Confirmed with Link: Alexander Romanov & Pick #98 Traded to NY Islanders for Pick #13 & Flip It + Pick #66 to Chicago for Kirby Dach
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I wonder what management thinks of Xhekaj and if it had anything to do with being ok trading Romanov, plus you have Guhle and if he can get his shit together, Struble, as 3 nasty to play against LD's in the system plus Fairbrother.
I can't believe they were able to get the 13th OA pick for Romanov and 98th, not sure about Dach other then he's big. We crapped on MB/Timmins in the past for going for need, hope they didn't fall under the same trap, although it's beyond clear that we need more of a size/skill ratio at forward since outside of Tuch and maybe Biondi (he's not tall but heavy), we don't have much in the way of forwards that play a power game.
I can't believe they were able to get the 13th OA pick for Romanov and 98th, not sure about Dach other then he's big. We crapped on MB/Timmins in the past for going for need, hope they didn't fall under the same trap, although it's beyond clear that we need more of a size/skill ratio at forward since outside of Tuch and maybe Biondi (he's not tall but heavy), we don't have much in the way of forwards that play a power game.
I think Romanov has already reached his peak. He may maintain this peak for a while, but I doubt that he will quantitatively rise to another level. He is restricted by his size and style.
It's interesting to look at what players were available with this pick and compare in few years to Dach. I would've much rather had for example Kemell or Lekkerimäki than Dach, while keeping that 3rd rounder. But who knows how it will go.
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seeing Nazar go at 13th stings though, would have loved to get him. Got to hope for Goyette now at 26th or 33rd.
Have to hope Dach's wrist is OK. If it's anything like Drouin's injury it will be a disaster. I suppose they consider him to be a bigger, older player with similarities to Wright. I really don't see rushing the rebuild, but I suppose since they have no defense at all now there is not much risk.
It really does feel like they traded Kotkaniemi for a late 1st and now acquired another Kotkaniemi for 13th overall. Very similar project with massive question marks. At least Dach should be much cheaper I guess.
I read it as Habs desperate need to get bigger. Especially down the middle. You have to think of environment to properly assess a players' true trajectory.
Obviously the Habs want Dach to pair with Slaf, someone slightly older with experience but still very young.
Debrincat is a pipsqueek.. the habs already have one with CC, and Ottawa is going to be paying through their teeth to sign him long term.
Dach was looking really good before his injury last year, but played a full 70 games this year which bides well.
He is a great compliment down the middle to Suzuki.. and will be open to a long term deal at a reasonable cost bc hes been somewhat dissappinting points wise. A much lower risk, then picking up a 2nd Centre in Savoie or Nazar (who chicago used for the trade) who are too small and easily 3 years away from any nhl time of value.
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Think about it KK, Drouin, Galchenyuk…
All kidding aside Dach seem like he was the real deal what happen anyone know why didn’t take the next step?
We're still in tank mode for 1 more year, as our top 4 forwards are under 21. Our D are super young, and St. Carey is gonna last 10 games next year.
These forwards are going to learn on the job with ample playing time. Start of 23-24 season we are going to be a legit playoff team again.
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Wak Prescott the 60M/yr scam artist, here we gooo!
For people here who actually watched the guy play, how much of a gamble is this move on a scale of 1 to 10? Does he have a legit shot at becoming a top 6 center? Because that’s what we need him to become.
My take on this night is that HuGo are way bigger gamblers than I thought, hopefully it pays off because I really don’t know what to think right now…
My take on this night is that HuGo are way bigger gamblers than I thought, hopefully it pays off because I really don’t know what to think right now…
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The Romanov trade in isolation is pretty good, I'm surprised to get the 13th OV for him. He has skills but can't seem to put it together, never liked the player that much. The other pick we gave is inconsequential.
But I'm not sure about the Dach trade. Would have wait at least to see who was left at 13th before making that one.
