AEW All Elite Wrestling #8: Grabbing the Brass Ring of Honor

[Apex Predator]

Not so absurd now eh?


Imagining them kicking the door down all tough and getting KTFO is hilarious. If that’s true they need to be stripped of all power and perhaps released, they put an injured woman and a helpless dog in jeopardy. EXECUTIVES. Nah just indie clowns that haven’t drawn 1/10th of what Punk has.



Also I’m now 75% sure it’s a work

Ha ha now I look like an idiot for that comment. This is embarsing from the Bucks. They need a reality check. This is so absurd they would they think acting like that is fine.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Another thing. Ace Steel. Ace Steel, whom I've only kind of heard of and have never seen (still couldn't pick him out in a lineup). This Ace Steel guy is suddenly on my tv the last week and has an impassioned speech that gets Punk back in the title match. He's fined for saying the f word. And now this Ace Steel, who nobody other bona fide Punk fans care about, is biting a recently returned Kenny Omega. I love this.

Ive heard of Ace Steel. But he always sucked and was like 3rd fiddle. Punk Cobana and Steel. I forgot he existed.

 

[CDJ]

Ha ha now I look like an idiot for that comment. This is embarsing from the Bucks. They need a reality check. This is so absurd they would they think acting like that is fine.

It’s true, everything leading up to that was cartoonish so they might as well respond in kind lol

I’m very compelled and I’ll definitely be tuning back into AEW regularly. I’ve been more in and out since MJF went on leave

 

[CDJ]

Also Ace Steel apparently was not in the room when it all started- so these 3 EVP’s kick the door down and storm in aggressively on CM Punk and Ace’s injured wife.

Biting and chair throwing fully justified now tbh. Ace Steel for AEW president perhaps? United States president? Who is to say where his limits lie? Not me, I’m not gonna tell him he can’t. He was in that original ROH vs CZW feud, those guys were f***in crazy

 

[canucksfan]

Executives shouldn't be storming another wrestler's locker room.

 

[im gangster]

I kinda feel like Phil likes to project this just one of the guys backstage image while he’s got a private room

I also know he wouldn’t care if anyone mentioned it so fair game

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Punk massively overstepped at that press conference and made Tony look like a complete idiot and you got the fight on top of it. That was the inciting incident otherwise they wouldn't have been any fight.

Doesn't matter. A verbal thrashing is one thing. Not a fireable offense. When things get physical, that's where things start to get dicey from a legal perspective and from the perspective of corporate overlords (Discovery) and sponsors.

If the Bucks did kick the door down go after him in the room, they should be fired if he's fired. That would mean they're the ones that took it too far.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Pretty shitty situation overall obviously. If it wasn't the Elite that leaked the Colt stuff to the dirtsheets (every insider is denying it was the Elite), then there really isn't much to do for Tony but offer Punk an ultimatum to make amends or he's gone. It's a shame because there is money to be made out of a potential Elite vs. Punk/FTR feud, but some people will need to swallow their pride for that to happen, and let's be real here, there is a very small chance Punk will ever make amends with anyone.

If it comes to picking a side, you have to go with the Elite and save the dressing room. Also, Triple H is not messing with WWE's high morale right now by bringing in Punk, who's not very well-liked in that dressing room. You can bet your ass WWE will sign Omega and parade him around if Tony cuts ties with the Elite.

Punk is one of my all-time favourite characters/performers in wrestling but at some point his baggage isn't worth it. Use that money to ensure MJF doesn't walk next year.

 

[yahhockey]

As someone attending tomorrow's event I'm disappointed about the whole situation. Coming off the PPV Kenny and Punk may not have had matches but disappointing neither one will be there. More Kenny than Punk, but still feels like children ruined the party. Two potentially good matches announced plus MJF is set to speak so it's not all bad.

 

[CDJ]

Brian Last said everybody that spoke in the recent talent meeting had nice things to say (Khan, Jericho, Schiavone, even the Bucks) but then Omega got up and made it contentious by saying he wouldn’t have hired 8 out of 10 of them or something like that. Says omegas behavior isn’t being reported on but it’s been an issue.

My first thought is that of course he said that about Omega, they hate the guy. My second thought is that they are on great terms with FTR, who would have been there for the meeting. My third thought- and this is the one that makes me think it could perhaps be real- is that he had positive things to say about the bucks in the same report, and he obviously doesn’t like them either.

