Post-Game Talk: All Good Things…

[bobbythebrain]

When Amadio is out hustling Nuge you can see the subtle mindset. Nuge had 3 plays where he got owned with effort, and Amadio made 3 massive plays on Drai

This team is a hair away from a few guys wanting it more

 

[guymez]

Well...that was disappointing but it had to end sometime.
Tough to wait that long for a game only to have the team lose and end a potential record tying win streak.

Playoff feel to this game and like so many times when there is a playoff style game Vegas comes out on top.
Even with their best forward and one of their best dmen out of the lineup they are still able to suffocate their way to victory against the NHL's best team in 2024.
The Vegas defenders rarely give up a second and 3rd chance opportunity.
They dont give up much and when they do Hill cleans up the mess.

The Oilers didnt play a bad game at all although I do think that they didnt do nearly enough with their chances in the first 2 periods. The other thing is when the Oilers did break down...like with Ceci and Foegele on the game winning goal...it was a major breakdown.

The gap is closing though but we have to remember that was not the best version of Vegas tonight. When they get Eichel and Martinez back they will be an even better team.
This game could have gone either way though. The Oilers are right there.
The Oilers have a little more work to do and much of that lies with Holland.

 

[Old Boys Club]

Need Ceci upgrade, that much has been obvious for 2 years.

 

[McHelpus]

That Janmark - Ryan - Brown line was obviously an issue. That can't be the 4th line in the playoffs. That said, I fully expect the team to add a player or two who will help round out the forward group.

They need Gagner for the scoring because Brown is a blackhole

 

[Drivesaitl]

Vegas posts were dramatically different than the Oilers posts, and their posts were debatable if they even hit iron. Bouchard's shot hit the inside of the post and came out the other side and Hill wasn't even close to touching it. Same for McDavid's when he left a good 8 inches open above his shoulder and didn't even move.

Regardless the Oilers didn't lose tonight on goaltending. They lost it by missing wide open nets and a game of inches. Obviously that happens sometimes in hockey so its whatever, but anyone claiming we got goalied tonight must have turned that game on in the 3rd period.

Bouchard has a premium shot. Thats just further supporting my argument that Hill is facing a whole lot more challenges (and owning them) than Skinner is facing playing Vegas -Eichel, Theodore, etc.

Its silly to say the Oilers didn't lose on goaltending when the best player on the ice by miles was Adin Hill. He made several spectacular stops. Underrated as well how much he blocks out around net. The Oilers WERE going to the net, Adin HIll was stopping all of it and multiple times 3 saves in succession. Hill was gold. I think its fair to acknowledge it and we've seen it a lot before.

 

[Navx94]

Rather lose like and show Holland we have room for improvement than keep winning and not improve anything.

 

[iCanada]

Sure he deserves credit and I'd given him that several times over the stretch. But its a double edged sword. The streak, and how the media were manufacturing it to be about Skinner troubles me, if only because it may well dissuade the org from getting a premium goalie around TDL. We need somebody else to take us to the dance now. Skinner isn't that guy even if he might be the future guy. I could see Skinner being solved again in 7 game series.

I'm ok gambling on Skinner as a youngster stepping up to be that guy in the playoffs - particularly if that means we get to get an actual Ceci upgrade. It's been known to happen that guys blossom into that during a series.

I do think you need a better backup plan than Pickard though. I wouldn't mind running like Skinner / Fleury or something.

 

[CycloneSweep]

If we had scored on the chances in the 2nd period, this game would've been ours.


Have the Oiler complainers AKA haters come out yet?

”If we scored, we would have won”

 

[McHelpus]

When Amadio is out hustling Nuge you can see the subtle mindset. Nuge had 3 plays where he got owned with effort, and Amadio made 3 massive plays on Drai

This team is a hair away from a few guys wanting it more

This probably upset me the most along with Ceci's performance. Nuge lost every single battle I saw, just not good enough.

 

[oobga]

Spector asking every player the same question about running out of luck, like he is being profoundly insightful.

 

[iCanada]

”If we scored, we would have won”

And here I thought we hired the coach that finally just knew we needed to score more than the other team.

 

[Oilhawks]

Spector asking every player the same question about running out of luck.

They need to flush this turd. I think an actual turd may be a better reporter at this point

 

[DrDrai]

There is the trade list, hello Adam Henrique lol.

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[Drivesaitl]

I'm ok gambling on Skinner as a youngster stepping up to be that guy in the playoffs - particularly if that means we get to get an actual Ceci upgrade. It's been known to happen that guys blossom into that during a series.

I do think you need a better backup plan than Pickard though. I wouldn't mind running like Skinner / Fleury or something.

