything current.

 

[Canis Latrans]

Want to see something hilarious? I hear Utonians are already shocked at the prices and some are trying to get their deposit back.

My understanding with the deposits is it was only $100, it does not commit you to a full season and they likely won't even sell full-season tickets due to trying to get everyone to at least 1 game thus packages, and it isn't refundable, but can go towards tickets.

So 34,000 season ticket deposits is $3,400,000. If memory serves right, you can assume about a $1M on average for a sellout for an NHL team per game in tickets revenue. That's 3-4 games.

They start selling tickets later this week, so you'll see how many commit to full-season tickets soon and how many of those are just some game packs or single games.

My guess is anyone shocked by the price is basically just locked into a single game.

I don't really doubt they'll do well on sales since it's a new market, but you can't totally take away anything meaningful from the data that's out so far, though they've certainly trumpeted it out the media.

 

[Snarky Coyote]

I am curious to see how this is going to play out. I'm not concerned with year 1 I want to see how year 3 turns out. What's done is done, and I am just waiting for the land auction now.

 

[awfulwaffle]

Or maybe he didn't want to be embarrassed by the fact that he was hemorrhaging cash. Businessmen with egos don't often enjoy looking like they don't know what they're doing.

I think he expected to lose money coming in. He's had a knack for turning around hurting businesses and making them profitable. Yes, I know, hockey is a different category, and you can't treat it like your other businesses. But I have to imagine he came in, knowing the finances of the team before buying them, and expecting to take losses.

There is a reason why any attempt to build an arena has an attached residential/commercial component, to help subsidize the cost of the hockey team. If he felt like he would be able to make a profit with just the hockey team, he would just build an arena only.

 

[Jakey53]

Exactly. And this is a market like @Coyotedroppings has been saying that is already fickle with its sports teams. Start the clown show up again, and they'll stay away in droves.

Fans don't give a shit about who owns the franchise, or how they run the franchise, as long as the team WINS. All you have to do is look at the Suns and the Cardinals. Fans will show up if the team wins, or at least is competitive.

 

[AZDesertKnight]

Or maybe he didn't want to be embarrassed by the fact that he was hemorrhaging cash. Businessmen with egos don't often enjoy looking like they don't know what they're doing.



His son's the bigger villain, if it comes down to semantics. Alex Sr. is more like a deadbeat dad.

He's far from a deadbeat dad, he's actually an incredible father from all accounts - to a fault perhaps..

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Lol PHNX hockey having another Utah podcast. Why in the f*** would anyone in Az want to tune into that. The cuck podcast. The come and hang out with your wife’s new boyfriend podcast. Lost a diehard, and I feel bad for Leah that her job is having to cater to these f***ers. Let them start their own podcast if they actually care enough.

 

[lanky]

Lol PHNX hockey having another Utah podcast. Why in the f*** would anyone in Az want to tune into that. The cuck podcast. The come and hang out with your wife’s new boyfriend podcast. Lost a diehard, and I feel bad for Leah that her job is having to cater to these f***ers. Let them start their own podcast if they actually care enough.

It must be coincidence, but in this corner of the internet it feels intentional that they pivot to cover Utah as soon as rt and Grimes launch their endeavour. Like they're staking their claim.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

It must be coincidence, but in this corner of the internet it feels intentional that they pivot to cover Utah as soon as rt and Grimes launch their endeavour. Like they're staking their claim.

Good for them. I have no intention of following the team in Utah in any positive capacity but still, good for them for starting that.

 

[AZDesertKnight]

Lol PHNX hockey having another Utah podcast. Why in the f*** would anyone in Az want to tune into that. The cuck podcast. The come and hang out with your wife’s new boyfriend podcast. Lost a diehard, and I feel bad for Leah that her job is having to cater to these f***ers. Let them start their own podcast if they actually care enough.

If their show is regular updates on Utah, I'm pulling my PHNX sub. Couldn't care less about any of the former players.. obviously.

Hopefully Josh Doan makes his way back to NHL AZ 2.0 at some point though

 

[TheLegend]

Lol PHNX hockey having another Utah podcast. Why in the f*** would anyone in Az want to tune into that. The cuck podcast. The come and hang out with your wife’s new boyfriend podcast. Lost a diehard, and I feel bad for Leah that her job is having to cater to these f***ers. Let them start their own podcast if they actually care enough.

Then...... don't...... watch.....

 

[TheLegend]

If their show is regular updates on Utah, I'm pulling my PHNX sub. Couldn't care less about any of the former players.. obviously.

Hopefully Josh Doan makes his way back to NHL AZ 2.0 at some point though

They had a pre-recorded segment with BA today.

They "plan" to talk about hockey in general..... including ASU and other programs around the state.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

How many days until the land auction?
Maybe Anthony LeBlanc will save the day.

 

[Bondurant]

How many days until the land auction?
Maybe Anthony LeBlanc will save the day.

June 27? Tis what the title says.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Two weeks.

(plus six days.)

 

[TheLegend]

Craig said in Discord he heard from XG on Monday that he will be there with the Meruelos.

My guess is to kneecap the opposition bidders but that’s only a theory.

 

[AZviaNJ]

If their show is regular updates on Utah, I'm pulling my PHNX sub. Couldn't care less about any of the former players.. obviously.

Hopefully Josh Doan makes his way back to NHL AZ 2.0 at some point though

Doan Jr may need to play until 39 like his dad if he wants to be part of AZ2.0

Craig said in Discord he heard from XG on Monday that he will be there with the Meruelos.

My guess is to kneecap the opposition bidders but that’s only a theory.

XG attendance will be like pouring fuel on a fire.

 

[TheLegend]

XG attendance will be like pouring fuel on a fire.

My real guess is he’s going to run interference for Senior to keep the press access limited.

 

[Mosby]

$150 to watch the Roadrunners. Is Meruelo insane? The very best seat should be like 50.