I took it with a grain of salt but it’s not the biggest grain of salt. Cody dipped with NDA’s signed for a reason.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Pretty shitty situation overall obviously. If it wasn't the Elite that leaked the Colt stuff to the dirtsheets (every insider is denying it was the Elite), then there really isn't much to do for Tony but offer Punk an ultimatum to make amends or he's gone. It's a shame because there is money to be made out of a potential Elite vs. Punk/FTR feud, but some people will need to swallow their pride for that to happen, and let's be real here, there is a very small chance Punk will ever make amends with anyone.

If it comes to picking a side, you have to go with the Elite and save the dressing room. Also, Triple H is not messing with WWE's high morale right now by bringing in Punk, who's not very well-liked in that dressing room. You can bet your ass WWE will sign Omega and parade him around if Tony cuts ties with the Elite.

Punk is one of my all-time favourite characters/performers in wrestling but at some point his baggage isn't worth it. Use that money to ensure MJF doesn't walk next year.

The issue with siding with the Elite, in my view, is that he seems to have already sided with them with regards to the Cody Rhodes situation. The Bucks seem to be toxic, just sneakier about it and, in my view, they make the product worse creatively with their jokey antics (Omega too, massive talent, but he needs to be reigned in and told No occasionally).

Will this always happen when they get new main-event talents? In order to grow the company, Tony needs to start running the company like an adult an address the children in the room.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

The issue with siding with the Elite, in my view, is that he seems to have already sided with them with regards to the Cody Rhodes situation. The Bucks seem to be toxic, just sneakier about it and, in my view, they make the product worse creatively with their jokey antics (Omega too, massive talent, but he needs to be reigned in and told No occasionally).

Will this always happen when they get new main-event talents? In order to grow the company, Tony needs to start running the company like an adult an address the children in the room.

I think the Cody thing was mostly between him and Kenny. It was reported after Cody left that the Bucks were still cordial with Cody but Cody and Kenny pretty much only spoke about business.

It’s not very clear what the Elite are thought of by other wrestlers since it’s mostly runours, but Punk has has issues in almost every room he’s been in since ROH (some of thise grievences were justified). According Fightful, the heat on Punk right now is almost unanimous.

I’m a fan of every party involved and hope they work something out, but wrestling is an ego-driven business so we’ll see.

 

[CDJ]

Should’ve gotten Bobby Fish paid, things may have gone differently…

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I think the Cody thing was mostly between him and Kenny. It was reported after Cody left that the Bucks were still cordial with Cody but Cody and Kenny pretty much only spoke about business.

It’s not very clear what the Elite are thought of by other wrestlers since it’s mostly runours, but Punk has has issues in almost every room he’s been in since ROH (some of thise grievences were justified). According Fightful, the heat on Punk right now is almost unanimous.

Not sure how much I trust the dirt sheet reports at this point.

All I know is if you're gonna put Punk on TV or the current version of the Bucks and Kenny, I'd prefer to watch Punk. That also seems to be the consensus in terms of gates and viewership. In terms of my own entertainment, I'm getting it more from the Punk side of things than the Elite side of things. Even if he has all the heat on him, he's the number one draw, so they have to account for that.

I also don't think the are Elite blameless in this whole situation. The Bucks have been known to do sketchy things in the past as well, and the Elite started this whole business with the Hangman promo. (That was on TV, not behind the scenes). It's not Punk's fault Page is too uncharismatic to go into business for himself in a way that looks like an atomic explosion occurred (ie: the scrum).

I think the Elite gonna keep slowly sabotaging things unless Tony puts a stop to it, regardless of what happens with Punk. Their behavior will slowly kill the product from the inside out.

 

[Jussi]

Executives shouldn't be superkicking another wrestler's locker room door.

Fixed.

 

[CDJ]

The Elite have already run off 1 of the biggest stars in company history, just have to do Punk and Danielson next and then they’ll finally be happy. They can main event on national television in front of 400k viewers soon!

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I see it is revisionist history time with Cody Rhodes! There is also a lot of projecting on things not even close to confirmed. You don't have any clue whether or not the Bucks ran Cody out of the company and the amount of hindsight being used with Cody like he wasn't being universally shat on for the Codyverse is honestly hilarious as well.