But I'm not sure about the Dach trade. Would have wait at least to see who was left at 13th before making that one.
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Romanov and middle round picks for Dach is a fine gamble. IF Dach can become a 2C he is the perfect sized center to play behind Suzuki. Need to keep adding big bodies to the top 6. He definitely has more upside than KK. We'll see how it pans out, but I don't think the habs risked too much here.
Say it with me: suzuki / Nazar top 2 make Habs an easy opponent.
Hughes is creating a web - and while nazar might seem like a higher scoring threat.. Dach makes Suzuki even bigger and better by batting cleanup behind him.
Yikes!!!!!Fingers crossed Dach can have a breakout season under Ducharme, if both Slaf and Dach pan out and become big talented forwards then watch out.
Orrrrrr we could end up icing a bunch of McCaron's
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Not saying I love the trade but I'm not going to get too hung up or upset about giving up a 13th for at least 5 years.
Let's see how these kids do first, then we can go back in time and complain.
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Let's see how these kids do first, then we can go back in time and complain.
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I don't like that Debrincat went for the 7th and we have the 13th for...Kirby Dach? Goddamn. What the f***?
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Yes, I think Xhekaj and the LD gang (Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj, Norlinder, Strubble, Fairbrother) was a big part of this move.
But Arizona got 11 for 27 and two 2nds. Wouldn't have been better to use 26 to get 11 and then 11, instead of Romanov, for Dach?
I'm very leery of going for size over talent...
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It’s a handful, but the Canadiens got the player with the highest upside here, and the draft capital needed to acquire him wasn’t all that steep. Dach hasn’t shown nearly as much as many expected yet, but at 21 he’s still young and still has top-six upside. He’s not that yet and could very well bust, but one of his top comparables at the same age is Sean Couturier, an extremely promising proposition for the Canadiens. Dach has other less enticing comparables that bring pause but considering his pedigree he’s a smart bet.
For the other two teams involved – I have questions.
The Islanders essentially traded a first-round pick for Romanov, a player whose stock has plummeted after a horrific sophomore season. He’s shown less than nothing at the NHL level to be worth that price tag and it feels like Montreal is taking advantage of his previously high pedigree. While Romanov has some intriguing comparables of his own, none has the upside of Couturier and most became busts. I’m a skeptic, especially at that price tag.
The Blackhawks … I mean, woof. I could at least see why the team would trade Alex DeBrincat – they needed to get bad enough to tank, the qualifying offer, being two years away from free agency, and his age. Dach? How do you not keep a 21-year-old center with size drafted just three years ago? For 13th? It’s bad asset management, an all too common trend for the Blackhawks on draft day these days.
Canadiens: A
Islanders: C
Blackhawks: D
It’s a handful, but the Canadiens got the player with the highest upside here, and the draft capital needed to acquire him wasn’t all that steep. Dach hasn’t shown nearly as much as many expected yet, but at 21 he’s still young and still has top-six upside. He’s not that yet and could very well bust, but one of his top comparables at the same age is Sean Couturier, an extremely promising proposition for the Canadiens. Dach has other less enticing comparables that bring pause but considering his pedigree he’s a smart bet.
For the other two teams involved – I have questions.
The Islanders essentially traded a first-round pick for Romanov, a player whose stock has plummeted after a horrific sophomore season. He’s shown less than nothing at the NHL level to be worth that price tag and it feels like Montreal is taking advantage of his previously high pedigree. While Romanov has some intriguing comparables of his own, none has the upside of Couturier and most became busts. I’m a skeptic, especially at that price tag.
The Blackhawks … I mean, woof. I could at least see why the team would trade Alex DeBrincat – they needed to get bad enough to tank, the qualifying offer, being two years away from free agency, and his age. Dach? How do you not keep a 21-year-old center with size drafted just three years ago? For 13th? It’s bad asset management, an all too common trend for the Blackhawks on draft day these days.
Canadiens: A
Islanders: C
Blackhawks: D
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