Post-Game Talk: All Good Things…

[Heavy Dee]

I'm not, not at all, because we've mortaged even next year salary cap paying for duds like Connor Brown. Who curiously doesn't see any criticism here despite giving puck over several times in own zone and getting worked off puck several times in ozone. But the broadcast keeps lauding his play. lol

As another poster mentioned the winning goal was one that Skinner would want to have. That he let the shot in shortside was a poor read on the play. Its where it was going the whole time. His positioning was wrong and the only degree of difficulty there was the fly by screen. Something Hill had been staring at most of the night.

But you aren't gonna find an Adin Hill on trade deadline day. Who do you think is attainable that is an upgrade in Skinner that is as good as Hill?

I will hang up and listen lol.

 

[McTonyBrar]

They need Gagner for the scoring because Brown is a blackhole

Brown can penalty kill very well. Gagner can barely skate anymore. He would've got manhandled tonight

 

[syz]

Yeah let's call up Campbell right..? Lolll. You blame Skinner but not Ceci for not sticking to his man?

Learn to read.

 

[Ninety7]

Draisailt just hasn’t really looked himself this year. Granted he’s had to drag the corpse of Brown for a good chunk of the start of the season, and then he’s constantly paired with a guy who should be in the bottom 6. Kinda sucks but at this point I think it’s fair to expect more from him given the caliber of player he has proved to be.

 

[MessierII]

You're not wrong about your first point and thats obvious in the underlying numbers of this game where Edmonton heavily outchanced them. I'm just pointing out this wasn't a goaltending performance for the ages. Hill was very good, no question, but Edmonton was very bad at finishing all the chances they created. I know the difference in a game where a goalie is just stopping every perfectly placed shot and it just seems impossible to score, and what I witnessed tonight which was Edmonton missing wide open look after wide open look, and wide open net after wide open net, and post after post.

Hill read the play perfectly in some really good chances. We should have had a couple regardless though. Couple posts and misses.

 

[Old Boys Club]

Whole bunch of guys need to be better. Some pretty poor games from the upper players on the team.

VGK are about one of 3 teams in the league that you can't beat without a good game from everyone on the roster. Just comes down to whether the team can put that together come may, and also if Holland can find some better pieces to replace Ceci.

Additionlly, a game like this shows why the reg. season means next to nothing. Teams effort completely varies by opponent. VGK played game 7 of a playoff series tonight, but watch them against Arizona next game and they'll mail it in.

Thankfully there's plenty of time for tinkering until may.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I’m crying thinking about Ceci missing the net by about 8ft tonight Lmao.

 

[harpoon]

Spector asking every player the same question about running out of luck, like he is being profoundly insightful.

Like McDavid’s post game interview. He seemed very calm and determined. Sounded like good leadership to me.

 

[iCanada]

I'm not, not at all, because we've mortaged even next year salary cap paying for duds like Connor Brown. Who curiously doesn't see any criticism here despite giving puck over several times in own zone and getting worked off puck several times in ozone. But the broadcast keeps lauding his play. lol

As another poster mentioned the winning goal was one that Skinner would want to have. That he let the shot in shortside was a poor read on the play. Its where it was going the whole time. His positioning was wrong and the only degree of difficulty there was the fly by screen. Something Hill had been staring at most of the night.

Yeah - that's fair on the window due to brown.

I also agree - I thought Hill made several stops harder than both goals Skinner let in. I honestly thought the first goal was kind of weak too, to be honest, we had the same opportunity a few times and the puck stuck to Hill where Skinner let it get back to the slot.

That said - to be clear, as for some reason every one thinks I hate the guy - I don't think he was bad. You expect a bad bounce or two. But hockey , and hell Goaltending in general, is weird that way - if the other guy is flawless you can't be just average regardless of how good your team is otherwise, you have to be atleast nearly flawless yourself.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Hill read the play perfectly in some really good chances. We should have had a couple regardless though. Couple posts and misses.

Leon and McLeod empty net misses ughhh that second period would've changed a lot of this game.

Wow Vinny had 15+ minutes in ice time

 

[mkatcherin00]

Yeah let's call up Campbell right..? Lolll. You blame Skinner but not Ceci for not sticking to his man?

Was Ceci the idiot who got lost on that goal? Lol. I already forgot. Just quickly seen a Vegas player wide open at the bottom of the slot. There really was no gap control there

 

[FlameChampion]

Draisailt just hasn’t really looked himself this year. Granted he’s had to drag the corpse of Brown for a good chunk of the start of the season, and then he’s constantly paired with a guy who should be in the bottom 6. Kinda sucks but at this point I think it’s fair to expect more from him given the caliber of player he has proved to be.

Kinda feels like he needs a winger who can drive play a bit. I think he also needs some speed on his wings to force him to play a bit faster. I like McLeod with him but we are lacking a 3C then.

 

[5 14 6 1]

Like McDavid’s post game interview. He seemed very calm and determined. Sounded like good leadership to me.

Same as Ekholms. Business

 

[oobga]

Was Ceci the idiot who got lost on that goal? Lol. I already forgot. Just quickly seen a Vegas player wide open at the bottom of the slot. There really was no gap control there

If Nurse had a D partner that can actually play D and block shots, that Chandler goal isn't happening. Ceci just does a coast behind the net and then perfect coast across Skinner's view as the one timer is being taken. What a turd .

