Speculation: All Bruins trade proposals/rumors VIII: Over the Holiday Freeze

[Rubber Biscuit]

As an add in for Hall , or Yandle

Yandle?

Talk about a guy who sucks ass in his own zone...

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

The same people complaining about Hamilton are the same ones that ran Seguin out of town for being a "floater" and "immature." Dougie is 21. Relax. The problem with this team is the system, which won't change anytime soon. I'd kill to trade Lucic (who every thinks is Neely, which is a joke) and Krug (who I like) for Hall, but I'm a realist and that won't happen. I would consider Hamilton, Bergeron and Rask untouchable. Trade anyone else. The real problem, as many regular posters have said, is the system. Hall would score 15-20 goals here and everyone would cmplain that he isn't "heavy" and doesn't "play with jam," which is ridiculous. they don't have the personnel to run Clodes system anymore due cap reasons, it's time value skill guys now.

Your barking up the wrong tree about TS with me Dougie is not an all world talent TS is.

 

[Montecristo]

As an add in for Hall , or Yandle

Hmm I guess I'd have to know what he's being added too. But a deal centered around hamilton for hall i would be good with. Hamilton added to krecji for hall, i would not be

 

[pfw19]

Your barking up the wrong tree about TS with me Dougie is not an all world talent TS is.

That is fair. TS is way better than Dougie, I just feel it is too early to quit on him.

 

[pfw19]

Your barking up the wrong tree about TS with me Dougie is not an all world talent TS is.

Also, it was more of a general rant, not a direct shot at you individually, even though it admittedly looked that way. We just can't give up on dudes too early anymore.

 

[PlayoffBeard365]

The same people complaining about Hamilton are the same ones that ran Seguin out of town for being a "floater" and "immature." Dougie is 21. Relax. The problem with this team is the system, which won't change anytime soon. I'd kill to trade Lucic (who everyone thinks is Neely, which is a joke) and Krug (who I like) for Hall, but I'm a realist and that won't happen. I would consider Hamilton, Bergeron and Rask untouchable. Trade anyone else. The real problem, as many regular posters have said, is the system. Hall would score 15-20 goals here and everyone would cmplain that he isn't "heavy" and doesn't "play with jam," which is ridiculous. they don't have the personnel to run Clodes system anymore due cap reasons, it's time value skill guys now.

Well, that's about it in a nutshell. #Notsarcastic.

 

[What The Puck]

trade 1/2 the team..they don't give a **** anymore

Some of them don't, I'm sure. Really, no one cares as much as the fans do. That's just the way it is. I was a fan through the dark years, and we know that after Ray Bourque left, there was a lot of struggle. The Bruins won the cup at the end of the Physical Era, but now we are moving into the Speed Era. This team cannot compete with the current NHL rules. So we are going to have to rebuild, and it's going to be painful. The true fans will be here, as always, and we will come out on the other side eventually. I firmly believe that with a proper player development staff this is not going to be another Edmonton scenario.

I would just take the games for what they are, diversions and an evening's entertainment, and temper your expectations for some time. Maybe a couple years or more. Hope for a coaching change. And enjoy the Patriots.

 

[Mione134]

We could get Crosby and it still wouldn't fix this team.

Between the FO, Chia and Clode. There seems to be ripple between all three. They can't get on the same page. Between drafting, to prospects in Prov, to up here. You can tell. Its all combined to what we see now. Its been brewing for awhile.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

As an add in for Hall , or Yandle

Quite a wide range you left there.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

With every loss like this, the prices of trade targets get higher and higher.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Hmm I guess I'd have to know what he's being added too. But a deal centered around hamilton for hall i would be good with. Hamilton added to krecji for hall, i would not be

I would do Lou and Hamilton and the bruins first for Hall and another middle of the road D prospect

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

genuinely serious question here: Does anyone think there's a realistic trade to be made that will help this team more than getting a coach and GM with a different approach to drafting, development, and personnel management?

 

[Absurdity]

We could get Crosby and it still wouldn't fix this team.

Between the FO, Chia and Clode. There seems to be ripple between all three. They can't get on the same page. Between drafting, to prospects in Prov, to up here. You can tell. Its all combined to what we see now. Its been brewing for awhile.

100% agree with this. If there was a perfect time for a GM/coach change now is the time.

 

[pfw19]

We could get Crosby and it still wouldn't fix this team.

Between the FO, Chia and Clode. There seems to be ripple between all three. They can't get on the same page. Between drafting, to prospects in Prov, to up here. You can tell. Its all combined to what we see now. Its been brewing for awhile.

I agree 100%

 

[Kate08]

genuinely serious question here: Does anyone think there's a realistic trade to be made that will help this team more than getting a coach and GM with a different approach to drafting, development, and personnel management?

No

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[pfw19]

genuinely serious question here: Does anyone think there's a realistic trade to be made that will help this team more than getting a coach and GM with a different approach to drafting, development, and personnel management?

