Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part VI

[Greek_physique]

Who knows. It's a sizable return and would address two areas of concern for the Av's. I'd imagine stabilizing the goaltending would a long way in helping that team.

Is MAF that much of an upgrade to Varlamov?

Especially at the expense of one of there top 2 forwards...IMO, I'd rather get something that addresses my other areas first....

 

[22Brad Park]

Great read.

For me, I'd part with my 1st this year, a roster forward from the bottom 6 as well as a prospect NOT named McAvoy for Landeskog. That could be something pricey like Spooner, 1st and Senyshyn but by the sounds of it, JFK and Debrusk are ready next year to make that leap to third line duties.

Steep price.They do that he better perform is all I can say.lol

 

[PlayMakers]

I was surprised that Coach Cassidy had Spooner on the penalty kill against Vancouver.

I was too. I wonder if that will be a regular thing or if he was just trying to find him some ice time.

Eklund had this yesterday:

On Halak...

I am hearing the Bruins have serious interest and have been trying to get Halak for sometime, but until now the Islanders have hesitated on moving him in Conference...With Boston's backup goalie issues this makes sense...for sure..

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=82862&blogger_id=1

Halak would be perfect. Although it's a trough trade to make, considering we're competing with the Isles for the same playoff spot, and the deal could easily push one or the other over the top.

I also wonder if the Bruins might be pushing for the Isles to retain salary. Halak cleared waivers so nobody was willing to take him on at full price...

I'm eager to see how Cehlarik does on the Krejci line against Montreal. He had a good start in his first game and hope he can build on that. If it goes well they have a whole week to practice together before the next game.

It's critical to get a good LW for Krejci and I've been eager to see a trade for Landeskog. If Cehlarik can fill the role the Bruins are that much closer to building the team through drafting and developing.

Agreed.

 

[Number8]

Is there?

You make it sound like all Sweeney or another team would have to do is wave a 3rd or 4th round pick in the air and another team will deliver them a young right-shot D-man who is capable of playing regular minutes in the NHL.

As far as Vegas goes, look they will choose 30 players, but the fact is they only need 20 to ice a team, 22-23 for a full roster. They'll be in on UFA on July 1st. The likelyhood for many (not all) selections will be based on the players relative value across the league. They will make deals to move guys they picked, as well as deals with teams to not select certain players.

If you look at who may be potentially non-protected by Boston, of those guys on the bubble, I think Colin Miller has unquestionably the most value, given his age, contract size and length, performance, and potential.

Certainly losing Colin Miller for nothing is not exactly roster crippling. But let's not just shrug and act like it's no big deal or that the Bruins can easily replace him by waiving a mid-range draft pick around hoping another team bites.

Couldn't agree more. Losing C Miller wouldn't set organization back years, but bottom line is our defense is weakest part of roster. Losing anyone viewed as a potential piece of future without something to show is more costly to us than other teams.

Imagine Nashville when they had Weber and Jones losing a C Miller. Quite a difference from us!

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Sportsnet tells us why the Bruins should hold onto Carlo.


from sportsnet.ca:

The Boston Bruins have already made one big move with an eye to saving their season, that being the decision to axe coach Claude Julien earlier this week.

If the B’s drop another bomb – say a sizable trade deadline acquisition aimed at improving the team’s playoff hopes – you can bet Black and Gold fans will be ready to wince upon hearing the details, hoping the name Brandon Carlo comes nowhere near the transaction.

“By my eye, he is their best defenceman drafted, brought in and put into place since [Ray] Bourque,†said Boston Globe columnist Kevin Paul Dupont on Sportsnet’s Tape to Tape podcast.

While Dupont clarified that he was in no way putting the rookie in the same class as the Bruins Hall of Famer, he believes Carlo has top-pair rock written all over him. That, of course, is precisely why the 20-year-old’s name is always rumoured to be part of the asking price when it comes to established, talented players who could soon be on the move – like, say, Gabriel Landeskog of the Colorado Avalanche.

If including Carlo in any potential move is a non-starter for Bourque’s old defence partner and Boston’s current GM, Don Sweeney, you can understand why. Regardless, among the many things Carlo has already picked up as an NHL freshman is how to tune out the noise.

“I’ve just got to control what I can control,†said the 37th overall pick from the 2015 draft. “The trade rumours, I haven’t really focused on. I’m just trying to relish the opportunity to play in the NHL.â€


Full story here: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bruins-careful-trading-brandon-carlo/

I love Carlo and in general I agree with Dupont here.

But he is not the best D-man the Bruins have drafted since Bourque, although hopefully he will have the best career.

Kluzak was just flat better, and would have been a Hall of Famer were it not for the sadness of his knees

 

[PB37]

With the way Cehlarik performed in his first NHL game tonight, I'd push pause on the Landeskog deal...

