Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose "Days of Our Meruelo" Talk

[Coyotedroppings]

I'm sorry I'm late for work this morning. I got rear ended on the way in.

@Coyotedroppings : "Excuses, excuses, excuses!"

LOL, you just can't help yourself, can you?

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

LOL, you just can't help yourself, can you?

"EXCUSE!!!"

"There is no reason, only excuses!"

Edit: No, I can't help myself. I laugh every time you excuse things by labeling it an excuse.

 

[TheLegend]

That's the problem with this town, there's just not enough people who like syphillis packed violent burrito diarrhea.

It's the hot item this year, I've been told.

Just remember the Cardinals almost played their games at Pink Taco Stadium.

 

[TheLegend]

The game is afoot boys and girls......

 

[MayDayMayDay]

The game is afoot boys and girls......

How would he know this? Thought Craig said we wouldn't know other bidders till day of.

 

[TheLegend]

How would he know this? Thought Craig said we wouldn't know other bidders till day of.

Rodier has connections.

He followed up saying he has no knowledge of who these other groups are.

 

[Jakey53]

Do you even think about what you post or do you just vomit up every half-baked thought you have? Google takes a microsecond to tell you information.

Yeah, rough four seasons. Highest four winning percentages in the history of the Coyotes. Made the playoffs 3 of those 4. Missed the playoffs in the lockout-shortened season by 5 points. Real shitty operation by the NHL.

Coincidentally, three of those were the 3 lowest-attended seasons other than the two in Mullett. So maybe winning doesn't solve the problem, eh?

It's not just about the "moment," rather what happened leading up to the moment and after. The way you are talking you were quite happy with the way the NHL ran the team. Now, that will make anyone vomit.

 

[Jakey53]

The game is afoot boys and girls......

If AM doesn't win the auction I'm not sure how much I will watch Utah, or the NHL knowing we won't have a team here for years. I'm a hockey fan, but it doesn't consume my life like some others, especially at my age.
I think all the years of BS surrounding the Coyote's had a bit to do with it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Life is too short.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

Rodier has connections.

He followed up saying he has no knowledge of who these other groups are.

Well then.

Two weeks. (And a day).

 

[Jakey53]

The game is afoot boys and girls......

Do you know if the bidders have to submit a "plan" for the area? I know whoever wins has to develop the area, but develop it how?

 

[Mosby]

The game is afoot boys and girls......

He's going to f*** this up. Do we know what the benchmarks are in his agreement with the NHL? For instance, if he loses the auction, does he get time (and if so, how much) to find a new site before the NHL pulls his rights to an AZ franchise, thus opening the door for other suitors to take on the market?

 

[DustyDangler]

He's going to f*** this up.

Why yes, yes he will. Of the few things I am confident of in life, this is on the short list.

 

[TheLegend]

Then again…. Rodier may have his bidders confused. Although these groups are big hitters.

Three Major Bidders Going for N. Phoenix Land Auction - AZBEX

By BEX Staff for AZBEX An upcoming Arizona State Land Department auction of more than 2,340 acres southwest of Interstate 17 and Carefree Highway, adjacent to the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company campus, has drawn a short but impressive collection of qualified bidders. The minimum bid...

azbex.com

Edit: That auction took place already on 5/29.

Edit 2: That auction drew ONE bid from the original applicant.

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

The game is afoot boys and girls......

1. Knew it.
2. Meruelo's not going to win.
3. We'll hear how he "has an alternate site to pivot to" and "he wants to bring the NHL back to the Valley."
4. That never happens.
5. The NHL never returns.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

5. The NHL never returns.

Would you?

Do you know if the bidders have to submit a "plan" for the area? I know whoever wins has to develop the area, but develop it how?

Yes, they do, at least that is my recollection.

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Would you?

Nope. Bettman gave it a bigger chance to work than likely anyone else on the planet would have, and it didn't. He can say all he wants that they want to be in this market, but no one in their right mind would try to put a team here again.

 

[Jakey53]

He's going to f*** this up. Do we know what the benchmarks are in his agreement with the NHL? For instance, if he loses the auction, does he get time (and if so, how much) to find a new site before the NHL pulls his rights to an AZ franchise, thus opening the door for other suitors to take on the market?

I believe AM has a 5 yr. window.

 

[Fyreman]

My 2 cents, I believe AM won't even bid on it. We (or me at least) were played like a fiddle....

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I think it's more likely that AM develops the land without an arena than not even showing up to bid. Don't think the Coyotes are the only reason he wants that land.

We'll see!

 

[finkelsteinberg]

$150 to watch the Roadrunners. Is Meruelo insane? The very best seat should be like 50.

I think $150 may have been the all inclusive seats (apparently just food, with Yotes it was Food + Drink). I bought 2 tickets in row 10 essentially (whatever that letter) for $760 ($10 fee) for the 6 games.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Nope. Bettman gave it a bigger chance to work than likely anyone else on the planet would have, and it didn't. He can say all he wants that they want to be in this market, but no one in their right mind would try to put a team here again.

I agree, but hope we're both wrong.

 

[finkelsteinberg]

I believe AM has a 5 yr. window.

He has a 5 year window but from everything I read and Go PHNX he has to give his notice with 18 mos that he wants the expansion team. So it is unclear if he really has 3.5 years to have an arena 50%~ done or what.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

IIRC AM has a 2 year window. The deal falls apart if AM doesn’t meet the 2 (or was it 2.5) year benchmark.

 

[Canis Latrans]

He has a 5 year window but from everything I read and Go PHNX he has to give his notice with 18 mos that he wants the expansion team. So it is unclear if he really has 3.5 years to have an arena 50%~ done or what.

That's the major milestone he has to meet, but I don't know if it was clear whether he could hit 50% done 1 day prior to the 5 year mark and have made the notice in the 5 year window, in which case he might have 6.5 years in total.

We don't know the whole set of milestones he has to meet though. If he doesn't win the auction, you have to think he's either already out or has to, very quickly, find a new location and secure it with all the approvals for building.

I'm curious if his 5 year window just goes away as soon as he misses something or if he gets to retain the intellectual property rights to the team for the remainder of the 5 years and then it reverts back to the NHL. Importantly, it could mean he's out and loses it, so another group could step in sooner.

 

[Jakey53]

He has a 5 year window but from everything I read and Go PHNX he has to give his notice with 18 mos that he wants the expansion team. So it is unclear if he really has 3.5 years to have an arena 50%~ done or what.

I think it's 18 month notice to re-activate the franchise. He's not going to re-activate the franchise without having the arena close to being finished.