 

[McFlyingV]

Fair enough. good points made. Anyway I think the game was pretty damn solid and both teams can be OK with the kind of game they played. Thought it was a bit off for McD to be so angry post game. I thought the team was solid.

Agreed. It was a good game. Obviously Vegas would look better with Eichel and Theodore in, as they should given that Edmonton outplayed them heavily this game.

Edmonton wasn't far off beating them last year with a full roster, and if not for that 5 on 3 in game 5 the series very well may have gone Edmonton's way. We'll see what Edmonton does leading up to the deadline. What I will say is Edmonton was not far off last year despite getting poor goaltending in the playoffs. I trust this year's Oilers defensive play a lot more than last years. If they can get even just solid goaltending in the playoffs they have as good a chance as anyone in this matchup.

 

[Kamus]

8 game winning streak…
16 game winning streak…
24 game winning streak…?

That’s ridiculous and wrong.




It’s doubling:
8 games
16 games
32 games

 

[harpoon]

This probably upset me the most along with Ceci's performance. Nuge lost every single battle I saw, just not good enough.

Everybody hates Ceci. Meanwhile Ekholm getting a free pass from the board for what was a pretty poor game by his standards. Failed to mark his man on the first goal and got out skated several times on the outside. Poor pass selection as well. I’d give him a 3/10 for his game tonight.

 

[Zguy370]

Posts like this are pathetic. Drai was making plays all over the ice and stripped what would have been another GA late in the game with solid backchecking. He was heavily marked, as was McD, and pairing them as game progressed was a mistake this time.

But its always Drai to some people.

We lose this game because of Adin Hill and being goalied again. Which isn't a mirage as Adin Hill is a better goalie than Stu Skinner everytime he faces him. lol at the broadcast all day trying to sell this as some premium goalie matchup. If Skinner was in Vegas net we score 7 goals tonight.

Just ridiculous at the criticism that Drai keeps getting. It's basically so evident that if McDrai are not on their A game every game, their bashed for it, even though they'll play well enough, like tonight, but hay we lost so whose to blame? Draisaitl of course.

Meanwhile someone like Nuge with one goal in his last 11 games, a PP goal, while playing on the top line, always seems to be absolved from any criticism, it's always crickets when it comes to him somehow.

Definitely agree with your take on Skinner btw haha

 

[LTIR]

I think lines need to juggle a bit.

Foegele-Holloway-McLeod should be together. It will be speedy and can cycle.
Hyman-McDavid-Perry
Kane-Drai'Nuge

Perry and Kane can swap if needed.

Get Brown out of 4th line for Gagner. profit!!

McD and Drai showed they can be on the PK unit. Holloway and Hyman can do it as well. Mighty Brown isn't needed.

 

[mkatcherin00]

Kinda feels like he needs a winger who can drive play a bit. I think he also needs some speed on his wings to force him to play a bit faster. I like McLeod with him but we are lacking a 3C then.

Wasn't it him foegele Mcleod that looked great? I Remeber saying leon looked like the weak link on it. That's how well the other two were playing together

 

[McFlyingV]

Hill read the play perfectly in some really good chances. We should have had a couple regardless though. Couple posts and misses.

Yeah no doubt he was very good in the 3rd period and had some other good stops earlier in the game. He also got bailed out/lucky on at least 4 different occasions between 2 wide open nets and 2 clean beat posts. If even 2 of those go in we win the game tonight and nobody in here is talking about how we can't solve Hill. Thats the way it goes for goalies some nights. Sometimes you can get beat over and over or be out of position and get bailed out, and sometimes every single one of those is going in.

He's a tough goalie to beat, but the Oilers can score on him, and Iike their chances a lot better to win a 3-2 or 2-1 game this year than in previous years.

 

[iCanada]

But you aren't gonna find an Adin Hill on trade deadline day. Who do you think is attainable that is an upgrade in Skinner that is as good as Hill?

I will hang up and listen lol.

I honestly think Gibson is possibly that guy.

He's a weird goaltender - I feel like he's always a beast when the game is close and then implodes when the ducks are out of it. I think there's a chance if you put him on a contender he's the second coming of Fuhr.

He's one of the few guys in the league today with the same level of mental intensity / burn as McDavid.

There is obviously some risk there, and he's also got an NTC.

 

[LTIR]

Everybody hates Ceci. Meanwhile Ekholm getting a free pass from the board for what was a pretty poor game by his standards. Failed to mark his man on the first goal and got out skated several times on the outside. Poor pass selection as well. I’d give him a 3/10 for his game tonight.

Ceci can't be defended tonight due to his glaring mistakes. But yes Ekholm did not look good tonight. Even Bouchard looked more poised than him. Hopefully just some rust that will hopefully come off.

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

Give me Henrique AND Toffoli. I don't think an upgrade on Ceci is necessary or realistic.

Hyman McDavid Toffoli
RNH Drai Kane
Foegele Henrique Holloway
Janmark McLeod Perry
Gagner Ryan
Brown in the AHL or traded out.

 

[Soundwave]

Everybody hates Ceci. Meanwhile Ekholm getting a free pass from the board for what was a pretty poor game by his standards. Failed to mark his man on the first goal and got out skated several times on the outside. Poor pass selection as well. I’d give him a 3/10 for his game tonight.

Ekholm honestly doesn't play that well against Vegas it seems like.