Sadly, no. I do want Hall if he is available. Or Eberle possibly too. But you are right, they'd have to be allowed to play, and we need a new coach for that.

 

[ChargersRookie]

We could get Crosby and it still wouldn't fix this team.

Between the FO, Chia and Clode. There seems to be ripple between all three. They can't get on the same page. Between drafting, to prospects in Prov, to up here. You can tell. Its all combined to what we see now. Its been brewing for awhile.

They are all waiting for some big heist. See Hail Mary/Miracle.

I agree.

 

[BRUINS since 1995]

We could get Crosby and it still wouldn't fix this team.

Between the FO, Chia and Clode. There seems to be ripple between all three. They can't get on the same page. Between drafting, to prospects in Prov, to up here. You can tell. Its all combined to what we see now. Its been brewing for awhile.

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Interesting point. Difficult to see from away.

 

[What The Puck]

100% agree with this. If there was a perfect time for a GM/coach change now is the time.

Given the coaching extension during an off year (Three years, wasn't it?), and given the changes in the NHL style of play, was and is stupid. Almost as stupid as giving Savard that huge long-term contract after the concussion problems.

I fear we are stuck with this boring system for some time. It comes from the top.

 

[Strange Universe]

genuinely serious question here: Does anyone think there's a realistic trade to be made that will help this team more than getting a coach and GM with a different approach to drafting, development, and personnel management?

I had mentioned this a little over a month ago but perhaps it was still too early to tell at that particular time.
My gut feeling is that management are not all at the same wave length and in turn we are seeing the trickle effect on the ice.
Too many rumors and trades possibilities which do not help the team chemistry or spirit.

Something will have to happen via trade or I think the hammer will come down eventually on management.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Some of them don't, I'm sure. Really, no one cares as much as the fans do. That's just the way it is. I was a fan through the dark years, and we know that after Ray Bourque left, there was a lot of struggle. The Bruins won the cup at the end of the Physical Era, but now we are moving into the Speed Era. This team cannot compete with the current NHL rules. So we are going to have to rebuild, and it's going to be painful. The true fans will be here, as always, and we will come out on the other side eventually. I firmly believe that with a proper player development staff this is not going to be another Edmonton scenario.

I would just take the games for what they are, diversions and an evening's entertainment, and temper your expectations for some time. Maybe a couple years or more. Hope for a coaching change. And enjoy the Patriots.

It is impossible for me to think that way.If this team scrapes into the playoffs on the last game of the regular season,I am still thinking Stanley Cup.

 

[Gordoff]

No one is going to give up anything for Chara. He's going on 39 and looks to be getting worse with each passing game.

NOT true, a team needing a huge leader and a pretty damn decent # 2/3 defenseman for aa few runs at the cup would grab him.

A little time riding the bus in Providence might do him some good

They can't send him (Hamilton) down to Providence, he wouldn't clear waivers.

The same people complaining about Hamilton are the same ones that ran Seguin out of town for being a "floater" and "immature." Dougie is 21. Relax. The problem with this team is the system, which won't change anytime soon. I'd kill to trade Lucic (who everyone thinks is Neely, which is a joke) and Krug (who I like) for Hall, but I'm a realist and that won't happen. I would consider Hamilton, Bergeron and Rask untouchable. Trade anyone else. The real problem, as many regular posters have said, is the system. Hall would score 15-20 goals here and everyone would cmplain that he isn't "heavy" and doesn't "play with jam," which is ridiculous. they don't have the personnel to run Clodes system anymore due cap reasons, it's time value skill guys now.

WHO? The people in the front office? You do realize that whatever is said here makes no difference to Chiarelli and the B's front office don't you.

 

[Montecristo]

NOT true, a team needing a huge leader and a pretty damn decent # 2/3 defenseman for aa few runs at the cup would grab him.

Not at his cap hit and the term left. I mean they'd take him but they wouldn't give what we would want. His value is highest on the team not in a trade. Most contenders can't afford him and the teams that can have no use for him. Hossa and I don't know..a pick a 1st maybe for chara. A deal like that maybe

 

[Gordoff]

Not at his cap hit and the term left. I mean they'd take him but they wouldn't give what we would want. His value is highest on the team not in a trade. Most contenders can't afford him and the teams that can have no use for him. Hossa and I don't know..a pick a 1st maybe for chara. A deal like that maybe

Okay that isn't nothing that's not too bad along with the cap relief and some shrewd free agent signings a rebuild could start. This is now a city that players like coming to no matter the situation today.

 

[Montecristo]

Okay that isn't nothing that's not too bad along with the cap relief and some shrewd free agent signings a rebuild could start. This is now a city that players like coming to no matter the situation today.

Its like 1.4 million in relief. And hossas contract is horrible. That first would be in the late 20s. Its hardly a good return