I'm not, not at all, because we've mortaged even next year salary cap paying for duds like Connor Brown. Who curiously doesn't see any criticism here despite giving puck over several times in own zone and getting worked off puck several times in ozone. But the broadcast keeps lauding his play. lol

As another poster mentioned the winning goal was one that Skinner would want to have. That he let the shot in shortside was a poor read on the play. Its where it was going the whole time. His positioning was wrong and the only degree of difficulty there was the fly by screen. Something Hill had been staring at most of the night.

 

[McFlyingV]

Bouchard has a premium shot. Thats just further supporting my argument that Hill is facing a whole lot more challenges (and owning them) than Skinner is facing playing Vegas -Eichel, Theodore, etc.

Its silly to say the Oilers didn't lose on goaltending when the best player on the ice by miles was Adin Hill. He made several spectacular stops. Underrated as well how much he blocks out around net. The Oilers WERE going to the net, Adin HIll was stopping all of it and multiple times 3 saves in succession. Hill was gold. I think its fair to acknowledge it and we've seen it a lot before.

You're not wrong about your first point and thats obvious in the underlying numbers of this game where Edmonton heavily outchanced them. I'm just pointing out this wasn't a goaltending performance for the ages. Hill was very good, no question, but Edmonton was very bad at finishing all the chances they created. I know the difference in a game where a goalie is just stopping every perfectly placed shot and it just seems impossible to score, and what I witnessed tonight which was Edmonton missing wide open look after wide open look, and wide open net after wide open net, and post after post.

 

[McTonyBrar]

The Holloway line should've got more ice time

 

[FlameChampion]

They need Gagner for the scoring because Brown is a blackhole

I love Gagner but I don’t think hes an answer in the playoffs either. But at least he would add some offense at the moment.

The PK is one of the reasons for our streak. Brown, Janmark and Ryan have done their job well there. But its a bit of a conundrum when they aren’t making much of a difference outside the PK. Not sure its any sign for long term success.

 

[mkatcherin00]

When Amadio is out hustling Nuge you can see the subtle mindset. Nuge had 3 plays where he got owned with effort, and Amadio made 3 massive plays on Drai

This team is a hair away from a few guys wanting it more

Yup. That is nuges biggest fault. In a tight playoff game, I know he will be losing a lot of board battles

 

[Drivesaitl]

That Janmark - Ryan - Brown line was obviously an issue. That can't be the 4th line in the playoffs. That said, I fully expect the team to add a player or two who will help round out the forward group.

Janmark tried hard and made some plays and almost scored on a back in. Was a great play and he made some good feeds too. But Ryan and Brown are absolutely done. We can't have a line like that.

I mean we're seeing the best ever play from guys like McLeod and Foegele giving us some winger support. But we have obvious non starters in the lineup.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I'm not, not at all, because we've mortaged even next year salary cap paying for duds like Connor Brown. Who curiously doesn't see any criticism here despite giving puck over several times in own zone and getting worked off puck several times in ozone. But the broadcast keeps lauding his play. lol

As another poster mentioned the winning goal was one that Skinner would want to have. That he let the shot in shortside was a poor read on the play. Its where it was going the whole time. His positioning was wrong and the only degree of difficulty there was the fly by screen. Something Hill had been staring at most of the night.

Lmaooo so we've gone to blaming Skinner now. Let me guess...


Soundwave got his chance and he's jumping with joy?

 

[alanschu]

Plays Taps

 

[Gordy Elbows]

Good teams beat good teams. We can all hate Vegas as much as we want but have to acknowledge they are good.

Analyze, adjust, and figure out how to beat these guys.

Hopefully this is just fuel to McDavid fire. Someone get drai some smelling salts though. That game was woof

I like our chances with Knoblauch as coach. Vegas is a hard team to beat when it counts. They have to be figured out and then countered in order to win.
Holland and Jackson can focus on team upgrades that we need and Knoblauch can take it from there.
It’s doable if everyone does their part.

 

[McTonyBrar]

GWG wasn't great and the other guy was a lot better, though I think the forwards deserve a lot of blame for not being able to elevate the puck all game. Lots of stuff along the ice for Hill to handle from what I saw. Other than Drai missing an empty net.

Yeah let's call up Campbell right..? Lolll. You blame Skinner but not Ceci for not sticking to his man?

 

[Drivesaitl]

You're not wrong about your first point and thats obvious in the underlying numbers of this game where Edmonton heavily outchanced them. I'm just pointing out this wasn't a goaltending performance for the ages. Hill was very good, no question, but Edmonton was very bad at finishing all the chances they created. I know the difference in a game where a goalie is just stopping every perfectly placed shot and it just seems impossible to score, and what I witnessed tonight which was Edmonton missing wide open look after wide open look, and wide open net after wide open net, and post after post.

Fair enough. good points made. Anyway I think the game was pretty damn solid and both teams can be OK with the kind of game they played. Thought it was a bit off for McD to be so angry post game. I thought the team was solid.

 

[MessierII]

I liked the look of the third line tonight. Perry with the speedy young guys could be deadly if they can dial in some shots in tight.