 

[CDJ]

I see it is revisionist history time with Cody Rhodes! There is also a lot of projecting on things not even close to confirmed. You don't have any clue whether or not the Bucks ran Cody out of the company and the amount of hindsight being used with Cody like he wasn't being universally shat on for the Codyverse is honestly hilarious as well.

The bucks didn’t- they’re apparently still cordial- but Omega sure as shit did

We get it, you’re a stan for the elite. You’ll be able to continue to root for them as they run the company into the ground and run off everybody with a bigger following than them

Imagine executives kicking a door down and storming into an employees office to start a fight in any other profession. What do you think happens to them?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

The bucks didn’t- they’re apparently still cordial- but Omega sure as shit did

You again have no idea. Just because Kenny and Cody supposedly weren't best friends doesn't mean Kenny pushed him out of the company, such a massive reach. Also if thats what it comes down to you are keeping Kenny over Cody every single time.

 

[CDJ]

You again have no idea. Just because Kenny and Cody supposedly weren't best friends doesn't mean Kenny pushed him out of the company, such a massive reach. Also if thats what it comes down to you are keeping Kenny over Cody every single time.

Yeah man those NDA’s got signed for no reason, keep telling yourself that

Again, Imagine executives kicking a door down and storming into an employees office to start a fight in any other profession. What do you think happens to them? Also if they’re willing to be so stupid and cartoonish perhaps just maybe that bleeds over into other relationships too

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Yeah man those NDA’s got signed for no reason, keep telling yourself that

Again, Imagine executives kicking a door down and storming into an employees office to start a fight in any other profession. What do you think happens to them?

Are we really acting like NDA's are some weird thing to sign? I mean come on now lol I am not saying what the Elite did in this scenario is right but you are taking 1+1 and jumping to a million with the amount of conclusions you are coming to. I get it though you are a Punk mark.

 

[CDJ]

Are we really acting like NDA's are some weird thing to sign? I mean come on now lol I am not saying what the Elite did in this scenario is right but you are taking 1+1 and jumping to a million with the amount of conclusions you are coming to. I get it though you are a Punk mark.

Not even that big of a cm punk fan, just a big Danhausen guy. Also not a fan of children cosplaying as executives kicking in employees doors to start a fight putting an injured middle aged woman in danger. Seems to be something you’re all about though, more power to you.


Be elite! Be be elite!

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Not even that big of a cm punk fan, just a big Danhausen guy. Also not a fan of children cosplaying as executives kicking in employees doors to start a fight putting an injured middle aged woman in danger. Seems to be something you’re all about though, more power to you.


Be elite! Be be elite!

You seem to be acting like you were in the room. Like I said kicking down the door, if it is true not okay. Throwing punches and chairs and biting people...not okay. Not what I originally replied to you about though either as you were changing history with Cody Rhodes. I really do not care if you hate the Bucks and Omega. More power to you.

 

[CDJ]

You seem to be acting like you were in the room. Like I said kicking down the door, if it is true not okay. Throwing punches and chairs and biting people...not okay. Not what I originally replied to you about though either as you were changing history with Cody Rhodes. I really do not care if you hate the Bucks and Omega. More power to you.

I’m not, they ran him out of town. Unless you think he just voluntarily left the promotion he basically kicked off for a company he had been bashing for years and hated his time at. Cody learned the grass isn’t necessarily always greener when you have to deal with children in suits.

Throwing punches and chairs and biting are absolutely allowed in that scenario when they kick the door down with a numbers advantage and Ace Steel’s injured wife is in the room (and Ace wasn’t). Do you think they were going to have a spot of tea? Shouldn’t have kicked the door down, these assclown “executives” are the ones that started any violence and that should be dealt with accordingly. BARE MINIMUM removal of their titles as executives.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I’m not, they ran him out of town. Unless you think he just voluntarily left the promotion he basically kicked off for a company he had been bashing for years and hated his time at. Cody learned the grass isn’t necessarily always greener when you have to deal with children in suits.

Throwing punches and chairs and biting are absolutely allowed in that scenario when they kick the door down with a numbers advantage and Ace Steel’s injured wife is in the room (and Ace wasn’t). Do you think they were going to have a spot of tea? Shouldn’t have kicked the door down, these assclown “executives” are the ones that started any violence and that should be dealt with accordingly. BARE MINIMUM removal of their titles as executives.

I mean he could have just not been offered the money he wanted or been a fan of his booking. You are jumping to conclusions based off rumors and hearsay. You have absolutely nothing to back up your opinion.