Marchand - Bergeron - Backes
Cehlarik - Krejci - Pastrnak
Spooner - ???? - Vatrano
Schaller - Moore - Nash

I still think they need a 3rd line C. Brian Boyle wouldn't be a bad experiment. He's on pace for around 20 goals and 40 points. They're loco if they think they're getting a 1st for him... Regardless, we've got Beleskey, Morrow, Hayes and Liles to see if there's a team out there that's deep at C and interested in swapping 3rd line talents (i.e. no futures involved).

Despite Dobby's better than normal performance tonight, I'd also like to see them get a legit backup here who could play the majority of the games down the stretch if Rask continues to struggle (with his injury).

Cehlarik should not prevent a Landeskog trade. Cehlarik's natural position is RW, even though he's left handed. He played RW down in Providence and while he was overseas.

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Pasta

Landeskog -- Krejci -- Cehlarik

Vatrano -- Spooner -- Backes

Schaller -- Moore -- Nash

 

[Greek_physique]

Halak would be perfect. Although it's a trough trade to make, considering we're competing with the Isles for the same playoff spot, and the deal could easily push one or the other over the top.

I also wonder if the Bruins might be pushing for the Isles to retain salary. Halak cleared waivers so nobody was willing to take him on at full price...

Agreed.

Depending on which Khudobin we actually get, I'd still pass on Halak. Is he an upgrade? Yes....but even at 50% next year he still comes in @ $2.25. I'd rather spend the money elsewhere considering how much dead weight our current roster has.

Obviously we'd probably trade salary back....but I hesitant to do that for someone like him.

 

[Coach Parker]

Has one more year



If something happens this week its because they have had lots of discussion already, have been scouting other teams that are said to be selling, and have in turn been scouted by those teams heavily as well as some others that are contenders and looking to add.

anything that happens from now until trade deadline is basically a trade deadline day deal. the biggest trades always happen leading up to trade deadline.

Totally agree Dom that a deadline deal makes it a non-issue BUT if in the next days during the break the Bruins pull the trigger on the move I will believe what I heard last Monday and feel like the trade had been discussed for months (scouting also heavily done) and COULD have been done before the firing but they chose to do it after Julien was let go.

'We've been working on this for awhile,' etc. type of talk will confirm for me that this deal was done after Julien was fired because 1) like everyone said, Julien wasn't their guy going forward 2) they knew the addition would boost the team and they would have missed their window to let Julien go this season.

To be clear, a deadline deal weeks from now dismisses this point entirely.

 

[Coach Parker]

Cehlarik should not prevent a Landeskog trade. Cehlarik's natural position is RW, even though he's left handed. He played RW down in Providence and while he was overseas.

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Pasta

Landeskog -- Krejci -- Cehlarik

Vatrano -- Spooner -- Backes

Schaller -- Moore -- Nash

Or if Spooner was moved in the deal:

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Landeskog - Krejci - Cehlarik
Vatrano - Backes - Hayes
Schaller - Moore - Nash

 

[Number8]

I love Carlo and in general I agree with Dupont here.

But he is not the best D-man the Bruins have drafted since Bourque, although hopefully he will have the best career.

Kluzak was just flat better, and would have been a Hall of Famer were it not for the sadness of his knees

Gord Kluzak (whole package), Thelven, (solid Dman) and Jonathan Girard ( oh, what could have been). Boy we took it on the chin with those three.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Gord Kluzak (whole package), Thelven, (solid Dman) and Jonathan Girard ( oh, what could have been). Boy we took it on the chin with those three.

Great post.

 

[DominicT]

Totally agree Dom that a deadline deal makes it a non-issue BUT if in the next days during the break the Bruins pull the trigger on the move I will believe what I heard last Monday and feel like the trade had been discussed for months (scouting also heavily done) and COULD have been done before the firing but they chose to do it after Julien was let go.

'We've been working on this for awhile,' etc. type of talk will confirm for me that this deal was done after Julien was fired because 1) like everyone said, Julien wasn't their guy going forward 2) they knew the addition would boost the team and they would have missed their window to let Julien go this season.

To be clear, a deadline deal weeks from now dismisses this point entirely.

You can choose to believe that, it's your right.

I won't, because I know they have talked to two teams and couldn't agree on the package. They negotiate and if it happens next week it's not because of Julien, it's because that's how negotiations work.

and if there are two teams, there are bound to be many more.

#MyTwoCents

 

[Number8]

Great post.

I know you remember Girard's courageous effort to come back. Gutsy kid. So sad.

Not as badsad as Leveille of course...... but sad days for Bruins none the less.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I know you remember Girard's courageous effort to come back. Gutsy kid. So sad.

