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Player Discussion Alexandre Carrier
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dackelljuneaubulis02
Registered User
I don’t know if he can keep this up but man what a revelation. Doesn’t seem offensively inept either.
morhilane
Registered User
6-2
HuGort
Registered User
Yup, I just looked it up. Big turning point. This is different team after Laine return and Carrier trade, then Dobes heroics.
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
Habs knew what they were doing by adding him. A steady RD and does all the little things well which we desperately needed. Letting go Kova this past summer showed.
EXPOS123
Registered User
Meh...he’s ok. People are gushing over him because what we had before him was not NHL caliber yet ( or possibly ever). Any decent vet would have improved that situation
Reminds me of all the hype and excitement people had over Mike Weaver and josh Georges until the clock struck midnight.
I said it at the time and I’ll still maintain we just should have went after Broberg but whatever, at the end of the day he is helping to stabilize a D corp that was massively overrated by the public so I won’t complain
Reminds me of all the hype and excitement people had over Mike Weaver and josh Georges until the clock struck midnight.
I said it at the time and I’ll still maintain we just should have went after Broberg but whatever, at the end of the day he is helping to stabilize a D corp that was massively overrated by the public so I won’t complain
Kennerback
Registered User
We had 5 NHL Ds, we needed 6. Now we have 6. Beat writer for the Preds confirming what we already knew:
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
Registered User
32 thoughts. Friedman had someone say to him that a lot of teams will regret not making the deal the Habs did to get Carrier.
The person said his own team is probably going to be one of those teams.
The person said his own team is probably going to be one of those teams.
Licou
Registered User
I see a lot of people mentioning Kovacevic here, but I just want to rant a little bit about him.
Kova was pretty toolsy, being a fast skating big guy. But unfortunately, he wasn't very good positionally and with the puck. Furthermore, he wasn't really physical for his size.
If you take a guy like Carrier and put him in Kova's body, he would be a top 5 - top 3 defensive dman in the league for 15 straight seasons. Carrier is extremely talented and driven as a defenseman. Of course his offense is nothing to write home about, but he has a solid first pass and he always starts skating as soon as the puck is on his stick.
Anyway... I have nothing against Kovacevic, but getting rid of him made sense. He wasn't very good.
Kova was pretty toolsy, being a fast skating big guy. But unfortunately, he wasn't very good positionally and with the puck. Furthermore, he wasn't really physical for his size.
If you take a guy like Carrier and put him in Kova's body, he would be a top 5 - top 3 defensive dman in the league for 15 straight seasons. Carrier is extremely talented and driven as a defenseman. Of course his offense is nothing to write home about, but he has a solid first pass and he always starts skating as soon as the puck is on his stick.
Anyway... I have nothing against Kovacevic, but getting rid of him made sense. He wasn't very good.
Tyson
Registered User
No less than 10 players on the Devils are minus players while Kovasevic leads the team with a +16.
To say he wasn't very good is inaccurate imo. He was the perfect #7 D but in NJ he plays 20 minutes a night.
Licou
Registered User
Ok that's pretty impressive not going to lie.
All though he was/is still young, he seemed like a good #7 D in Montreal like you said, but nothing more.
LaP
Registered User
Carrier is a good player. Called it day one it was a good trade and that i liked him. Worse case scenario is Carrier helps us for two years and we flip him for a pick at the TDL if kids develop to be better.
I supported Barron because i think we should wait a kid to be 23 before painting him in a role but Barron was 23 now and he's very close to be wysiwyg and he was simply not good enough. Maybe he'll fetch a career like Hainsey but at least we got a return for him unlike Hainsey.
Still think it's important to try the kids before taking a decision which we did with Barron.
I supported Barron because i think we should wait a kid to be 23 before painting him in a role but Barron was 23 now and he's very close to be wysiwyg and he was simply not good enough. Maybe he'll fetch a career like Hainsey but at least we got a return for him unlike Hainsey.
Still think it's important to try the kids before taking a decision which we did with Barron.
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Guy Larose
Registered User
Why would you lie?
Licou
Registered User
You got me there Guy :]
Kennerback
Registered User
Yeah, given the context the person that said it is likely a GM or an executive that says his own team regrets it and there are other teams in the NHL kicking themselves they didn’t do the Carrier deal with Nashville.
Victoire HuGo
Formerly le Barron de HF
Interesting stuff from Marc Denis on On Jase. Matheson before the Carrier trade was facing 2nd toughest matchups in the league. Now it's in the 150 range. No wonder he looked like dogshit
Licou
Registered User
That's a great find.
I am not surprised that Matheson can contribute very positively in the right context.
People are so quick to shit on players without giving any thought on their capabilities and limitations. It's not a Petry or a Matheson's fault if they are placed in a role they cannot fulfill because of a paper thin rebuilding team lineup. What do you want them to do, refuse acting as an interim 1st defenseman? Do people think that these guys don't know when they make mistakes?
Sorry for the rant
