CaseyMitts37
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His brother will most likely never get a contract though, so that's really irrelevant
Rumor: All Encompassing Jimmy Vesey Thread. All Rumors/News goes here. Part VI
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His brother will most likely never get a contract though, so that's really irrelevant
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Tyler2829
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He's a New England scout for the Leafs, so he lives in Boston. And his brother is already rumored to be taking the UFA route as well.
But, trying to ignore your bias...
He better be a pretty DAMN good player... And I mean top 6 quality if he thinks so highly of himself that he should draw this out as long as it has been.
Going to be pretty embarrassing if he's not fit for the league, which is very possibly the case.
As long as possible?
the kid is making a very important decision and he met with a bunch of teams and took one day to probably look over and discuss all the offers with the people in his life.
Have you ever read about Vesey? I haven't ready many, if any reports of him being a top line type of player. Teams want him because he is an NHL ready young player who really should be entering his prime and all it costs is money. I expect him to play on either a team's 2nd or 3rd line.
The hype is not that he is an elite player, it is that he looks like he has some legit skills, plays a 200 foot game and is NHL ready and no team has to give up any assets to get him. If he doesn't end up as good as everyone hopes then he is only a $925,000 cap hit. It is a can't lose situation for any team who signs him.
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These threads are awesome, GOAT threads imo.
People are getting so mad about a person taking 4 days to decide where he wants to start his adult life, as they sit on their laptop in their own filth drinking a pud.
Grade A lol
People are getting so mad about a person taking 4 days to decide where he wants to start his adult life, as they sit on their laptop in their own filth drinking a pud.
Grade A lol
MayDay
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What brought the Neanderthals out again this morning? Handshakes? Loyalty to the teams that drafted or traded for your rights? Character issues?
More like cognition issues on the part of the posters.
Any player can do what Vesey did: go get a four-year university degree (Harvard will do - I've heard it's a pretty good school); play intercollegiate hockey all along the way; take the risk that you might get injured or never get a pro contract for want of opportunity or ability; distinguish yourself in your play (a Hobey Baker did the trick for Vesey); actually graduate (as many, many don't ever graduate); and then see what your options are. Piece of cheese, eh?
If you're angry and jealous of Vesey, just go do what he did: follow that path yourself! Nothing stopping anyone from doing that.
Personally, I think Vesey deserves one hell of a lot of credit for what he's done and any derision heaped upon him is ignorant and misplaced.
I don't know what kind of hockey player he will be but it really doesn't matter.
I do know what kind of character he has: he finishes what he starts; he keeps his commitments; and he makes sound, reasoned decisions. He has certainly earned my respect.
More like cognition issues on the part of the posters.
Any player can do what Vesey did: go get a four-year university degree (Harvard will do - I've heard it's a pretty good school); play intercollegiate hockey all along the way; take the risk that you might get injured or never get a pro contract for want of opportunity or ability; distinguish yourself in your play (a Hobey Baker did the trick for Vesey); actually graduate (as many, many don't ever graduate); and then see what your options are. Piece of cheese, eh?
If you're angry and jealous of Vesey, just go do what he did: follow that path yourself! Nothing stopping anyone from doing that.
Personally, I think Vesey deserves one hell of a lot of credit for what he's done and any derision heaped upon him is ignorant and misplaced.
I don't know what kind of hockey player he will be but it really doesn't matter.
I do know what kind of character he has: he finishes what he starts; he keeps his commitments; and he makes sound, reasoned decisions. He has certainly earned my respect.
kb
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Not one person has said this....outside of other fanbases. Which are then held up as "ridiculous Leaf fans saying they will win the cup with (insert name here)".
Whether Vesey goes to TO or not...it doesn't change the makeup of the team very much. But it could be a great opportunity for him to learn under a good coach and play for a team with up and coming youngsters like himself.
But I still say the Leafs are on the outside looking in wrt Vesey.
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Just because he is a scout for the Leafs, doesn't mean he lives in Toronto. And his brother probably has no NHL future.