Not as badsad as Leveille of course...... but sad days for Bruins none the less.

Tough as nails. Would have been a good one

 

[don]

I don't think I have ever said "and stuff", but feel free to list all of my instant classics. I would love to see a list together in one spot.

You say you don't hate Krug, but literally every time a rumor comes up with another D-man available being available for a trade, you are shipping Krug out, even if the D in question is not as good as Krug or plays the other side (Faulk).

Since you seem to take a big interest in my posts, you should start reading them. Like when I said not to trade for a RD until we get a true #1 LD. With Chara's declining play that is the first area we should, IMO, fix. That will make Krug to expensive because Chara would take over the 2nd pair LD spot pushing Krug to the 3rd pairing. Also, Krug, being a decent D-man, would help get the forward help we need. Also, we have a bunch of LD prospects, more than one of which projects to be better than Krug.

So for all you have is the assumption that I hate Kurg, At least that's the only "fact" you've stated. Take off the Rose Colored Krug glasses and look at the whole team needs.

 

[bruinmann77]

It be curious what the Bruins decide to do in the next few weeks

 

[Alan Ryan]

No practices during the bye week. First practice is Saturday 2/18 in San Jose.

Thanks—I missed that.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

I love Carlo and in general I agree with Dupont here.

But he is not the best D-man the Bruins have drafted since Bourque, although hopefully he will have the best career.

Kluzak was just flat better, and would have been a Hall of Famer were it not for the sadness of his knees

I can remember as a kid listening to a Bruin - Habs game and the Great Dick Irvin raving about Kluzak. Saying the Bruins don't only have one of the top defenseman in the NHL they now have two!

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Since you seem to take a big interest in my posts, you should start reading them. Like when I said not to trade for a RD until we get a true #1 LD. With Chara's declining play that is the first area we should, IMO, fix. That will make Krug to expensive because Chara would take over the 2nd pair LD spot pushing Krug to the 3rd pairing. Also, Krug, being a decent D-man, would help get the forward help we need. Also, we have a bunch of LD prospects, more than one of which projects to be better than Krug.

So for all you have is the assumption that I hate Kurg, At least that's the only "fact" you've stated. Take off the Rose Colored Krug glasses and look at the whole team needs.

I don't think the Bruins can afford to move the Krug/Carlo types until they know the prospects will actually replace them.

Certainly not for just Landeskog.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

 

[Alan Ryan]

Or if Spooner was moved in the deal:

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Landeskog - Krejci - Cehlarik
Vatrano - Backes - Hayes
Schaller - Moore - Nash

This is my preference and I like that group. The Bruins would be better with four strong centers, especially for the playoffs.

 

[Mione134]

Hearing Jonathan Girards name again makes me smile and sad. Oh what could of been.

 

[Greek_physique]

Maybe they are scouting Cehlarik?

 

[sarge88]

Sportsnet tells us why the Bruins should hold onto Carlo.


from sportsnet.ca:

The Boston Bruins have already made one big move with an eye to saving their season, that being the decision to axe coach Claude Julien earlier this week.

If the B’s drop another bomb – say a sizable trade deadline acquisition aimed at improving the team’s playoff hopes – you can bet Black and Gold fans will be ready to wince upon hearing the details, hoping the name Brandon Carlo comes nowhere near the transaction.

“By my eye, he is their best defenceman drafted, brought in and put into place since [Ray] Bourque,†said Boston Globe columnist Kevin Paul Dupont on Sportsnet’s Tape to Tape podcast.

While Dupont clarified that he was in no way putting the rookie in the same class as the Bruins Hall of Famer, he believes Carlo has top-pair rock written all over him. That, of course, is precisely why the 20-year-old’s name is always rumoured to be part of the asking price when it comes to established, talented players who could soon be on the move – like, say, Gabriel Landeskog of the Colorado Avalanche.

If including Carlo in any potential move is a non-starter for Bourque’s old defence partner and Boston’s current GM, Don Sweeney, you can understand why. Regardless, among the many things Carlo has already picked up as an NHL freshman is how to tune out the noise.

“I’ve just got to control what I can control,†said the 37th overall pick from the 2015 draft. “The trade rumours, I haven’t really focused on. I’m just trying to relish the opportunity to play in the NHL.â€


Full story here: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bruins-careful-trading-brandon-carlo/

I like Carlo, a lot, but I just don't think he has the offensive ability to be a top pair "rock" on a contender.

3/4 Absolutely, but not a 1/2, IMO.

That being said, I don't want him moved unless in a deal that is an absolute, clear win for the B's.

The kind of deal where even fans of teams that hate the B's get jealous.

 

[neelynugs]

Maybe they are scouting Cehlarik?

maybe chiller