AEW All Elite Wrestling #8: Grabbing the Brass Ring of Honor

[Blitzkrug]

Jericho and Edge have a great story about Punk giving them shit and calling them unprofessional for watching the Gold Medal hockey game before a house show match (a match in which Punk started a tag match and refused to tag in Jericho because of it). Just utter petulance. As they laugh about, a few years later Punk is tweeting the Chicago run to the finals during a PPV.

Yeah Jericho and Edge decided to just call it in the ring if I recall correctly. Both guys had been around well over 20 years at that point and knew how to work obviously

Punk, despite being a pretty seasoned veteran in his own right got his panties in a bunch over it.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Watch only Ace Steel get fired lol

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

Something definitely went down. SRS, Keller (who some claim is the closest insider to Khan) and Meltzer are all hinting at it.

My guess is;

Punk suspended, stripped of the title

Ace Steel shot out of the nearest cannon .

The entirety of the elite sans Adam Page suspended for a month so Tony can send a message that no one is above the law type of shit.

Punk then goes full nuclear and walks from AEW and likely professional wrestling as a whole for the final time.

And give Page his damn belt back

 

[Troublesome 85]

...but you can get behind your avatar: a man who got a raped woman blackballed from UK wrestling promotions because she spoke out.

At any rate, that's a topic for another thread.

I read something different but am changing the wrestler in my av anyways. Matt Cardona is wildy entertaining. Whys he not in AEW

 

[Emperoreddy]

Just throw some more logs on the pile while we wait for actual confirmation of something.

His hunch was believing Punk would never appear in a pro wrestling setting again.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I would also be more sympathetic to this if it wasn't for the fact Punk very publicly blasted them moments for and outright called for anyone who had a problem with him to come say it to his face. Like how did you expect that to go? No shit they flew off the handle.

My hang up in all of this, and why I tend to lean that Punk is the bigger asshole in this sea of assholes is how stupidly sensitive he got over Page's promo.

Like folks have said way way worse to him on a live mic. Kingston, Mox, MJF, you name it.

Also the comment about Page not listening to vets was much ado about nothing too. He got asked if he would get advice from Punk and Sting, and all he said was if he felt he needed to he would but his preference was to learn through trial and error.

Punk didn't like that because how dare someone not want his advice?

I think Page's promo referenced Cabana, and the Bucks were slimily leaking stuff about Punk supposedly trying to get Cabana fired.

I think Punk being the de facto top guy and draw since he came in has rubbed "the clique" the wrong way and they tried to politick him out not unlike what I'm thinking they did with Cody Rhodes.

I don't know if this is a Punk issue. It seems to be a Bucks and even possibly Kenny issue (and Kenny's probably my favorite wrestler so that sucks for me to say).

Since AEW started, Kenny and the Bucks and their lack of taking the business seriously or a lack of Tony filtering their wacky ideas has led to quite a bit of the bad TV I've seen on AEW. You can't have a comedy heel world champion, for example. That spot needs to be regarded with some seriousness.

Unfortunately, things have been run like a day care up until now and Daddy needs to come home. And maybe bring some adults in to help out on the creative side and Talent Relations side.

 

[hockey20000]

If, and it's a big if, Punk walks or is fired I have to imagine that's the last we see of him in wrestling.

i wouldnt mind that tbh... i was excited when he came back but i am sick of him already he always causes drama iw as hoping he grew up in his 7 years away but nope

 

[Emperoreddy]

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I think Page's promo referenced Cabana, and the Bucks were slimily leaking stuff about Punk supposedly trying to get Cabana fired.

I think Punk being the de facto top guy and draw since he came in has rubbed "the clique" the wrong way and they tried to politick him out not unlike what I'm thinking they did with Cody Rhodes.

I don't know if this is a Punk issue. It seems to be a Bucks and even possibly Kenny issue (and Kenny's probably my favorite wrestler so that sucks for me to say).

Since AEW started, Kenny and the Bucks and their lack of taking the business seriously or a lack of Tony filtering their wacky ideas has led to quite a bit of the bad TV I've seen on AEW. You can't have a comedy heel world champion, for example. That spot needs to be regarded with some seriousness.