CaseyMitts37
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Maybe to the Austria Hockey League, his brother put up 11 points in 36 games for U Maine. He was 6th in scoring on his team. What NHL team would want him?
NastyNick
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Pittsburgh would honestly make too much sense. Join a team that just won the cup and is nearly 100% the same. Audition for Chris Kunitz spot (whose likely gone after this year) on Sidney Crosby's wing.
Plus the brand new training facilities in Cranberry - hard to imagine any other team topping that.
But he'll sign with the Bruins and suck, and they'll suck too. Thats just the way life goes.
Plus the brand new training facilities in Cranberry - hard to imagine any other team topping that.
But he'll sign with the Bruins and suck, and they'll suck too. Thats just the way life goes.
PemIceKing
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Do you have a source? I read these boards religiously and have not read that once.......or any other Toronto media source for that matter.
I personally don't like the fact that players like Vesey can become UFA's at this age...but can't fault him for doing something that is allowed in the CBA. It's up the owners/players to make this change - maybe make it that college players can't become unrestricted until one year after their senior season.
Anyway, I don't see how Vesey is wanting to be the center of attention in any of this. He's taking a few days to talk to teams a make a huge decision. What's the problem with that?
PemIceKing
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Perhaps Jimmy Vesey coming to Toronto might help the younger Brother in some capacity in the future. Who knows. Just make a decision already.
I think he's mistaking the Flyers fans still singing the blues over Lindros and lost chances at Cups.
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Yeah... and he chose to graduate. God forbid...
Once you get to that point, do you sign with who ever drafted you just so that you dont get peoples panties in a knot? Or do you take advantage of your CBA given rights and put yourself in the best position to succeed for your career?
He owes nothing to Nashville and nothing to Buffalo. It's his career, and he can take it wherever he chooses to, as is permitted by the CBA.
PemIceKing
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In my opinion, I do see a fit with Toronto. I also disagree with your comment about most people on the Leaf board agreeing there is no fit. I do not see the Leaf boards leaning one way or another to be honest.
That is it in a nutshell. I really don't think many here understand how collective bargaining works. Or refuse to acknowledge it for some reason.
What Vesey is doing is exercising his right as agreed upon. As a matter of fact the NHLPA/players had to give up something to attain this. That's how it works. want to change it? What are you offering to do so? Owners gotta give up something if its important to them.
It's no different than say when a team buys a player out at a discount. Sucks to be that player that you didn't get what was originally promised. But hey, it was agreed to in the bargain.
If anything he and his agents are following the CBA to a 'T' and are being very quiet about the whole thing. They said he was going UFA. Waited for teams to make their pitch. Now give us a few days to decide. That's it. Nothing else from them.
The rest is every nitwit that can tweet.
Frankly I may miss all this when said and done. Only because I find it fascinating as to how many don't know what its all about - facts- and what they think it is.
kb
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But I honestly do not understand the reasoning for people so against him going to Toronto. It makes absolutely no sense. Reasons for him to come are as follows:
1. Babcock
2. Young up and coming organization
3. Matthews, Nylander, Marner
4. Better chance to succeed
5. Hockey mecca of the universe
6. Family is familiar with organization
Tell me what other teams have to offer that is comparable?? No other team will give him as good as an opportunity to succeed in top 6 then Toronto. There is no team with a coach that has turned young prospects into sure things like Toronto has.
Its an easy choice considering the dollars don't come into play on a entry contract. Theres a max.
Tawnos
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This isn't a college thing. Canadian Juniors players would also be UFAs 4 years after being drafted, if they remained unsigned. The difference is that a juniors player would be reentered into the draft after 2 years, and becomes a UFA after 2 more years if unsigned by their second team. So, not only would a player have to refuse to sign with one team, but with a second. And beyond that, there's not much incentive to stay in juniors and even re-enter the draft if you're being offered a contract. In a college player's case, the incentive to not sign is the degree.
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