Rumor: All Encompassing Jimmy Vesey Thread. All Rumors/News goes here. Part VI

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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK

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Not whining. He gets a once in a lifetime opportunity. Organisations show true interest in him... He gets a chance some kids dream their whole lives about but never get to accomplish and yet he's picky about which team he plays for. It's stupid. Take your ELC. Spend your 2 years in the city to see if you like it, THEN make your decision... You can always request a trade of your rights afterwards if it's so bad.

How is it stupid? Would you rather have no choice of team or have a choice between basically any team in the league? I'm pretty sure nearly every player in the league would choose the latter.
 

Blowfish

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This doesn't make any sense.

What makes them best connected to everything Leafs? I don't even know what that means :laugh:


The Leafs have a top 3 prospect pool and it's arguably #1. They have some very good established players, and 3 of the best prospects to (likely) enter the NHL this season in Mitch Marner,

Do you not think Babcock is the best coach in the world? Even with anti-Leafs bias, he is at worst, 2nd.

And our management is one of the best ones in the league, that's undeniable,

So, what are you questioning?

Have any of those things you say are the best fact? And what exactly have this best management team proven that have propelled them to best management team in the league. Please also Look up definition of prospect.
 

Tim Vezina Thomas

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I'm just hoping he doesn't completely bust. I think for the most part people know he isnt supposed to be a "star," but im hoping for his sake he at least performs admirably.

40+ points next year and I'd be happy.
 

clunk

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the definition of whining. :laugh:

I don't care either way. He wasn't ever going to sign with my team. That I don't care about... But he's proven absolutely nothing at the NHL level and should pay more respect to teams that have either A: traded for his rights or B: drafted him.

The real question is: How damn hard is it just to play two years to see if you like a place, especially when you're just going to get max ELC any way you choose? If it was about money, I'd understand.. But Buffalo for example has clear room for him and yet he's still balking and making this a big UFA cluster**** from every team.

Either his agent is a total **** or he likes the attention... Either way, this 'saga' needs to end. Embarrassing.
 

Zajacs Bowl Cut

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I don't care either way. He wasn't ever going to sign with my team. That I don't care about... But he's proven absolutely nothing at the NHL level and should pay more respect to teams that have either A: traded for his rights or B: drafted him.

The real question is: How damn hard is it just to play two years to see if you like a place, especially when you're just going to get max ELC any way you choose? If it was about money, I'd understand.. But Buffalo for example has clear room for him and yet he's still balking and making this a big UFA cluster**** from every team.

Either his agent is a total **** or he likes the attention... Either way, this 'saga' needs to end. Embarrassing.

or, hes doing something that is totally permitted by the CBA? :laugh:

be mad at the CBA, don't be mad at players for taking advantage of it.
 

JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK

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I don't care either way. He wasn't ever going to sign with my team. That I don't care about... But he's proven absolutely nothing at the NHL level and should pay more respect to teams that have either A: traded for his rights or B: drafted him.

The real question is: How damn hard is it just to play two years to see if you like a place, especially when you're just going to get max ELC any way you choose? If it was about money, I'd understand.. But Buffalo for example has clear room for him and yet he's still balking and making this a big UFA cluster**** from every team.

Either his agent is a total **** or he likes the attention... Either way, this 'saga' needs to end. Embarrassing.

Or he's exercising his rights within the current CBA and giving himself a wide array of options rather than just one.

Nah, he must be an attention *****. Gotta be.
 

Shootertooter

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In a perfect world, a player who refused to play for the team that drafted him would be black balled and never have a chance to even have a career in the league.
 

clunk

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or, hes doing something that is totally permitted by the CBA? :laugh:

be mad at the CBA, don't be mad at players for taking advantage of it.

Just because cheating on your partner isn't a crime, doesn't mean that doing it doesn't make you a ****** person. Especially when the person you're cheating on is way out of your league and it's a miracle they even chose you in the first place.
 

JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK

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Just because cheating on your partner isn't a crime, doesn't mean that doing it doesn't make you a ****** person. Especially when the person you're cheating on is way out of your league and it's a miracle they even chose you in the first place.

This doesn't even make any sense. :laugh:
 

Shootertooter

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This would either really suck or be great.

I'd like to see the Rangers grab Vesey to make up for their lack of 1st round picks for the past few drafts. It might also give them some options moving other personnel going forward. Don't overlook the Islanders though. They could likely give him top 6 minutes more readily than the Rangers at this point.....maybe. I think the Rangers are already slotting Buch in the top 6 and unless they move Nash before the season, even that could be tight let alone making a spot for Vesey.
 

PemIceKing

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Have any of those things you say are the best fact? And what exactly have this best management team proven that have propelled them to best management team in the league. Please also Look up definition of prospect.

Sir you are arguing obvious things. Move on. Any person with any hockey knowledge would not be questioning the Teams prospects, coaching staff or new management. You are just looking for someone to argue with IMHO.
 

Mad Brills*

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In a perfect world, a player who refused to play for the team that drafted him would be black balled and never have a chance to even have a career in the league.

Considering pro sports is one of the few professions in life where you don't get to choose where you start your career, I don't think that would fly. Free agency exists simply for the fact that not everyone can pull a Vesey.
 

Nemec

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I think he chooses NJD.
If it had been Boston, would've been over by now.
 

clunk

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This doesn't even make any sense. :laugh:

Let's just put it this way... You wouldn't be defending his actions if there wasn't a chance he'd sign with the Rangers. You probably wouldn't have even responded to this thread.

I say again: Suck it up and play two damn years in the best league in the world. Finding a place in any city for two years as a (about to be) well off, young athlete isn't hard... Go out there, show you belong in the league and if you don't like it, you can always request your rights to be traded on your RFA year.
 

Irishguy42

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Not just because of that. He's basically saying that in his ideal world, you have no choice whatsoever in the circumstances under which you ply your trade.

Pretty much. I think the NHLPA would have a huge outrage over a proposal like that.

Did someone say "work stoppage"...
 

Shootertooter

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The NHLPA wouldn't stand for that. Would be dumb.


In today's day and age of greed it might be considered dumb, but if you come from an era where people made deals just with a handshake and were expected to live up to their word or promises.....not so much.

If you get drafted to a team you didn't want to play for or into a situation where they weren't going to give you exactly what you wanted right away.......T/S........it is called the draft for a reason. A fledgling player should not be given the ability to pick and choose his destiny or where he goes. The Drouin thing was B/S, the Vesey thing is much of the same.

It is not that it is dumb, these kids are spoiled brats who overlook the fact that they are going to get paid lots of money to play a sport they love. The mentality these players have is what is truly dumb.
 

Skinnyjimmy08

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In a perfect world, a player who refused to play for the team that drafted him would be black balled and never have a chance to even have a career in the league.

in a perfect world this opportunity to become a UFA at such a young age for NCAA players wouldn't have been negotiated to be involved in the rules(Im not a huge fan of it, but its in the rules, so good for Vesey to explore it)

Good for Vesey graduating Harvard University and now able to choose his destination and make millions of dollars playing hockey.
 
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