Unfortunately, things have been run like a day care up until now and Daddy needs to come home. And maybe bring some adults in to help out on the creative side and Talent Relations side.

I mean MJF made a reference to Cabana far more on the nose then Page ever did. His gripe with Hangman is that he didn't bow to him in reverence and his almighty wisdom. Also that he went into business for himself which you know just makes him a massive f***ing hypocrite based off what he did last night as like I said earlier if Punk wasn't a whiny little bitch the Hangman promo would literally have been forgotten. Punk's press conference was detrimental to the entire damn company.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I mean MJF made a reference to Cabana far more on the nose then Page ever did. His gripe with Hangman is that he didn't bow to him in reverence and his almighty wisdom. Also that he went into business for himself which you know just makes him a massive f***ing hypocrite based off what he did last night as like I said earlier if Punk wasn't a whiny little bitch the Hangman promo would literally have been forgotten. Punk's press conference was detrimental to the entire damn company.

Was it? Everyone seems to be talking about the company lol. I have to say it was amazingly entertaining. Page does not have the verbal acumen to go into business for himself in a way that really hurts, but Punk is one of the best speakers ever. He went scorched EARTH.

But, if everyone untangles their wadded up panties, there's quite the opportunity to make some money off this. I'd be down for a Punk/FTR vs Omega/Bucks bloodfeud

 

[Troublesome 85]

Watching All Out now. Hilarious Rush taking forever to walk down the ramp. Yuta could have got the chip. Trios match awesome. Now for Jade and Athena. Wish it wasnt a squash.

 

[CDJ]

Watch only Ace Steel get fired lol

Most likely outcome tbh

 

[Emperoreddy]

Watching All Out now. Hilarious Rush taking forever to walk down the ramp. Yuta could have got the chip. Trios match awesome. Now for Jade and Athena. Wish it wasnt a squash.

That bugged me so much. He stopped to undress while Yuta was on top of the ladder.

 

[Blitzkrug]

 

[Apex Predator]

I don’t think Tony has it in him to fire CM Punk. Would be crazy if he does though!

 

[Emperoreddy]

I don’t think Tony has it in him to fire CM Punk. Would be crazy if he does though!

There were a few rumors that Discovery was not happy about all of this so pressure from up high could force his hands.

But yeah I am not sure he has the stones to fire him.

I could see Punk quitting though. Not like it would be the first time

 

[Apex Predator]

There were a few rumors that Discovery was not happy about all of this so pressure from up high could force his hands.

But yeah I am not sure he has the stones to fire him.

I could see Punk quitting though. Not like it would be the first time

Didn’t MJF cut a promo on Punk saying he would quit by February?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I think he gets the title stripped from him and a long ass suspension...and he doesn't accept it and bails. So you might as well just fire the guy.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply if someone actually comes after you

 

[GKJ]

Jericho and Edge have a great story about Punk giving them shit and calling them unprofessional for watching the Gold Medal hockey game before a house show match (a match in which Punk started a tag match and refused to tag in Jericho because of it). Just utter petulance. As they laugh about, a few years later Punk is tweeting the Chicago run to the finals during a PPV.

That’s when he told the story. Jericho felt Punk got to the same level he was at in focusing his energy.

 

[GKJ]

As far as I’m concerned the second they walked into that room pissed off with a numbers advantage they became liable to being punched. That in itself is threatening.

Danhausen has a pure soul and gave CM Punk his boots. I am team punk.

Only Punk knows if he was in imminent danger in that scenario. In the old days of wrestling, the answer would definitely be yes.

Someone also said Ace Steel’s wife was in the room watching Punk’s dog and she has an broken foot and couldn’t get out so that’s why he went apeshit

 

[GKJ]

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I think suspensions for all is probably how to handle it from a business/optics perspective. Particularly with Zaslav breathing down their necks.

From a wrestling perspective, though, put 'em in a feud Wednesday and pop a 1.2 million rating.

 

[Emperoreddy]

This is why nothing about this is a positive.

You can't successfully do business when things have escalated this badly. If Tony nipped this in the bud weeks ago it would be a different story, but it got out of control

I think you got to suspend The Elite and if possible remove their EVP titles. Steel and Punk should be fired.

Has to be a firm statement this shit won't be tolerated.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

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