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we're not an elite team by any stretch. however, we're still a dangerous team.
check out the rosters on carolina and edmonton 2005-06. i don't seen any real elite names on either roster. but those were dangerous teams. and look how far they went.
Not sure why we are "looking at" a team that lost the Stanley Cup final. Let's look at the Blackhawks, Penguins, Kings, Lightning or Avalanche instead and try to be them.
And no it's not "impossible," to reach that level. I just named 5 teams of the past 20 years. Clearly reaching that level is not some historical unreachable fluke.
The problem is that this team has been constructed like the 90s Buffalo Sabres teams for the better part of a generation. The game plan was always decent defense and a Hasek.
Sure, 90s Buffalo had stars pass through - like LaFontaine, Mogilny, Dale Hawerchuk - but they also regularly leaned on guys like Derek Plante, Miro Satan, and Donald Audette to be first line players. And they didn't win s***.
They had '99, we had '14. But hey they were generally competitive all season and Hasek stole games, so "anything can happen" in the playoffs.
We've had the same results trying to ride Lundqvist and now Shesterkin while playing middle 6 forwards in the top line to complement the limited stars we do have, and generally a capable defense as well with 1 or 2 question marks.
The problem is that this just isn't how championship teams are built. Add to that, that we rarely get key contributions from young players because this organization is so mired in the mindset of they have to prove themselves, that we almost never get a fresh impact rookie late in the season who's a key contributor down the stretch. The one guy who was that (Kreider) literally couldn't even stay in the lineup the following season because we had an asshat of a coach who was holding him back while running the team's best scorer out of town.
Generally, two elite forwards, 1-2 very good forwards after that, one elite D, a good goalie, and depth scoring that includes young players who are not injury prone - has been the barometer by which Cup teams can be identified.
I really think we're deluding ourselves if we look at how Colorado was constructed last year, or how Boston is constructed this year, and think our team is even in the same stratosphere.
IMO our best team was in 2015, but we were blatantly outcoached. Didn't help that Nash and MSL were terrible that playoffs, and Yandle was completely misused while the triplets basically teabagged Staal/Girardi for multiple games with no response from the coaching staff. And we still lost in 7.
Last year was a nice run, and good to get the kids playoff experience, but that doesn't happen without key injuries to other teams. You can benefit from it, but you can't count on/build around it, and you can't expect that kind of luck to last 4 rounds.
Yes. This.
The Athletic has generated a general template of what you need and we fall short.
I will give credit to @duhmetreE because one of the things we are lacking, which Trouba was supposed to be and isn't, is another #1D. And Chychrun would really help fill that. I'm just not willing to pay four elite pieces.... because we are also short other things at forward and I need those pieces.